Let get into the beliefs of the Christians

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In the Name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Spirit - One God - now & forever. Amen.


May the peace of Christ be with you!


it is not a mystery, it contradicts the sound mind, its very simple actually. water is not water anymore if mixed with other substances, a perfect example is a Pepsie can...how come u dont call it water anymore? so the sound mind tells u it has changed to something else...if GOD is changing then he is not a GOD, cz his absolute uniqness is gone.



The water analogy relates to the Most Holy Trinity, not the Incarnation.


But since you brought it up, Pepsi is probably a poor example because it contains several ingredients. Saltwater is a little bit better.


i think i explained that above....



We're just going around in circles aren't we? Hehe!


incarnation....attributed to GOD??? u love giving GOD human qualities dont you? ur faith calims him being a man, did he have to go to the bathroom? did he vomit? did he get sick? did he bleed? did he get weak? did he get tired? these are all human qualities... GOD is above such qualtities from which he himself has created.



The Incarnation is not an attribute.


Jesus - the Son of God Incarnate - possess human qualities in their fullest. He became Man in every sense of the word. Jesus Christ is the very definition of what "man" is. The Word made Flesh assumed all things human (except the capacity to sin of course). Please remember, He never ceased being divine though.


The human behaviour you mentioned isn't evil. Jesus Christ dignified humanity. In no way did He degrade it.


Divine and human? thats a contraiction in itself, what is divine is divine, and what is human is human.... If God wanted to send a DOG he could have, no one can stop him, but GOD does what befits his status, being the Creator of all things....



Which is exactly why we believe that the Jesus Christ - teh Son of God Incarnate - is 100% human & 100% divine. It's not a 50/50 proposition. Therefore, it's not a contradiction.


What exactly is "man" to you? Whenever we discuss the Incarnation, you make me feel dirty simply because I'm a human being. You need to remember that Christians believe that homo sapiens are made in the image & likeness of God. There's no way you can ever begin to understand the Incarnation if you don't know basic metaphysics.


according to this myth..all the prophets of GOD failed, and he had to come down and do the job himself..."if u gotta do something, u gotta do it urself" this is an insult to the perfection of GOD.



Subhan Allah. You've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly why the Son of God became Man. The 5 men Yahweh established a covenant with in the O/T (Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses & David) were supposed to be the mediators between God & man but each one failed miserably by violating their covenants. God cannot break a covenant, therefore, He established the New & Everlasting Covenant with Himself.


How on earth is this an insult to the Perfection of God?


Adam is a very different discussion than this one... but the similtude of Adam is not to be compared with God, Adam is a creation, and GOD is the creator, they dont collide with equal forces...



Hang on, I'm confused. What do you mean? Indeed, God's the Creator & Adam's a creature. What did I say that triggered your above statement?


i will start a thread on it...patience my dear



:lol: bi amrak!


wala yhimik ya bint.... mnirja3 shi nhar!!



Iza Allah bi rid ya khaye.


i live in Miami, FL now... mom is Lebanese and FAther was born in Leb, originally from a palastinian origin.



I am a Lebanese at the very core, i eat their food, speak their language, understand their minds, joke the jokes they do (no one can get them other than them for some reason)


Lebanese are good people, but their pride is a little too much sometimes


Miami? Salemli ala Shaquille :thumb:


Being Lebanese is both a blessing & a curse. I wouldn't want to belong to any other culture (pride ;)), but there's not a more dangerous place to live in than Lebanon. Dianyak ya watani.


One more question... how old are you? Did you live through the devestating war?


What Arab country do you originate from?



Both my parents are Phoenicians :D :lol: :P ;)


no at all im not here to make an enemy of you, we Muslims show understanding to one another and it is commanded to us to convey peace among the rest of the religions. Now as for Muslims telling you that they should not befried the unbelievers, they DONT know the reason of revelation of this verse, each verse in the Quran has a reason of revlation, a timeline, and a hitorical event that the prophet went thru and experienced, thus the verse.



one cannot pick verses from the Quran and simply throw it as he wishes on the rest to fit his own desires, i will get u the explanation of that verse soon.


That puts a smile on my face. The reason why I love Lebanon so much is because the citizens (Muslims & Christians) are united as one family. They look out for each other. There's no "us vs them" mentality (unless you're a lousy politician). InshaAllah we can be light for the rest of the world.


I'm off to bed now. I'll have to postpone my reply to your other post until tomorrow. Sorry habib!


Tisbahu ala kair.