Are American and European muslims more liberal?

[Khairan]

Instead of trying to prove an opinion that you already have with Qur'an and hadith, please open your mind to what Allah actually wants you to do.

Well, these aren't opinions I "already had," they are ones I developed from my reading. You are of course correct that I do not have nearly the knowledge base that I could regarding matters Islamic, but you are very mistaken if you think that all the matters on which we disagree are due to my own ignorance (and no worries - I don't take offence at your words at all; I appreciate the dialogue). Many of my ideas come from commentators, scholars, and teachers who ARE more well-read than I am, and who are very fluent in Arabic. So it is simply untrue that knowing Arabic and having enough knowledge will lead every Muslim to agree on what the correct version of Islam is.

You do know that under a verse in the Qur'an that drinking is halal as long as one does not come to prayer drunk?

I do not accept the idea that the Qur'an abrogates itself -- I would only do so if the Qur'an itself says that earlier verses are superceded by later verses, which I have never seen. If there is such a verse, do direct me to it.Actually, I'm interested to know where in the Qur'an it is written that drinking is permissible. Can you cite a specific verse? Thanks.

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