“The true Furqan” - Printable Version

“The true Furqan” - Printable Version

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“The true Furqan” - wel_mel_2 - 10-23-2008

Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum...

This is how they work to convert Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh, by fooling them, they know that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis could read Arabic very well, but can’t understand even a word, and so they’ve come up with a forged ‘qur’an’ named “The True Furqan” and giving it away to Muslims for free, they’ve produced some Biblical materials in a Qur’anic form to allow the Muslims in those countries to read their Bible hoping that one day “the holy ghost” will come upon them and convert them to Christianity!!!!!

But Alhamdulelah, they could not meet the challenge of Allah: “If you are in doubt about it, bring a book like it”

Since they could not bring a book like the TRUE REVEALED QUR’AN, and will never be able to do so, then they’ve stolen the titles of the Qur’anic chapters, and the formula in which every chapter of the Qur’an begin with “Bismillahi-Rahmani-Rahim” and added that into their ‘Rubbish’ book called “the true Furqan”.

I was honored to meet the son of late Sheikh Ahmed Deedat who brought with him those books when he visited Hong Kong last week to show me how Christian missionaries are trying to fool the Muslims.

But they plan, and Allah too plan, but Allah is the best of planners… Please, have a look at their chapter named AL FATIHA, you will just laugh to death.

Images attached…

My wife was shocked as to why Christians should propagate their faith by lying to people????? 

Salam

Wael.

“The true Furqan” - SisterJennifer - 10-23-2008

Obviously they are not confident in their own religion or they would not need to resort to such tactics. I dont expect it would be very successful.

“The true Furqan” - reepicheep - 10-23-2008

wel_mel_2 wrote: they know that Pakistanis and Bangladeshis could read Arabic very well, but can’t understand even a word 

That's an interesting claim for you to make.

Around 20% of the world's muslims (around 280 million or so) live in Pakistan and Bangladesh. These muslims can read Arabic, but not understand Arabic??? I assume, then, that these muslims have absolutely no idea what is written in the koran? How, then, can they call themselves muslim?

“The true Furqan” - SisterJennifer - 10-23-2008

Quote:These muslims can read Arabic, but not understand Arabic??? I assume, then, that these muslims have absolutely no idea what is written in the koran? How, then, can they call themselves muslim?

They can understand Quran by reading translation in their language with tafseer, It is available in our languages, you dont need to be proficient in Arabic in order to call yourself Muslim.

“The true Furqan” - SisterJennifer - 10-23-2008

Actually, this is another miracle of Quran, that it can be memorized by people who are not native Arabic speakers. I have one Pakistani friend who's children had memorized the whole Quran by the ages of 7 and 9 masha Allah.

Try to memorize a page of any novel in a foreign language and see how long it takes you, now imagine an entire book! Yet many hafiz of Quran are non-Arabic speakers.

“The true Furqan” - radiyah - 10-23-2008

Bismillah

That book was spread here in kuwait also, trying to fool people, what do these missioners think we are stupid or what, to leave the true Holy Quran and go for such crab, when they failed in the arab world, they said lets move to non Arabs who do not understand Arabic, AlhamdulilAllah, it is The Word of Allah that will stay on top of all their plots.

I watched a tv series on Iqraa TV, there is a small village in Russia or somewhere there near it i dont remember, there was a house in the middle of the forest surrounded with a vast area of gardens, their was a sheikh, who teaches the children The Holy Quran, he has among his students children who are from 4 up to 16 years of age who memorize parts or the the whole Quran, some of tehm would memorise it all at 6 or 7 some 8, and they understand it as well, but when u talk to them ordinary Arabic then they will not understand, why? because when the sheikh teaches them he teaches the ayahs from every aspect:

<ol type="1">[*]Tajweed( how to read The Quran the correct way)
[*]Tafseer( translation of Quran)
[*]Grammar
[*]Eloquence
[*]and much more
</ol>
Then the next step he lets those who reach the age of 14 or 15 or mastered the Holy Quran to teach those who are fresh and young, it is like a camp masha'Allah they were so wonderful :wub: , and some of them were chosen for the Dubai International Holy Quran contest.

AlhamdulilAllah for Islam, AlhamduliAllah for Eman, AlhamduliAllah for Preserving The Holy Quran.

Below is the site for the Dubai contest

http://www.quran.gov.ae/en/Pages/default.aspx

Salam

“The true Furqan” - wel_mel_2 - 10-24-2008

Bismillah: Assalamo ALikum...

My point was to expose the 'ways' of those missionaries whose basic mission is to lie in order to spread their faith... and that is of course not allowed in Islam, you can't decorate your faith in order to win converts, that is we call it LIE, and we can't steal materials from other religious scriptures and attribute them to our faith, in literature language we call that plagiarism...

Of course their attempt (as usual) was failed because even though Pakistanis does not understand the Arabic language, but they do recognize the language of the Qur'an, even a Japanese Muslim will immediately notice the horrible sounds of their production... Alhamdulelah.

Salam

Wael.

“The true Furqan” - Muslimah - 10-24-2008

Bismillah

Wael, you must have read:

"And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say:
"This is from Allah," but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while they know it." (Quran 78). Mind you that this Ayah is a part of a set starting with describing what some of the people of scriptures are up to or do as in:

"Among the People of the Scripture is he who, if entrusted with a Cantar (a great amount of wealth, etc.), will readily pay it back; and among them there is he who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stand demanding, because they say: "There is no blame on us to betray and take the properties of the illiterates (Arabs)." But they tell a lie against Allah while they know it." (Quran 3: 75)

Wael, what is really important for all of us to be aware of is that without them realising, they are turning themselves into tools to prove more and more how Quran is from Allah. The description of the Ayah fits this situation. Sobhan Allah wa Allah u Akbar.

“The true Furqan” - reepicheep - 10-24-2008

If I understand you correctly, Wel_Mel_2, you now admit you were mistaken when you claimed that:

(1) muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh can read (i.e., speak) Arabic fluently, and

(2) muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh don't know the meaning of even one word in Arabic (for example, the muslims who live in Pakistan and Bangladesh have no idea that the Arabic word for "God" is "Allah")

I'm glad that you have retracted your claims, since frankly I think they are ridiculous.

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Moving on to your next claim:

wel_mel_2 wrote: My point was to expose the ways of those missionaries whose basic mission is to lie in order to spread their faith


I don't understand. What lie specifically are you referring to???

“The true Furqan” - radiyah - 10-24-2008

Bismillah

Yes Wael jazak Allah khayr for this, and let everyone know that The Holy Quran is preserved in our hearts and minds and blood, and no matter what they try to do they will not be able to change the word of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala.

And my response was to prove how non Arabic speakers can memorize The Holy Quran without understanding Arabic. May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala accept our deeds and forgive our sins ameeen.

Quote:Wael, what is really important for all of us to be aware of is that without them realizing, they are turning themselves into tools to prove more and more how Quran is from Allah. The description of the Ayah fits this situation. Sobhan Allah WA Allah o Akbar.

:) Alhamdulilah o Allah u Akbar :)

Salam