07-14-2006, 04:08 AM
Bismillah:
Quote:I stand by the fact that the Bible teaches that Jesus is God.
I stand by the fact that since Jesus pbuh himself never claim divinity i.e never said I AM GOD or WORSHIP ME, therefore he is NOT GOD.
don't you think CC, that it is VERY VERY IMPORTANT for GOD "Jesus" "if he was God" to declare that HE IS GOD? are you saying that when Jesus pbuh was telling his disciples to "worship the Father", he meant to say WORSHIP ME? Do you want us to believe that his twelve apostles were so dense that they could not comprehend the difference between a "father" and a "son" ? Are there no words in his language to say "I am God or I am not God but His son, worship both of us"?
God must command us to worship him, the same way He did in the OT, and Jesus did command us to worship God, and this is enough proof that he is not God. otherwise, Why did God Himself not simply remain quiet (like Jesus) and expect us to "gather" and "observe" that He wishes us to worship Him. that would be silly.
Jesus pbuh never in his lifetime told anyone to worship him. It was others who did that LIKE PAUL AND THE VERSES YOU QUOTED. in fact, whenever Jesus pbuh spoke of worship, he always attributed it to God and never himself:
"Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve" Luke 4:8.
Notice the words: "Him ONLY." Jesus did not say "US only," or "Him and I only." How could he possibly make it more clear than that?
the following verses will make it clear that Jesus is NOT GOD.
"Jesus saith unto her, ... worship the Father"John 4:2.
If you still believe that Jesus should be worshipped, then you are claiming that Jesus is the Father. so you decided, either you worship God the Father as Jesus himself commanded you, or you woship Jesus himself and call him the Father.
"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship HIM"John 4:23.
Notice: "worship the FATHER," not "worship the Father AND THE SON." Also notice: "worship HIM" not "worship US" or "worship ME."
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."Matthew 7:21.
"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." Matthew 22:37.
Jesus is asking you to love the Lord your God, he did not tell you you shall love thy God which is me with all ..........
God is God CC, and Jesus is one of His great prophets who came to deliver the message of monotheism to his people. so believe in God and His prophets.
Salam
Wael