Let get into the beliefs of the Christians

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In the Name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Spirit - One God - now & forever. Amen.


May the Peace of Our Lord & Saviour be with you!

as for the concept of the 3 in 1.... i think every muslim understands it , and rejects it, because it contradicts the sound mind....


it is enough for u to state that God has always been what he is right now....why cz he is PERFECT


you on the other hand changed him from Chocolate pudding, to a KitKat chocolate bar, and still say he is the same. (tell me what sound mind can understand this?)

The Most Holy Trinity is a mystery but not a contradiction. I've explained it a million times on these boards. Just think of water - one substance in three forms: liquid, ice & steam.


The Incarnation can be likened to water being mixed with salt, leaving you with saltwater (a weak & probably flawed analogy - I literally just made it up myself 2 seconds ago).


How do we change God from chocolate pudding to a kitkat (thanks for making me crave it by the way)?

u said it urself.... HUMAN, he is HUMAN...and u praise him to be a GOD.... moreover u move forward to say that he paid a debt he didnt owe, as if GOD was unsure of his creation, when u seem to forget he is in no need of his creation, nor do they effect on him on any sort of way or level.

I know the Incarnation is repugnant to Muslims & I can totally live with that. But it doesn't change anything from my end.


Jesus Christ is both Divine & Human. If God wants His Son to become human & die on the Cross for our salvation, who's going to stop Him?


According to Catholicism...


When God created Adam, He didn't will that Adam disobey Him. Adam freely broke God's Commandment & as a consequence, fell from grace. God promised to send a Redeemer & bring Adam to His original state. Every human descendent from Adam inherited original Sin & share in Adam's fallen human nature. We needed a sinless & flawless Person to destroy the power of evil that hung over humanity, therefore, it was fitting for God to send His only-begotten Son to make up for what His first created son did & restore life. God's Creation. God's Redemption. God's Sanctification. Simple yet profound!

u said it is not SHIRK.... by u saying he has a son, thats shirk


by u saying he is the father, thats shirk


by u saying he needs the son, this is shirk

From an Islamic viewpoint - maybe! But not in Christianity. Did you read the explanations in the other thread? Please do. It's bound to make sense to you sooner or later.


http://islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=4146

u need to read more abiout what shirk is....shirk is of different kinds.

Please explain it to me (if you don't mind). After all, this is an Islamic forum :D

as for being from Zahle...ahlan wa sahlan ya bint :) Zahle used to be one of my favorite mishwar for a neat restaurant in the mountains.

Merci ya zalami :) Ahlan fik! Zahle's my favourite place in the whole wide world.

Lebanon is a very nice place and i miss it dearly.

I miss it more than you :(


Where do you live now? Did you live there as a child, teenager or adult?

Lebanese people are very proud to be lebanese, but i think they over do it sometimes, a perfect example is what u said about them....in ur last sentence.

I agree! I think they go too far when they're willing to sacrifice their lives & dignity for a piece of land. As much as I love Libnan, I wouldn't compromise my religious beliefs or die for it.


For he record, I'm very fond of Faoud Sanioira. He's a top Prime Minister. Allah ayishou wa ayish Libnan!


What Arab country do you originate from?

I ask of u and ur priests to give some respect and dignity to GOD, and not say what they know NOT of him. All this JESUS is the son, is a myth and cannot be proven...based on fairy tales and whims and desires of the jews who distorted the christian faith a long time ago.

I respect your beliefs & I hope you can respect mine. I'll never impose The Faith on you nor will I ever denounce it. I hope you can live with that & Insha a Allah we can still be "friends" (I use that term loosely because I just found out in another thread that Muslims can't befriend non-believers).


Take care & God bless.