01-11-2005, 06:49 PM
Quote:We're going by a book written by men,
Oh, so you're saying that the Quran <b>wasn't</b> written by men? Did Muhammad see the "hand of God" writing onto pieces of paper or something?
Quote:which has been altered countless times through history written so many hndreds of years after Christ,
Prove to me that this passage is incorrect or has been corrupted or inserted. And what would have been the reason or motive for adding these supposed "false words" into Jesus' mouth? If one cannot show me that THIS PASSAGE was somehow purposely altered then there's no argument. We must deal with the passage as is unless you can prove it to be falsified.
Quote:There's nothing to hold on to as solid in the Bible.
Well, THAT is quite false. I see things in the Bible all the time that are solid. The Bible has proven itself over and over and over again. Not only in my life but the lives of people all around me.
The promises in the Bible stand true and come to pass just as God has spoken it. So, I speak from experience on the matter. Miracles have taken place IN TODAY'S TIME as in the past just as the Bible speaks of. Blessings come into my life just as the Bible promises. Thus, I cannot agree with you that there is nothing solid in the Bible.
And in any case, why can't the passage I posted simply be dealt with and answered? Muslims pick and choose selective verses to try to prove to Christians that they respect Jesus but then all of a sudden want to go back to calling the Bible corrupt when there's something that is contradictory to the Quran.
There is no scientific or factual basis for this picking-and-choosing. It seems to be based upon desire - what a person wants to believe and what they don't. THAT is what's not solid to me.
Quote:Christian Biblical scholars themselves tell us it's not fully Divine, and mostly altered,
Okay, so should I accept the words of some Islamic scholars who say that the Quran has different Arabic versions or that some ayats of the Quran are missing or were left out? Or what about the people who say that there were some verses (i.e., the so-called "satanic verses") that WERE in the Quran but later removed.
Will you stop being Muslim because some other Muslims believe these kinds of things?
Quote:You keep fighting it Ronni but there's no where to go...
No fighting of anything. I just asked a question.