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Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - Muslimah - 10-09-2003




Quote:<i>Originally posted by MichelleSeeking </i>What he said about the light that I saw sounds very true I am quite content being Christian and the dream interpretation is very strange to my Christian heart.

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Mash a Allah Radiyah, I preferred to keep quite on the rest of the interpretation, I knew this meaning in addition to the Quran, u know the Ayah that say we revealed light, of course in addition to describing the Prophet as sirajan muniran. But may be she had to hear it now. As u describe yourself Michelle, u tell yourself that u r content of being Christian, in such cases I prefer not to enforce, but the dream (preciely the ru-ia: vision) because this is from Allah has no other meaning but this. See I feel long time ago that u r trying to convince yourself that u r content of being Christian althought u r actually not. I am sure of this. So just seek Allah help and close guidance to save u from your weekness and rescue u. About Radiyah's dream, let her tell u when it is the right time. ok. u would not quite grasp this now, but just let her tell u when is the right time according to Allah.

And Radiyah may Allah increase this scholar in eman and taqawa pls give him my salam and ask him to make dua for me.

and sorry I deleted one of the posts when I found they were identical, u might want to just post the other pic sorry for that:o



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - radiyah - 10-09-2003


Alsalam alaykom all brothers and sisters, Muslima thanku for deleting one of the posts, i wanted to delete it yesterday but i dont know what happened, it did'nt accept to delete, and it doesnt matter about the picture any is sufficient. And yes insha2Allah I will ask the scholar to pray for you, he is a very good teacher we learned a lot from him and still learning may God give him long life so we can learn more and more.

Michelle, you said that :

Quote:What he said about the light that I saw sounds very true. Now I'm wondering, "What will become of me?"
Ok then if u think what he said is true, so why wait Michelle, why

don't you read more and learn more about Islam, think Michelle, Islam did not say anything that contradicts with the mind, on the contrary it has one and only goal for a human being , and that is to worship one God, who is Allah, just think how can a God who created the whole universe have a son and if his son was to be crucified couldn't he have saved him , logic tells you that, as our scholar told us that christianity before( I don't remember exactly but it was around 200 or 300 years before prophet Mohammad's birth) christianty then was to worship God only and that jesus is his prophet, then it changed later because of some greedy men who wanted to take money frm people so God will forgive their sins.( Does God need money from people???? of course not, he created them and all this universe, so why should we give money to mere human beings like us whom God created to ask God to forgive our sins, God is there up in the heaven, he seas all he hears all, he will forgive all

if they ask him,he doesn't need anything from us he created us, we need him and need his forgivness, so ask his guide Michele, ask God and God alone not human beings, and he will show you more than that vision although I think it is enough proof for you, but let us not just rush it).ok back to what we were saying about christianity, they changed to worshiping Jesus because they say he had miracles,our prophet(pbuh) has miracles also, and all that is because of God's gifts to his prophets and messengers, didn't you read about the moon spliting in two when the prophet(pbuh) just raised his hand and said (Bismillah) and the moon split in half and stayed there split for more than ten minutes without falling or collapsing, and many arabs at that time turned to islam, and the americans when they went to the moon, they found the moon had been split 1400 years ago but they don't have a logical explanation of it, we do, this was God's power so that he will give aid to his messenger to help him in spreading Islam, and by the way a british doctor and his daughter embraced Islam because of that moon split I don't recall his name now, I will find it for you. And there are so many facts that proofs that prophet Mohammad(pbuh)is a prophet, just look more deeply in the quran in prophet Mohammad's biography(pbuh), and you will find the truth. Do we hate Jesus or Meriam oh no we dont

we beleive in them, and as you know, I sent you the story of Meriam and Jesus(pbuh) in the Quran, there is a whole Surrah about Meriam(and it is named after her), so do you think then we hate them. If you wish to learn more about prophet Mohammad's miracles just say, I will tell you about it, I have them all written, our scholar taught us about all that, and ok I will ask him for you our next lesson on sunday I hope he won't be very busy, sometimes I just cant catch him because lots of ladies ask him so I must give chance for others:D , and about my dream, well yes it is still not the right time yet, but I want to ask you 1 question, is your mother still alive? and if she is, and if my post will have just a little effect on you, maybe then I will tell you my dream.( but don't you think that this is strange to dream about you before seeing you or joining this forum )[Image: smile.gif] , this is a vision from God, and I hope it will become true. I pray for you Michelle always I will pray more in my prayers, because you are so good and pure in heart.[Image: ohmy.gif]

And sister Muslimah, I will pray for you also, and insha2Allah God will be your guide and assistance, and insha2Allah you will pass this test, and God is always with the beleivers, it's just that we must have difficulties in life and tests so that we will prove our faith and become stronger and better muslims.

Sorry all for my long post, but I hope Michelle will see the truth there and her seeking will stop by following the right path [Image: ohmy.gif] Ameeeeeeeeeen.

And about the picture Michelle this is the picture of the Kabba in mecca it is not showing completly, I didnt intend to put this 1 when i uploaded it, I had another 1 with light and verses from the quran, and I had 2 identical posts with different pictures(clumsy of me:D, first time i try to attach pictures) and sister Muslima

deleted the second 1, so it is ok, don't worry much about it.



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - MichelleSeeking - 10-09-2003


radiyah sorry for the delay in answering, but yes, my mother is alive and I recently had a terrifying dream about her. I have been very worried for her.

Can you help me research the splitting of the moon? Where can I find documentation from NASA about the 1400 year old split they found in the moon? I have never heard of that before! Nor have I heard of such a miracle as Muhammad splitting the moon.

Muslimah, you have good insight. Even though I find my Catholic faith to be awsome - awe inspiring! - and the doctrines and teachings make sense, and the history complete, and the Bible incorrupt, something is still nagging at me. I keep wondering, What is it and why?



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - radiyah - 10-10-2003


Alsalam to all brothers and sisters.

Well michelle thank God your mother is still alive, tell about your dream of her maybe it is not terrible, maybe on the conntrary.

and yes I am looking for proof from nasa for you and by aid of Allah I will find .

meanwhile here are some sites I found for you, the complete story of the miracle, and others, 1 of them the clearguidance forum where it

is talking about the moon split, and about the british guy who embraced islam, but he was saying here that he was young strange, the scholar dr. zaghlol Al-najjar who said this story said

that it was him and his daughter, I attended once a lecture for him talking about the moon split story, anyways I will keep onlooking for proofs for you, and may Allah Allmighty help me, and enlighten your heart and show you the right path.

http://forums.clearguidance.com/showthread.php?t=4466

http://www.intisaarul.netfirms.com/splitti...of_the_moon.htm

http://www.islamanswers.net/miracles/moon.htm



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - Muslimah - 10-10-2003




Quote:<i>Originally posted by MichelleSeeking </i><b></b>

Muslimah, you have good insight. Even though I find my Catholic faith to be awsome - awe inspiring! - and the doctrines and teachings make sense, and the history complete, and the Bible incorrupt, something is still nagging at me. I keep wondering, What is it and why?
I have no insight it is just from Allah Michelle, I feel it but just keep quite. Because u r already feeling a panic, i understand that. u say the bible is in corrupt and Christian faith is ok. U say this only by tongue not by heart, deep inside u know the truth. But we never push people. Quran say no compulsion in religion. I join Radiyah who suggested that u seek Allah's close guidance, just sit and talk to Him tell Him how confused u r and how eager u r to know. He shall certainly tell u.



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - Muslimah - 10-10-2003


as salam alykom Radiyah

we had the translation of the article of Zaghloul annajar talking about head of the British Islamic Party on this board. Don't know where it gone:(



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - Dan - 10-12-2003


Bismillah

Michelle, I appreciate your quest for knowledge. Before I was muslim, I was catholic also.

Yet even before I thought of being muslim, there were things about the faith that I had trouble with. Such as if Jesus was fully human and divine, there are contradictions in that. Being a man one produces sperm. It is just a fact of being fully man. Jesus remained celebate. If one does not rid sperm from sex then it is either discharged in a nocturnal emmission or through the urine. These living cells could not die because they are from one who is divine right? and Jesus is eternal, correct? So are there billions of little eternal cells in existance, which contradicts God being one? Or was Jesus just really a blessed man? Jesus also had to defecate and urinate. It is part of being human. Is this befitting of God?

Also there was a council held in the 900s I think called the Council of Nicea. This council was formed to decide whether or not Jesus was human, god, or part of each, or fully both. So a group of men decided the nature of God. In Islam, God has told us who He Is.

Also, Islam does not have the concept of Original Sin. Adam and Eve both sinned and both attoned for this sin. (Notice Islam does not put the sin mostly on Eve as Christianity does, which alludes to women being less vituous then men. A view that was propogated through much of Christian history.) Islam believes that only the person who committed the sin is accountable for that sin and only God alone without intecessor can forgive that sin. This concept appealled to me greatly. Why do I have to tell a priest about my fallacies? Didn't I offend God not him? So what does the priest have to do with it? We know that priests sin also sometimes more than what catholics call laypeople. The closeness to God is achieved not by going to some school and through certain rituals but rather through ones deeds. Anyone can get close to God in Islam.

God is the most Just and Merciful, correct? Then why would He torture His own son to forgive our sins? How is this mercy? "God so loved the world that He sent His only Son?" Either God does not really love His son or His love for us is not what we think. If I told my wife that I love her so much that I am going to kill my daughter for her, does that make sense? When the newspapers have stories of mothers killing their children so their boyfriends will be happy, this is out of love of the mother for her boyfriend. Does it make sense to those of us that think rationally?

Do you believe that God gave us gifts to be used? Then why is one of the major gifts of rationality ignored in catholicism?

I would question my mother how three equals one, how could God be one when clearly Jesus and God were apart for a while? "It is just a mystery," would be her reply. "You have to have faith." Faith in what? I don't even know what I am supposed to have faith in. None of questions could be answered. Would God give us a religion that we could not understand?

As for the Bible being uncorrupt, there are many contradictions in it. Read it from front to back like I did and you will see them. The Qur'an was revealed in Arabic and is still in the same exact Arabic as when it was revealed.

How many different versions of the Bible exist? Which one is the correct version? Jesus spoke Aramaic. Where is the bible in Aramaic, which would be the exact words of Jesus? Some gospels were written in Hebrew then translated to Greek then Latin, then the various editions that exist now. If you have taken any foreign language especially on of the non-Romance languages, you know that many times it is difficult to find exact words to translate with.

Also the gospels were written many years after Jesus died. Mark was first around 40AD. He was a disciple of one of the apostles, so the story was second hand, not a eye witness account. The next gospels, Matthew and Luke were written about 70 years after Jesus' death. Both were also based on the gospel of Mark. That is why they are so similar. John was written 100 years after Jesus' death. Also many other gospels were written, one of which was by the apostle Barnabas. Why is his not included? How were these four chosen? Once again by a group of men, not God.

It just occurred to me that you may now find my facts reliable, which I understand since you do not know me. I found out all this in my catholic educatoin which I received for twelve years in private catholic school.

If you are happy with your religion, then that is fine with me. If every person in the world decided to no longer be muslim (which won't happen), I would still be muslim. My faith in this beautiful religion cannot be shaken Insha'Allah. Many people have tried to talk me out of my faith and I let them try. If someone can bring me a religion with more truth, then I would convert to that. It has yet to happen and it never will. I have studied many other religions while I was in college also and none have even come close to Islam. It has everything I need. Peace, paradise, rules to show me how God wants me to please Him, my deeds are mine alone.

I know of many other things that led me from christianity but I have written enough for now. Feel free to ask if you want because I feel our backgrounds are probably more similar than that of other members of the board. I apologize if I have angered or offended you. Writing this though has also stregthened my resolve even more that I have made the correct choice.

I truly did not want to offend you but I only wanted to have truth expressed with out candy coating it.

Thank you. God Bless you, me and everyone else.

Alhamdulillah



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - radiyah - 10-12-2003


Alsalam 3ala man itaba3 alhouda, Michele , Alhamdulilah I asked the scholar about you, he said you must read more and learn more about Islam, and about the moon split, Dr. zaghlol Ilnajjar is coming in Ramadan , that is in about 13 days, he said he will ask him about the story, anyways I am still looking proofs for you, but you also must help yourself Michelle you must read more

and ask more, why don't you try asking american muslims why they converted seek with them they can help you, if you don't know any search for them and ask for Allah's aid he will help you and beleive me he will open the paths and doors for you 1 by 1 if you

search with a beleiving and paious heart, by the way I found the homepage of the islamic party of britain, and the one concerning mr. David mousa pidcock, i submitted a question to him about the moon split till now i did not get an answer, maybe he is very busy, anyways go there and read maybe you will find something that will help you.

http://www.islamicparty.com/people/david.htm

this is another 1 showing a fault line in the moon look at it and concentrate.

http://www.geocities.com/jmmahony/pgo/photo/moon.html

http://www.star.ucl.ac.uk/~apod/solarsys/eng/moon.htm

maybe this will answer your question [Image: smile.gif]

http://www.star.ucl.ac.uk/~apod/nineplanets/luna.html

there is a paragraph in this site that says (( There are two primary types of terrain on the Moon: the heavily cratered and very old highlands and the relatively smooth and younger maria. The maria (which comprise about 16% of the Moon's surface) are huge impact craters that were later flooded by molten lava. Most of the surface is covered with regolith, a mixture of fine dust and rocky debris produced by meteor impacts. For some unknown reason, the maria are concentrated on the near side.))

http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov/HAS/...cirr/em/7/2.cfm

http://www.space.edu/moon/atlas/Nearside/Birt.html

http://www.space.edu/moon/atlas/Nearside/A...pineValley.html

I hope these will be sufficient, if not tell me but I will still look more proof for you I hope you will see the truth there, and that you will follow the light that you saw in your vision , Mohammad (PBUH) .

Muslimah I am sorry [Image: rolleyes.gif], I did not ask the scholar to pray for you I was such in a hurry to ask about Michelle, and there was some1 else waiting, so I did not want to keep them waiting. Insha2Allah next time, I am praying for you, may Allah remove whatsover Ibtilaa you are passing (wa ja3alaho Allahu fee meezan 7asanatik ya rab )

see you all soon, and brothers and sisters please all pray for michelle to follow the right path, and pray for sister Muslimah to pass the test she is going through.

Wa3alaykom alsalam wa rahamat Allah wa barakatuh



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - radiyah - 10-12-2003


I have written my post before seeing dan's post, Masha2 Allah Dan, that was a very nice post, may Allah Allmighty bless you and make you stronger and more paious. And I hope Michelle will beleive and understand what you said, but we do not want to force it on her, InshaaAllah she will be convinced I am sure, I had

2 visions about her and that is from God, and InshaaAllah soon enough when it is time she will come to see the truth.[Image: smile.gif]

Alsalam 3alaykom May Allah bless you all.



Qur'anic verse of deep interest to me - Muslimah - 10-13-2003

Mash a Allah Dan, may Allah increase you more in Eman, knowledge and piety. ameen May Allah keep us and u fixed on the correct path and Islam till the Day After ameen