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  Eating beef that has not been slaughtered properly until after it has been killed
Posted by: SisterJennifer - 12-27-2008, 07:39 PM - Forum: Islam - Replies (2)


The United States and Brittan have similar methods of slaughter


Question:



I am presently residing in Canada. I have learned that in this country, in the province that I live in (ontario), the animals for beef etc..are killed then slaughtered.


So this will defeat the purpose of any muslim eating this meat. Since, the animal is dead before it is slaughtered. Some say we can eat the meat in Canada becaue these pple here are ahlul kitab. So, my question is when invited and eating at a muslim family's home who believes that they can go to the local supper market and buy the meat and eat from it. And insist the meat is halal to be eaten....what must I do? Should I just eat the meat even though I know they buy from the local supper market? I have tried telling them in a nice manner, directly, but they insist that the meat is halal. I am a new muslim and they have been very supportive in my hard times.


I do not want to just snob them or not visit them due to my fears. What is my obligation and can I eat the meat??? Please help, most lecturers and scholars that come here, keep insisting that the question has been answered and never answer it for us new muslim. And I have done my research as far as what I can do and not do and I am really not sure on this


Answer:


Praise be to Allaah.


Beef that has been killed before being slaughtered (i.e., before its neck is cut in the halaal method) is considered to be maytah (“dead meat”) and it is not permissible to eat it, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):


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“He has forbidden you only Al Maitah (meat of a dead animal), blood, the flesh of swine, and any animal which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols or on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, and not transgressing, then, Allaah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful


[al-Nahl 16:115]


With regard to what you mention about some Muslims eat meating that has been killed before being slaughtered, it may be that they are sure that the meat that they are eating has been slaughtered according to sharee’ah, or it may be that they are ignorant of the rulings on this kind of meat, or they may have asked (scholars) who told them that this meat is halaal.


Whatever the case, you have to avoid eating these meats, and if anyone asks you to eat it, you should refuse to do so, and explain why you are refusing – so that they will follow that or at least excuse you for not eating it.


With regard to what you mention about some people saying that it is permissible to eat this meat because they are the People of the Book, the answer is that it is permissible to eat meat that has been slaughtered by the People of the Book, but this meat that you describe is not meat that has been slaughtered by them; rather it is dead meat, and it is not permissible to eat dead meat even if it was killed by a Muslim.


Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:


“Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):


<b>‘Made lawful to you this day are At Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them’</b>


[al-Maa’idah 5:5]


This aayah makes it clear to us that the food of the People of the Book – i.e., the Jews and Christians – is permissible for us, but if we know that they have slaughtered a permissible animal in a manner other than that prescribed in sharee’ah, such as killing it by strangulation, electric shock, hitting it on the head, etc., then it is meat “which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow” (cf. al-Maa'idah 5:3), so it is haraam, just as meat which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow by a Muslim is also forbidden to us. But if we do not know what is the case, then the meat slaughtered by them is halaal for us, in accordance with the aayah.”


(Majallat al-Jaami’ah al-Islamiyyah, no. 3, p. 156


In conclusion, we hope that you will spread the fatwa of Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz to the Muslims whom you know, as much as you can. And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A


Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

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  Mecca via Wall St Events
Posted by: Muslimah - 12-24-2008, 06:29 PM - Forum: Islamic Events - Replies (2)


Mecca via Wall St Events - Inspirational Nationwide events including celebrity speeches, top nasheeds, comedy performances and a 5 course dinner


Limited seats available! Click here & purchase your tickets now


Upon purchase of your ticket you will automatically be entered into our competition


with a chance to win tickets for Umrah!


With economic uncertainity and the breakdown of the social unit, do we really want to lead a financially and spiritually bankrupt life ?


You are invited to attend thought provoking events with speeches by celebrity speakers from a fusion of corporate, public sector and religious institutions as well as performances by top Nasheed artists and comedians.


Speakers and Performers


Shaykh Faizul Aqtab Siddiqi


Founder and Chairman of Hijaz Group


James Caan*


CEO, Hamilton Bradshaw, Dragons Den


Boris Johnson*


Mayor of London


Amir Khan*


Professional Boxer


Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad


Professor, Cambridge University


SHAAM


UK's No.1 Nasheed Group Sir Paul Scott-Lee


Chief Constable, West Midlands Police


Lord Philip Hunt


Minister of State for Department of Health


Rageh Omaar*


Journalist, Al Jazeera


Imran Khan*


Former Cricketer and Politician


Al Hajj Ahmad Thomson


Barrister and Head of Wynne Chambers


Allah Made Me Funny


US's Top Muslim Comedian Mohammed Amer


* TBC


Nationwide Events at a location near you


Hilton Hotel, Bradford


Saturday 6-10pm, 10th January 2009


Stockport Town Hall, Stockport


Sunday 4-8pm, 11th January 2009


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Hammersmith Town Hall,


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Sunday 4-8pm, 18th January 2009 Holiday Inn, Birmingham


Sunday 4-8pm, 25th January 2009


Whipsnade Zoo, Bedfordshire


Saturday 6-10pm, 31st January 2009


Walthamstow Assembly Hall, London


Sunday 4-8pm, 1st February 2009


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Sunday 4-8pm, 8th February 2009


We have many more speakers and performers.


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  The Character of the People of the Qur’aan
Posted by: SisterJennifer - 12-19-2008, 02:00 PM - Forum: "And remind for reminding benefit the believers - No Replies


<b>The Character of the People of the Qur’aan</b>


“…It befits him to employ…taqwa of Allaah secretly and openly, by exercising caution (wara`) with regards to the sources of his food, drink, dress and earnings. He is perceptive about his time and the corruptions of its people, that he may beware of them regarding his religion. He concentrates on his own situation, having the aspiration to reform whatever is corrupt in his affairs, guarding his tongue and choosing his words. If he speaks, he speaks with knowledge when he sees speech to be correct. If he remains silent, he remains silent with knowledge when he sees silence to be correct. He rarely delves into that which does not concern him. He fears from his tongue things more severe than he fears from his enemy. He imprisons his tongue the way he imprisons his enemy, so that he may be safe from its evil and bad consequences…He is accomodating in countenance, pure in speech. He does not allow himself to be praised for qualities he has, how then for qualities he does not have? He is wary of his self, that it should overcome him for what he desires, of the things that will anger his Master. He does not backbite anyone. He does not look down upon anyone. He does not abuse anyone. he is not happy at the afflictions of others. He neither transgresses upon anyone, nor envies him.


…He has made the Qur`aan, Sunnah and Fiqh his guide to every good and beautiful quality, guarding all his limbs from what has been forbidden. If he walks, he walks with knowledge. If he sits, he sits with knowledge. He strives hard so that people may be safe from his tongue and hand. He does not behave ignorantly: if someone behaves ignorantly towards him, he is forbearing. He does not oppress: if he is oppressed, he forgives. He does not transgress: if he is transgressed upon, he has patience. He restrains his fury to please his Lord and enrage his enemy. He is humble in himself: when the truth is presented to him, he accepts it, whether from one younger or older. He seeks status from Allaah, not from the creatures. He despises arrogance, fearing for his self from it…If the people wear fine luxury, he wears of the halaal that which conceals his private parts. If his circumstances eases, he eases. If they tighten, he tightens. He is content with little, so it suffices him…He follows the obligations of the Qur`aan and the Sunnah: he eats food with knowledge, he drinks with knowledge, he dresses with knowledge, he sleeps with knowledge, he has union with his wife with knowledge, he accompanies his brothers with knowledge, visiting them with knowledge, seeking permission to enter upon them with knowledge, and greeting them with knowledge; he treats his neighbor with knowledge.


He imposes strictly upon himself the honouring of his parents…He prays for their longevity and is thankful for them in old age….He maintains family relations and despises breaking them. If someone breaks off relations with him, he does not break off relations with them. If someone disobeys Allaah regarding him, he obeys Allaah regarding him. He accompanies the believers with knowledge, and sits with them with knowledge. He benefits those who accompany him, being an excellent companion for those whom he sits with. If he teaches another, he is gentle with him. He is not harsh with the one who makes a mistake and does not embarrass him. He is gentle in all his matters, extremely patient in teaching goodness. The learner finds comfort in him, and the one sitting with him is joyous at his company. Sitting with him brings goodness. He educates his companions with the ettiquettes of the Qur`aan and the Sunnah.


If he is afflicted with a difficulty, the Qur`aan and the Sunnah are two educators for him. He grieves with knowledge. He cries with knowledge. He is patient with knowledge. He purifies himself with knowledge. He prays with knowledge. He gives zakaat with knowledge. He gives charity with knowledge. He fasts with knowledge. He performs Pilgrimage with knowledge. He wages war with knowledge. He earns with knowledge and spends with knowledge. He eases in matters with knowledge and tightens in them with knowledge. The Qur`aan and the Sunnah have taught him his manners.


He looks through the pages of the Qur`aan in order to teach himself manners and is not pleased for himself to fulfill with ignorance the obligations imposed by Allaah. He has made knowledge and understanding his guide to every goodness…When he studies the Qur`aan his aspiration isnot: when will I complete the surah? His aspiration is: when will I be enriched by Allaah, so that I am in no need of other than Him? When will I be of the pious? When will I be of those who excel? When will I be of those who have total trust? When will I be of those who humble themselves? When will I be of the patient ones? When will I be of the truthful ones? When will I be of the fearful ones? When will I be of the hopeful ones? When will I have non-attachment to the world? When will I have yearning for the Hereafter? When will I repent from sins? When will I recognise the widespread favours? When will I be grateful for them? When will I understand from Allaah His address? When will I understand what I recite? When will I overcome my self regarding its base desires? When will I strive in Allaah with a true jihaad? When will I guard my tongue? When will I lower my gaze? When will I guard my chastity? When will I be ashamed before Allaah with true shame? When will I be preoccupied with my faults? When will I reform the corruptions in my life? When will I call myself to account? When will I take provision for the day of my Ressurection? When will I be pleased with Allaah? When will I have trust in Allaah? When will I be admonished by the warnings of the Qur`aan? When will I be preoccupied with His rememberance away from rememberance of other than Him? When will I love what He loves? When will I hate what He hates? When will I be sincere to Allaah? When will I purify my deeds for Him? When will I reduce my vain hopes? When will I prepare myself for the day of my death, when my remaining term shall have vanished? When will I build the life of my grave? When will I reflect upon the Standing and its severity? When will I reflect upon my solitude with my Lord? When will I reflect upon the Return? When will I beware that which my Lord has warned me of?


…He, the Mighty and Majestic said, <b>‘O you who have believed! Fear Allaah and let each soul see what it has sent forth for tomorrow; and fear Allaah: truly, Allaah is aware of what you do.’ [59:18]“</b>


The Character of the Bearers and People of the Qur`aan | Imaam abu Bakr Muhammad ibn al-Husayn al-Aajurree (360AH)

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  Bush on his farewell visit to Iraq
Posted by: Muslimah - 12-15-2008, 07:43 AM - Forum: General - Replies (14)


Bismillah


http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/12/14/61992.html


BAGHDAD (Agencies)


An Iraqi reporter called U.S. President George W. Bush a "dog" and threw his shoes at him on Sunday, sullying a farewell visit to Baghdad meant to mark greater security in Iraq after years of bloodshed.


Just weeks before he bequeaths the unpopular Iraq war to President-elect Barack Obama, Bush sought to underline improved security by landing in daylight and venturing out beyond the city's heavily fortified international Green Zone.


In a sign of lingering anger over the war that will define Bush’s foreign policy legacy, an Iraqi journalist shouted in Arabic "this is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog," and hurled his shoes at Bush during a news conference with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.


The Iraqi journalist hurled his shoes at Bush during a news conference


Throwing shoes at somebody is a supreme insult in the Middle East. One of the shoes sailed over the president's head and slammed into the wall behind him and he had to duck to miss the other one. Maliki tried to block the second shoe with his arm

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  Tayyibun Winter Seminar 2008
Posted by: Muslimah - 12-11-2008, 09:49 AM - Forum: Islamic Events - No Replies


Tayyibun Winter Seminar 2008


Holding on to Hot Coal . . .


SPEAKERS INCLUDE:


Dr Khalid Khan (Islam Q & A)


Ustadh Abu Hasnayn Murtaza Khan (Islamabad)


Ustadh Abdul 'Aleem Alomgir Ali (Egypt)


Ustadh Abdullah Zain al Abedin (Madinah Islamic University K.S.A)


TOPICS INCLUDE:


Holding on to Hot Coal


Never Despair in the Mercy of Allah


He who Imitates a People


Defending the Honour of the Messenger


DATE: Sunday 28th December 2008


TIME: 2pm - 7pm


VENUE: Tayyibun Tarbiyyah Centre, 25 Hessel Street (Off Commercial Road), London E1 2LR


*Free admission (no pre booking required), All brothers and sisters welcome, Full segregation maintained.


www.tayyibun.com

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  Seeking advice from the arabs
Posted by: naseeha - 12-08-2008, 08:10 PM - Forum: General - Replies (11)


Hey ppl..


recently I have been playing around with the Idea of moving to the arabs to work... problem is... I just haven't decided where...


basically where ever I move should be english speaking (e.g. dubai) so that I can actually work there...


and for the accountants on the board... the country should follow the International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS)..


I'm guessing Madinah and anywhere else in Saudi is out of the question...


any advice ppl

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  Eid Mubarak
Posted by: Muslimah - 12-07-2008, 08:47 PM - Forum: Haj, Umrah, Eid ul Adha - Replies (6)


Bismillah


As salam alykom


Eid Mubarak to all of you brothers and sisters and Insh aAllah next year you will be in A`rafat.

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  Pray For Dr Al-AL Timimi Ameen..
Posted by: Muslimah - 12-05-2008, 07:51 PM - Forum: Current Affairs - No Replies



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Dr Ali- AL-Tamimi


Is an Islamic Teacher, and was convicted in 2005 of inciting terrorists in


connection with the Virginia Jihad Network, and although there is clear


evidence that Dr Ali Al-Tamimi , was against terrorism, he received


Life plus 70 years in a US Court.


Dr Tamimi was noted for being against terrorism, both in public and private,.


he has been quoted as saying, Franky, certain acts of violence perpetrated


against non combatant unbelievers over the last 10-15 years clearly


contradict Islam, it is exceedingly important that Muslims are first and foremost


to condemn and reject such actions.


............ ......... ......... ......... ......... .. ..


This year has been a test for everyone in Ali's case,by the Grace of Allah


Ali has been returned to the local Alexandra Jail but it was not in the manner


in which anyone expected, in fact there is a god chance Ali's conviction will


be quashed, but Ali, needs your help.


After Ali's monumental loss in court and abandonment by his previous


support group, a few people offered to help.,


Perhaps they offered to help when they realised that Ali had worn the same


prison outfit for the last 6months,


or the fact he had to wash the same, prison jumpsuit in the toilet;;


i dont know how he managed to pray afterwards, i do not


of a Figh chapter on praying after washing your your clothes down the toilet


do you?.


Allah did bless him when another prisoner secretly lent Ali another uniform


while he washed his down the toilet.


Ali has been transfered 5 times in the last 6 months so that his new attorney


can not speak to him, or then again perhaps it was because each prison


illegaly read his Solicitors correspondence, so they would know the strategy


of the appeal,


Experts in constitutional law have started to come to Ali's defense, although


Ali's case is confusing to some, it is clear to every one, that to defend Ali


is to defend free speech.defending Ali means putting to and end the oppresion


of Muslims ,specifically Americans.


How anyone can be sentenced to life plus 70 years for making a few remarks


at an after dinner speech is totaly unacceptable.

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  Two New Bibles Preach A Hip, Eco-Friendly Gospel
Posted by: SisterJennifer - 12-05-2008, 07:39 AM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (4)


Two new Bibles targeting a young, hip — even secular — audience are hitting bookstores. One is a slick, illustrated version of the New Testament; the other is an environmentally friendly edition that takes advantage of the popularity of the green movement.


A Peek Inside 'The Book'


First, the flashy coffee-table Bible: Dag Soderberg, a secular Swedish advertising executive wondered why so few people actually read the "good book," so he set out to make it more appealing, with glossy photos and magazine packaging. The resulting publication is an illustrated version of the New Testament called Bible Illuminated: The Book.


"A coffee-table magazine is read by the many everyday, everywhere," explains Soderberg. "This is a way to make [the Bible] as available as any other magazine."


If you didn't know this was a Bible you might think The Book was a "goth" magazine, or perhaps something you'd find in a doctor's office. The front cover is a close-up of a translucent green eye, caked with black makeup and staring eerily from the page. On the back is a photo of a faceless figure wearing a black hooded sweat shirt.


Inside, photos of celebrities like Angelina Jolie, Bono and John Lennon are interspersed with pictures of heroic figures like Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa and Martin Luther King, Jr. A veil-covered African woman holding a young child illustrates the story of Mary and Jesus. Images taken from the news — both jarring and poignant — radiate a message of social justice.


United Methodist minister and Hacking Christianity blogger Jeremy Smith says The Book is meant to provoke discussion.


Smith points to the series of images that run in conjunction with a quote from the Book of Revelation. The quote reads: "The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast ..." The photographs show post-Katrina New Orleans, a four-page spread of an animal slaughterhouse in Nigeria and, finally, a picture of a man pumping gas.


"They are interpreting this with some very political and edgy and — honestly — some disorienting imagery," says Smith.


Though skeptical when he first heard about the book, Smith says he found many of the images compelling. But equally compelling, he says, is another new Bible that takes a completely different approach.


The Green Book


With its beige cloth cover, embossed with a picture of a green tree, The Green Bible is the embodiment of simplicity. Inside, passages that refer to the environment are highlighted in green.


Smith says the book catches people's attention: "I took it to a Bible study and set it down on the table and people looked at it and said, 'What is that?'"


Mark Tauber, the senior vice president at HarperOne, which publishes The Green Bible, says that the book is important in both form and function.


"The actual form of the Bible, we think, is a green product," he says, noting that the entire book is made of recyclable materials. "Then in function, it performs the function of helping people be better stewards, if you will."


Smith points out that while The Book seeks to begin a conversation, The Green Bible wants "to add to the conversation."


"Did Jesus say anything about recycling? Did God care what we do with the earth? These are the existing conversations that are emerging that I think The Green Bible contributes to," says Smith.


The book is drawing attention in secular venues, including the Earth First Web site, where bloggers offered unusual praise, which Tauber paraphrases as: "Those crazy wacko religious people ... if you have to believe there is something beyond this life, this is probably a good Bible for you to read."


"It was this backhanded compliment from people not known for being so friendly to people of faith," says Tauber.


Both The Green Bible and The Book are aimed at the young. But Soderberg says that when the illuminated Bible was published in Sweden, it appealed beyond its target audience. In fact, he says, the publisher expanded the market by almost 50 percent in a year.


And Soderberg says there is no question that a new conversation about the Bible is under way in a lot of unexpected places.


He says he's seen people in offices that are very strict talking about the Bible, "because everybody flips through this magazine. ... That's cool."


And an illuminated version of the Old Testament is in the works. Soderberg says it will be published in the U.S. in the spring of 2009 — just in time for Easter.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=97537385

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  Ten Days of Dhul Hijja need urgent informaton
Posted by: Infoseeker - 12-02-2008, 03:53 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)


Ten Days of Dhul Hijja need urgent information with regards to when it starts in UK and when is Eid in UK


can someone please assist me


I am going to fast tomorrow that would be Wednesday

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