Is birthcontrol halaal in islam?

[Faith Hope Charity]

Hello John :wavey:

No, the real world is what actually happens compared to the fantasy world that you dream of.

What you consider fantasy is in actual fact my everyday reality. I'm living it!


Aim high in life! Don't be complacent.

JP2's ramblings are an irrelevance to me at least. If you see some value in it, you go girl.

Now you're singing a totally different tune! Yesterday you said JP2 was unfit to offer relationship advice. But thanks, I guess!

I see, this would be the same insitutions that had adulterers, fornicators etc stoned to death. The silly superstions that had "witches" burned at the stake ? Oh yes, they are totally grounded in antural and moral law alright.

I think we need to distinguish between Christ's spotless Bride (a <i>Divine</i> Institution) & her human children (who commit sin). While we're at it, let's make the distinction between Church & State too, even though State was controlled by Catholics in the past (start a new thread if you'd like to discuss this subject further - I have a lot to share).


The Church's teachings on faith & morals are flawless. If we commit wrongdoing in the name of God, we're taking the Lord's name in vain & that's a breach of the 2nd Commandment.

What I am saying is that "your" church is talking out of ignorance.

What makes you say that? Because bishops choose a celibate life for the sake of the Kingdom?


We don't need to smoke or take drugs to understand they're bad for our health.


The Church is the pillar of truth. She doesn't lower her standards to suit the real world nor will she conform to non-biblical ways.

Do you have a source for that ?

Christopher West - 'Naked Without Shame' or 'Battle for Sexual Purity' (I can't quite remember which one).

And where do the millions of people who have died at the hands of christian zealots stand in your scale of impurity ?

God bless their souls.


They don't stand far from the millions of aborted babies who have died at the hands of Godless enthusiasts. *Please forgive me Father*


Only God can judge.

The christian crusaders who pillaged and raped their way across the globe, were they pious, pure people ?

No, I don't think they were (may they rest in peace). Majority of them were excommunicated.

Your church tells couples where one person is infected with aids not to use condoms thus putting the other partner at risk.

"With no vaccine in sight and lacking the moral courage to embrace chastity, contemporary society, by marketing the condom as the solution to the HIV/AIDS pandemic, has put all its eggs in a condom basket. Yet the very experts who promote the condom as a strategic weapon against HIV/AIDS are silent in regard to its failure as a contraceptive" (NACF)


Fact or Fiction:


"Botswana has one of the worst HIV rates in the world, with around 37 per cent of adults infected. It also has one of the highest rates of condom availability. Less than 5 per cent of the population is Catholic.


Uganda, in contrast, has one of the lowest HIV rates in Africa, with around 4 per cent of adults infected. It has a relatively low rate of condom availability. The population is also one-third Catholic."


For the full article: http://www.sydney.catholic.org.au/Archbish...5731_1029.shtml


Take care, Mate :)