10-31-2008, 02:46 PM
<b>wel_mel_2 wrote: you have come to enlighten me that actually ALL CHRISTIANS are liars (of course that includes St Paul, Peter...)</b>
Yes, that is correct. In fact, according to the bible, at one point in his life Paul helped hunt down and kill Christians.
<b>wel_mel_w wrote: That was straight enough to send St Paul, Peter and all the disciples of Jesus to eternal damnation
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Yes, all Christians (including Paul and Peter) deserve eternal damnation.
<b>Wel_Mel_2 wrote:... now I wonder if you keep any statistics about the above claim that 100% of Christians are liars, do you have evidence that every Christian ever lived, currently living and that will be born is a liar, a thief and a murderer????</b>
There is no need for me to keep any statistics. That is what Jesus says in the bible, and since I believe that Jesus is God, I'm not about to disagree with him.
<b>Wel_mel_2 wrote: Have you ever for instance murdered somebody before to make such a statement? </b>
Using the definition of "murder" as given by Jesus, yes I have committed murder. Many times, in fact.
<b>Wel_mel_2 wrote: Or does the words “EVERY CHRISTIAN” in your language means something else???</b>
It appears to mean exactly what you think it means.
<b>Wel_mel_2 wrote: We don’t claim to be sinless, but I can guarantee you that all Muslims on this board, are not thieves, and not murderers, they might have lied in the past, but at least now they are NOT</b>
Are there any muslims here on this forum who claim to have never told a lie, during the entire time they were muslims?
<b>wel_mel_2 wrote: May Allah open your heart to Islam and save you from eternal damnation for being a Christian.
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You are contradicting the koran. According to the koran, Christians, Jews and Sabians go to heaven, not hell. That is what Shiite Twelver muslims tell me, anyway. And at least some Sunni muslims believe this, too.