01-14-2005, 04:17 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-14-2005, 04:19 PM by umm Zachariah.)
Hi Ronniv,
Let's continue...
<i>''If we didn't believe that Jesus, pbuh, was God manfiested in the flesh, we wouldn't worship Him either.''</i>
I understand that, since it is what Islam teaches - there is not such a belief in Islam so neither is there any need to turn away from worshipping only One Creator. So here we seem to agree.
Yes, you may understand it as 'lip-service' when it concerns the prophets since we DO NOT worship them, just repeating to make myself clear. And when you don't physically turn to them, then it maybe called to use 'lip-service' but you forget the intention how this is done, how the persons heart is included. In Islam you cannot DO only lip-service, physically worship or pray, IF you don't have your heart with you, in whatever you do. It has to be a combination to be valid. And when you are a true believer, you combine all of these possibilities to worship, honour, pray when you submit yourself to all the acts you do. Including saying 'peace be upon him' - you feel in your inner heart the mighty respect that persons namne gives you. And THAT is respect or honour, but NOT worship.
Just to clarify - I see you misunderstand the phrase 'phub, peace be upon him'. It is NOT a prayer to try to intermediate to place this person in Paradise, (we Muslims do say Paradise), it is like wishing this persons soul peace and tranquility.
Let me clarify some more. You say <i>''Some say that because Muslims bow in prayer as Jesus, pbuh, did that THAT's proof. ''</i>
We do not follow Jesus, pbuh, in the sense that you try to put it, since he was sent to the Children of Israel, for them to follow him.
But when you mention prayer, it IS interesting to note, that praying like he did and like Muslims do, also Jews used to do. So the proof for me in that, is that this is praying ordained by our Creator, to all of us, whoever we are. It is the true way to pray/worship/submit to Him.
I do NOT worry a bit that there will be any rewriting when it concern Islam, its Prophet, pbuh, or the last edition revealed by Him, SWT, the Qur'an. But I am aware of that there will always be attempts to try to change them, but know that the true message of our Creator is engraved in the hearts of the believers and the Qur'an is protected by Allah, SWT Himself.
Regards