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“The true Furqan”
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10-29-2008, 01:13 PM
<b>Reepicheep wrote (in post #20 above): I believe that every single Christian who has ever lived, is currently living, and that will be born in the future is a liar, a thief, and a murderer and deserves <i>eternal damnation from God</i>.</b> <b>wel_mel_2 wrote: Do you know what is the punishment of LIARS in your Bible????</b> Yes. As I earlier stated, anyone who lies (or commits any other sin) deserves eternal damnation in hell. 
10-30-2008, 01:34 AM
Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum Quote:<b>Reepicheep wrote (in post #20 above): I believe that every single Christian who has ever lived, is currently living, and that will be born in the future is a liar, a thief, and a murderer and deserves <i>eternal damnation from God</i>.</b> It seems that you are <b>OK</b> with being destined to Hell as long as you will remain a Christian!! Or you are going to be a Muslim insh a Allah in order to avoid lying, theft and murdering… or you are hiding something else in your heart that you don’t want to share with us!!! But anyway, discussion was over the moment you have declared that <b>ALL CHRISTIANS</b> are destined to Hell… Salam Wael.
10-30-2008, 01:49 PM
<b>wel_mel_2 wrote: ...are you going to be a Muslim insh a Allah in order to avoid lying, theft and murdering </b> What glorious utopias the world's Islamic countries must be, if muslims never lie, steal, or murder. <i><b>"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Matthew 7:3-5</b></i>
10-30-2008, 02:46 PM
Quote:<b>Reepicheep wrote (in post #20 above): I believe that every single Christian who has ever lived, is currently living, and that will be born in the future is a liar, a thief, and a murderer and deserves <i>eternal damnation from God</i>.</b> Hi Reepi I am confused,according to your belief who deserve to go to Paradise ?or there is no Paradise ,only hell
10-30-2008, 03:31 PM
<b>Rock wrote: I am confused,according to your belief who deserve to go to Paradise?</b> The important word in your sentence is "deserve". Christians believe that sinners deserve to go to hell. Since all Christians are sinners, all Christians deserve hell. There is, however, hope for muslims. The bible also states that anyone who follows "The Law" perfectly deserves to go to heaven. So, Christians believe that those muslims who have lead perfect, sinless lives get to go into heaven. <b>Rock wrote: Is there is no Paradise ,only hell</b> Christians believe in the existance of both heaven and hell.
10-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Quote:<b>Rock wrote: I am confused,according to your belief who deserve Hi Reepicheep If I coorectly understand,you mean that according to Christians belief Being Christian means no chance to go into heaven Being un Christian means there is a chance to go into heaven. So why you choose to be a Christian? and what "being Christian" means for you?
10-30-2008, 05:21 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-30-2008, 05:23 PM by reepicheep.)
<b>Rock wrote:</b> According to Christians belief Being Christian means no chance to go into heaven Being un Christian means there is a chance to go into heaven. Not exactly. It is more accurate to say: <i><b>Christians believe that sinners have earned their way into hell, and non-sinners have earned their way into heaven.</b></i> Christians admit they are sinners, and have therefore earned their way into hell. Whether a non-Christian gets into heaven or hell depends upon whether the non-Christian has sinned (hell) or not sinned (heaven). In other words, the bible teaches that any muslim who has never committed a sin gets to go into heaven.
10-30-2008, 05:43 PM
<b>SisterJennifer wrote: What about repentance (tawba)?</b> Let's say I break into my neighbour's house and steal from him. Since I am subject to Canadian law, I would be punished as described in Canada's criminal code. At some point, I would find myself standing before a judge who would ask me, "Do you have anything to say before I pass judgement?" I suppose I could say, "I realize that I was wrong to steal from my neighbour, and I sincerely repent of my crime. Therefore, I think that I should be set free and not punished." How do you think the judge would react? 
10-30-2008, 05:46 PM
I am asking you about Allah the most Merciful, not about a Canadian judge. Dont beat around the bush.
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