Jesus In Islam

[ronniv93]

So...where do you go with this one now Ronnie? Nowhere as usual. Sigh, why do you do this. It doesn't help you.

You are very quick to come to certain conclusions without having examined anything whatsoever about the topic.


Where I have gotten this from IS some Muslims themselves. The very word you used "unlettered", the say, MAY mean illiterate but has also been used to refer to people who have never received any type of scripture or revelation before. I am not making these things up.

I know the whole Mohammed (Peace and blessings be upon him) being illiterate thing is very frustrating for Christians and orientalists but it is true.

Actually, we couldn't care less, since it does not prove anything anyway. An illiterate man who SPOKE words that were written down by others is not miraculous. So, frankly the topic doesn't challenge us in any way. Now, if a person said that he was illiterate AND ALSO miraculously WROTE some "masterpiece", then THAT would catch my attention.


Or a person who was mute their whole lives, somehow missing some body part allowing for speech AND THEN they spoke... now THAT would be attention-grabbing as well. But to point to a man, illiterate, and say that he SPOKE the Quran?? How is that supposed to be frustrating for us? I have never gotten that one. Why would we feel threatened by that?

So, if any "Muslim" says it isn't true he is diagreeing with his own book. How do you explain this one?

As I have stated above.... That some say that the word IN ARABIC does not mean (or is not limited to) illiteracy, but also refers to those who do not possess any scriptures - hence, unlettered.

Hope that's cleared things up Ron!

It didn't because you didn't bring any evidence of anything. However, I will.

Question:  Is the meaning of the word “ummi” illiterate or not? Please clarify.
Answer: Conventionally the word can mean ‘illiterate’ but when the Qur’an uses the word “ummi” for the Prophet, it does not imply that he was illiterate in the conventional sense. What it means is that the Prophet’s mind was not touched by a human teacher but rather he was like a flower nourished by the eternal Gardener. In other words, the Prophet had intuitive knowledge given to him by Allah. Reading and writing are some of the tools required to acquire knowledge but when the knowledge is had, there is no need to read or write. This special characteristic of the Prophet is one of the specific challenges that the author of the Qur’an is Allah and not a human being.


Source:  AlMizan

The Qur'an reveals


Prophet Muhammad was "Ummi"


but that does not denote the Prophet was illiterate...


The Qur'an tells us that


Prophet Muhammad was sent to "Ummiyyiina" (plural of Ummi)


but that does not denote


the Arabs of Arabia


were illiterate...


Source:


Most Merciful.com

Now, you can say that these people are not truly Muslim, they aren't good sources, etc., etc. But you CANNOT say that I just pulled these things out of the air.

What other wacky madness will you come up with to try and justify Christianity. Maybe Jesus wrote Qur'an!! wacko.gif Subhan-Allah

How do you think that THIS issue somehow justifies Christianity? It has nothing to do with justifying anything.

Personally some advice...i would really think about the statements you put up here, because ones like this make you seem more ignorant of Islam then i know you really are.

And my advice is to wait and hear the whole story before jumping to conclusions.