Strange Things

[ronniv93]

So to ME this is rather clear, since you say that this 'another' shall be like him, so it then has to be a PHYSICAL person, with the same qualities.

Well, I see that this passage leads you to one conclusion and me to another.


I don't agree that it has to be a physical being. He said another <b>COMFORTER</b>; this is why I gave the definition of this word - because it describes what the disciples were supposed to be looking for.


To ME, it cannot possibly be another physical being because of all the relevant verses about this comforter:


1. John 4:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, <b>that he may abide with you for ever</b>;



Human beings die. They don't "abide" or "live" with anyone forever.


2. John 4:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: <b>but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you</b>.



Whomever Jesus is talking about here was already existent in the disciples, as He indicates in this verse.


Also, Jesus says that the "Spirit of Truth" would be <b>IN THEM</b>. A physical human being cannot be IN other physical beings.


3. <b>But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost</b>, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.



In this passage, Jesus plainly says that the Comforter is the Holy Ghost.


Furthermore, Jesus promises that this Comforter would remind the disciples of all that Jesus said unto them. If this were a human being, he would have had to appear on the scene in the lifetime of the disciples/apostles, but Muhammad came 600 years later. That's a bit too late to try to remind the disciples of anything.


There are also many other passages in the Gospels that speak of the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.

<b>Lk. 4:1</b> And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
<b>Lk. 11:13 </b>If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?


<b>John 1:33 </b>And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.


<b>John 7:39 </b>(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

For all of these reasons & verses and more, there is absolutely no reason for me to think that a physical person would come. The Book of Acts actually records details about the day the Holy Spirit entered into the disciples. There were 120 people gathered together, all in one accord and praying. Jesus' mother was among these people.


She, along with them, received the Holy Spirit. So, I see the fulfillment and culmination of what Jesus promised would happen.


You have a good day as well!