12-07-2006, 09:03 PM
Quote:By whom? The same humanitarians who are running guantanamo Bay? The same ones from Abu Gharaib? The same soldiers who kill and rape women and even murder little children? This is progression and humanitarianism?
I dont think the trouble with the world is that there is too much religion, the problem is that ignorance is prevalient. In religion, and otherwise.
Posted by JohnDoe:
Quote:It always bring a wry smile to my face when the muslims on here jump up and down at any indiscretion made by "the west".
Well, I think JohnDoe’s comments speak volumes about those who flail their pom poms in support of these totalitarian regimes yet these are the same people who explicitly choose not to live under the strictures of these fear societies.
By the way SisterJennifer, unless I’m mistaken, you just happen to live in the U.S. which provides you uncounted opportunities simply not available in Islamist/muslim nations.
Your credibility is clearly suspect as it applies to this topic. You may well champion the merits of a crushingly oppressive and theocratic government yet in the U.S. you are protected (by law) from the very atrocities, indignations and injustices imposed by those orthodox islamic regimes you endorse.
Safely ensconced in the West, you have no real expectation of being the victim of an “honor killing” or an acid attack or a suicide bomber attacking you. You have no real expectation of being forced into a marriage to a relative or a similar agreement. You have no real expectation of being the victim of religious discrimination. The West protects your right to practice your religion of choice without compulsion. The very rights Moslems demand for themselves, they explicitly deny non-Moslems living in “Muslim Lands”™. It is truly comical to read the posts of those who demand rights and freedoms be granted to them while they cynically and explicitly refuse to extend those same rights to others.
Where is your killer instinct as it applies to the Islamist terrorists in Iraq? Oddly, I see no Muslims doing much of anything as they are bombed and bloodied by other Muslims. I see no Muslims organizing to rid themselves of the terrorist element.
Worse yet, I see no Muslims doing much of anything to improve their situation. Unfortunately, you offer not just circular, nonsensical arguments but viciously circular, nonsensical arguments and few seem to challenge them.
This may all be obvious to most, but it appears that you have difficulty separating fact from fantasy.