01-13-2005, 09:13 PM
“And thou wast not (able) to recite a Book before this (Book came), nor art thou (Able) to transcribe it with thy right hand: In that case, indeed, would the talkers of vanities have doubted. * Nay, here are Signs self evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our Signs.” (Quran 29: 48-49)
Ronniv as u can clearly see the Quran specificly establishes the fact that Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam was illiterate in order to stand as an argument against those who would say he composed the Quran.
Now it is not that I am reluctant to go further on this point but u already went thru Joshua’s thread which contained other evidences on the Quran.
To make this hot debate cool down I am addressing my brothers and sisters here. Just imagine yourself in a class room explaining a math problem to students, one student keeps repeating the same question, if u start mocking the student, the situation will be loose to loose. Since he/she will grow more defending and may be aggressive. The whole situation will not be beneficial to any one. But if u take the time, try to help the student put his/her thought to order u might achieve the goal.
This is on our part. As for u ronniv, it will help much if u take in consideration that we are Muslims. I told u before we are not responsible for what others say, only for our posts here which we back by Quran (our book revealed from Allah to Prophet Mohamed salla Allah a`lyhee wa sallam and the Sunnah.
Let us start from fresh trying to follow this manner in order to achieve our goal.
As for why the word Ummi is translated as illiterate because this is what it means. There are other Ayah's of Quran in which Allah addresses Ummyeen with people of the book in chapter 3.
Insh a Allah I will post it to u just take time to read this.
I guess the overwhelming number of posts will not allow u to read all
Besides u r not convinced of any evidence making Quran devine that is still ok with us. we will still reply for others to understand.