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  Who are the Black pope and the Jesuits?
Posted by: abdulwalee - 11-11-2007, 09:19 PM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (2)


Secrets the Jesuits don't want you to know


Out of Europe, a voice is heard from the secular world that documents historically the same information told by ex-priests. The author exposes the Vatican's involvement in world politics, intrigues, and the fomenting of wars throughout history. It appears, beyond any doubt, that the Roman Catholic institution is not a Christian church and never was. The poor Roman Catholic people have been betrayed by her and are facing spiritual disaster...


From the book: “The Secret History of the Jesuits” by Edmond Paris; translated from the French, 1975:


About the author “Edmond Paris”:


“In exposing such a conspiracy, he put his life at stake.” “Edmond Paris never knew me, but I knew him without meeting him personally when I, with other Jesuits under the extreme oath and induction, was being briefed on the names of institutions and individuals in Europe who were dangerous to the goals of the Roman Catholic Institution. His name was given to us.” “The Edmond Paris works on Roman Catholicism brought about the pledge on the part of the Jesuits to: 1) destroy him, 2) destroy his reputation, including his family and, 3) destroy his work.”


-Dr. Alberto Rivera


(Ex-Jesuit Priest)


“The Jesuits secretly and relentlessly work toward two major goals for the Roman Catholic Institution: 1. “Universal political power” and 2. “A universal church in fulfillment of the prophesies of Revelation 6, 13, 17 and 18.” ¹


The Jesuits (Society of Jesus) are the spies and the assassination squad of the Catholic Church. People who believe this institution to be “religious” or “spiritual” are sadly deluded. It is and always has been political in every respect. It is a political front that operates to control people using many fictitious religious characters and ceremonies stolen from religions predating it from around the world. The separation of church and state mean nothing to the Catholic Church, that works relentlessly and ruthlessly for world domination by any means possible. This institution has been built on mass murder, torture, extortion, organized crime, lies and depriving humanity of true spirituality. It has controlled kings, queens, nobility, presidents, governments, and nearly anyone in power.


There are claims of a “Black Pope.” This is only a myth; a myth to divert the responsibility from the Catholic Pope and his clan of criminals. In truth, they employ the concept of Hegelianism by playing both sides against the middle to gain control. This is analogous to someone who openly preaches against illicit drug use, openly works for the DEA pretending to fight illicit drug use and in secret, operates a drug smuggling and distribution ring right out of the DEA; or a crooked cop. While the Catholic Church openly claims to be a religious and charitable institution, it secretly runs and controls organized criminal activities.


The Protestants are all too happy to condemn the Catholics and dig up dirt on them as blame shifting takes away the need to explain how such degeneracy and odious actions could repeatedly occur within the xian churches. Of course, we all know Satan has been a scapegoat for these criminals all along, as they are too deluded and indoctrinated to see it has been their own “god” who has always been deceiving them.


Ignatius de Loyola was the founder of the Jesuits. The Protestant reformation had done serious damage to the uncontested control of the Catholic Church by the time he arrived on the scene. He came to the conclusion the only way the Catholic Church could regain the power it lost was to enforce the canons and doctrines on the temporal power of the pope and not just destroy lives through the Inquisition, as the Dominican priests and nuns were doing, but to secretly infiltrate every area of life.


“The constitution of the Company of Jesus was at last drafted and approved in Rome by Paul III, in 1540, and the Jesuits put themselves at the disposition of the pope, promising him unconditional obedience.” ²


Ignatius was more aware than any other Catholic leader who preceded him that the best way to control a man was to become master of his mind. “We imbue him to spiritual forces which he would find very difficult to eliminate later.” “…forces more lasting than all the best principles and doctrines; these forces can come up again to the surface sometimes after years of not even mentioning them, and become so imperative that the will finds itself unable to oppose any obstacle, and has to follow their irresistible impulse.” ³


One must always remember how the Catholic Church has much esoteric knowledge at its disposal from centuries of confiscating, looting, and systematic removal of these materials from the populace. The Jesuits have used this knowledge to the detriment of humanity. Unbeknownst to most, the Jesuits have infiltrated every country on the face of the earth and have been expelled by many. Through the Catholic sacrament of confession, the Jesuits gained control of Kings and Queens, rulers and nobility. They were even offered important political posts openly. It wouldn’t be at all surprising that blackmail was frequently used.


"Whenever a country was infested with Jesuits, they managed to take control. This was done through infiltration. Soon after, the authorities began consulting them with important issues, large donations would start flowing in and before long, “they occupied all of the schools, the pulpits of most churches and the confessionals of all high ranking people.” 4


"The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars- a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict." 5


“No state suffered as much as Poland did under the Jesuits’ domination.” “And in no other country apart from Portugal, was the society so powerful.” “While Poland was heading fast towards ruin, the number of Jesuit establishments and schools was growing so fast that the General made Poland into a special congregation in 1751.” 6


Teachings of the Far East were corrupted with the arrival and infestation of the Jesuits. Jesuit Robert de Nobile settled in India to convert the masses to Catholicism there. True to the nature of a Jesuit, he infiltrated the Brahmin priestly caste (always appealing to the ruling classes). “He developed the clothes, habits and way of living of the Brahmins, mixed their rites with Christian ones, all with the approval of Pope Gregory XV.” He converted over 250,000 Hindus. 7


This, more than likely is where a lot of the ludicrous new age teachings with their promotion of the nazarene, the teachings of “karma” and angels comes from- xian infiltration.


"In South America, they conquered the natives who were subsequently forced to live under strict Catholicism. “The Jesuits watch over them…” “…they punish the smallest mistakes…The whip, fasting, prison, pillory on the public square, public penance in the church, these are the chastisements they use.”


“The culprit dressed in the clothes of a penitent, was escorted to church where he confessed his fault. Then he was whipped on the public square according to the penal code… The culprits always received this chastisement, not only without murmurs, but also with thanksgivings…The guilty one, having been punished and reconciled, kissed the hand of the one who struck him, saying ‘May God reward you for freeing me, by this light punishment, from the eternal sorrows which threatened me." 8


“We will compose poems; but may our poets be Christians and not followers of Pagans who invoke Muses, Mountain Nymphs, Sea Nymphs, Calliope, Apollo, etc…or other Gods and Goddesses. What’s more, if these are to be mentioned, may it be with the view to caricature them, as they are only demons.”


9


The Roman Catholic Church was among the richest landowners in North Africa. In Mexico, they had silver mines and sugar refineries, in Paraguay, tea and cacao plantations, carpet factories and also control over the food supply as they owned the cattle and “exported 80,000 mules per year.” “And to make an even bigger profit, the fathers did not hesitate to defraud the state treasury, as seen in the well known story of the so-called boxes of chocolate unloaded at Cadix which were full of gold powder.” 10Ibid, pp. 68


January 7th, 1960, in Rome, there was a summit conference that took place that was intended to bring a peaceful co-existence between the soviets and the eastern bloc and the west. In the USA, Cardinal Spellman (who has numerous photos in magazines and newspapers standing beside important world leaders) urged Catholics to show open hostility to Mr. Khrushchev, when he visited the United States and was a guest here. Cardinal Ottaviani, Secretary of the Holy Office, delivered a most vehement speech at the basilica of “Saint Marie-Majeure” against the Soviets and the Western Powers who were involved in the peace project. 11


One might ask what purpose war serves when an institution such as the Catholic Church is striving for world rule. Nothing known to humanity changes lives, creates devastation and opens people up for domination more than war. Both sides of the conflict are aided and funded by those intent on establishing world domination and the creation of a slave state. At the end of the war, all countries concerned are at the debt of the international bankers, much of these owned, and operated by the Vatican. This is not to disregard others who are working for the same objectives. All parties involved use each other to achieve these ends, along the way, both despise each other out of greed and seek each other’s destruction so if the goal is achieved, the winner takes all. What they all have in common is the worship of the same “god.”


¹ Vatican Assassins: Wounded in the House of My Friends, The Diabolical History of the Society of Jesus Including: Its Second Thirty Years' War (1914-1945), its Cold War (1945-1990), and Its Assassination of America's First Roman Catholic President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1963) by Eric Jon Phelps, 2001


<b>http://youtube.com/watch?v=o4vUFlbQ1FE</b>, www.Vaticanssassins.org

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  Al-Fawaa'id By Imaam Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah
Posted by: abdulwalee - 11-11-2007, 08:08 PM - Forum: "And remind for reminding benefit the believers - Replies (3)


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Points of Benefit from the Book Al-Fawaa'id


1. How can anyone who has common sense trade Paradise and what is in it for the pleasure of one hour?


2. When you fear the creation, you feel repelled by it and run away from it, but when you fear the Creator, you feel close to Him and run towards Him.


3. If knowledge without action were of benefit, why did Allaah condemn the scholars of the People of the Book? And if action without sincerity were of benefit, why did He condemn the hypocrites?


4. Repel the thought, for if you don’t, it becomes an idea. So repel the idea, for if you don’t it will become a desire. So fight against that (desire), for if you don’t, it will become a determination and a passion. And if you don’t repel that, it will become an action. And if you don’t replace it with its opposite, it will become a constant habit. So at that point, it will be difficult for you to change it.


5. When a decreed matter occurs to Allaah’s ‘abd (slave), which he dislikes, then he should have six perspectives about it


First: The Perspective of Tawheed: And that Allaah is the One who decreed it and willed it and created it. And whatever Allaah wills comes to pass, and whatever He doesn’t will doesn’t come to pass.


Second: The Perspective of Fairness: And that He ruled this event to occur in the past and that there is fairness in His Divine ordainment.


Third: The Perspective of Mercy: And that Allaah's mercy with regard to this thing which He decreed supercedes His anger and vengeance


Fourth: The Perspective of Wisdom: And that it was Allaah’s infinite Wisdom that brought that about. He did not decree it in vain nor did He divinely execute it for no purpose.


Fifth: The Perspective of Praise: And that to Allaah belongs the complete and entire praise for that thing that was decreed, from all perspectives of it.


Sixth: The Perspective of Worship to Allaah (‘Ubudiyyah): And that he is a pure worshipper of Allaah from every standpoint. His Master’s Rulings and Decrees occur to him by virtue of his being Allaah’s possession and slave. So Allaah administers him under His decreed rulings just as He administers him under His religious rulings. So it (i.e. the decreed event) becomes a place for these rulings to occur to him.


6. Little success (from Allaah), bad views, unawareness of the truth, corruption of the heart, laziness in making dhikr, wasting time, distaste for the creation, estrangement between the servant and his Lord, the prevention of the supplication from being answered, hardening of the heart, the termination of blessing from ones provision and lifespan, the prevention of knowledge, being covered in debasement, humiliation at the hands of the enemy, constricting of the chest, prolonged grief and sorrow, a wretched life of poverty, and a gloomy state of being are all produced from sins and neglecting to remember Allaah just as crops are produced from water and burning from fire. And the opposites of these things are produced from obedience to Allaah.


7. If your mind would free itself from the governorship of your desires, the state would return back to it.


8. You have entered into the abode of desires, so you have put your life at stake.


9. It was once to said to one devout worshipper of Allaah: "Until when will you continue to exhaust your soul?" So he responded: "It is its relaxation that I seek."


10. The women of this world were made beautiful to those who can see in order to test which of them prefers them over the women of the Hereafter. So whoever knows the extent of differences, he will choose what deserves to be chosen

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  The National Council of Imams and Masajid
Posted by: Iftikhar - 11-10-2007, 11:18 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)



The National Council of Imams and Masajid


British Government has been frustrated that a large number of Imams were born and educated in Pakistan, speak limited English, but well versed in their mother tongues, Arabic, Urdu and Farsi, making it difficult for the Government to know what is going on in the Masajid. The drive to encourage British Muslims to become Islamic clerks and to teach English to Imams is planned by British establishment with the help of so called Muslim leaders. Imams were accused of being out me grown”. The home grown Imams are neither well versed in English nor in Urdu or in other community languages. The Imams from the Sub-continent must be freely allowed to come to satisfy the spiritual social and emotional.


In reality, Islam isn’t about beliefs, it’s also about culture and identity. According to BNP, Islam has become a toxic racial proxy. Atheists and fundamentalist Christians are using popular slogans to incite against Muslims whom they see as the new source of danger for Europe. Pope Urban 11 in 1099 called the faithful to join the first Crusade and expel the Muslims from the Holy Land. It is now high time to react once again and defend Western civilizations as well as everything else which is threatened by radical Koran-Islam. The modern Crusades plan to save western civilization from Islamisation. Islamophobia is a deliberate defamation of Islam and discrimination and intolerance against Muslims. It is the worst type of terrorism the world has ever witnessed. British education system has already eradicated the languages of the young generation of Muslims. Now the British establishment is trying to kick out Urdu and other community languages from the Masajid. Bilingualism is an asset and not a problem.


Education experts say that a celebration on community languages in schools is one way of riding Britain of its reputation as the world’s language “dunce” and promoting better relations between different ethnic groups. The study of such languages is considered important for the future health of the economy. Research by CILT shows a revolution in the take-up of non-traditional languages in secondary schools. Experts say promoting community languages could also persuade native Brits to take an interest in them. The linguistic map of Britain was changing, with multi-linguals spreading from typically multi-ethnic areas to more “traditional” parts. By encouraging children to develop their existing knowledge we will be building up an important skills base as well as raising educational achievement. There is a huge body of research testify to the benefits that bilingualism has for educational development. The future of Britain is multi-lingual, and this needs to be reflected in the school curriculum.


Unfortunately with the rise of anti-immigrant sentiment, racism and Islamophobia, bilingualism has been neglected and ignored intentionally. Article 29 of the Convention on the Rights of a child states that “the education of the child should be directed to the development of respect for the child’s parents, his or her own cultural identity, languages and values.” Article 30 states that “a child belonging to an (ethnic, religious or linguistic minority) should be educated in a manner that affirmatively acknowledges their native language abilities as well as ensures their acquisition of English. The Education Act of 1944 clearly states that children should be educated according to the needs and demands of the parents. The silent majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to state Muslim schools. Dcsf and OFSTED must take the responsibility that all schools must abide by the human rights issues.


Iftikhar Ahmad


www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

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  Waterboarding IS Torture, Mr. Bush
Posted by: Muslimah - 11-06-2007, 09:47 PM - Forum: General - Replies (1)


Waterboarding IS Torture, Mr. Bush


Waterboarding involves submerging the head of a captive in water and holding him down until he nearly drowns - and then yanking his head up, only to repeat the process again and again.


By Ibrahim Abdil-Mu'id Ramey


MAS Freedom Civil and Human Rights Director


WASHINGTON, D.C. (MASNET) Nov. 6, 2007 - "The presidency of George W. Bush has now evolved into a conspiracy to cover the a** of George W. Bush."


These words, uttered by syndicated television host Keith Olbermann, do not refer to some sinister plan to shelter the donkey on the President's ranch in Texas. On the contrary, they mean something far more important, not only to the executive branch of the government, but to the integrity of American law and morality.


Mr. Olberman, you see, interviewed Mr. Daniel Levin, a former Acting Assistant Attorney General under former AG Alberto Gonzales. In his attempt to find out how dangerous the technique of "waterboarding" actually is, he allowed himself to undergo this form of "enhanced interrogation", surrounded by medical and rescue personnel - confident that the waterboarding would not result in his death.


Mr. Levin's conclusion? Simply this: "Waterboarding is torture."


When Mr. Levin conveyed this message to his superiors in the Justice Department, he was promptly fired from his post.


There is now the façade of a national debate about waterboarding as an interrogation technique used by the U.S. military and covert intelligence agencies to extract information from captives deemed to be "terrorist suspects".


As you probably know, waterboarding involves submerging the head of a captive in water and holding him down until he nearly drowns - and then yanking his head up, only to repeat the process again and again.


Anyone who has ever nearly drowned will tell you the sheer terror of this barbaric act.


And the suspects held in Guantanamo, in Abu Ghraib, and in the nameless, faceless secret U.S. detention centers around the world, have no assurance that their torture will not end in death.


Both the President and Vice-President Cheney have declared that the United States does not torture captive combatants. In their convoluted logic, waterboarding isn't really torture, but a form of "enhanced interrogation". This pronouncement, straight from the mind of Machiavelli, allows them to sleep at night, thinking that just because a form of torture is called something else, most of the rest of us will believe it, too.


But Daniel Levin didn't believe them - and he was fired for telling the truth about one form of torture that is, in fact, used by the United States against Muslims deemed to be the "enemy".


Levin, Keith Olbermann suggested, is a real hero in the ongoing struggle for real justice.


The National Religious Campaign Against Torture (NRCAT), and numerous other human rights groups, have maintained a long and principled stand against waterboarding and numerous other forms of "enhanced interrogation".


Why the resurgence now in discussions surrounding the issue of waterboarding?


President Bush's nominee for Attorney General, Judge Michael B. Mukasey, refuses to declare his position on whether waterboarding is really torture.


Some Democrats may oppose Mukasey's confirmation on the floor of the U.S. Senate because of his refusal to make a declaration on the issue of waterboarding, but the majority of the Senate is likely to approve him anyway.


I doubt that Daniel Levin or Keith Olbermann would approve Mukasey's confirmation as U.S. Attorney General.


We should not approve Mukasey's confirmation either.


Regardless of what you call it, waterboarding is torture.


And the last time I checked, torture was still a violation of U.S. and international law - in addition to being an abomination in the eyes of the Creator.


We must not tolerate torture, or those in positions of authority who continue to allow torture to happen in the name of the people of this nation.


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Destroying Democracy in Pakistan is Not an Option


It is unthinkable that Muslims, and real democrats of any description, would allow Pakistan to devolve into becoming another Somalia - and in this case, a Somalia with nuclear weapons.


By Ibrahim Abdil-Mu'id Ramey


MAS Freedom Civil and Human Rights Director


WASHINGTON, D.C. (MASNET) Nov. 6, 2007 - As I write this commentary, Pakistan is imploding.


General/President/Dictator, Pervez Musharraf, has suspended the constitution of the nation. The supreme court, and parliament, have both been dissolved. Martial law has been declared, and more than 1,500 political opposition leaders, lawyers, and judges have been arrested. Thousands of citizens are battling police in the streets of Islamabad, and other cities across the country.


The chaos of constitutional crisis and autocracy now verge on catastrophe - a catastrophe in an unstable nuclear weapons state that, if left unaddressed, could spiral into the virtual disintegration of the nation itself.


All dictators have their own made-for-mass-consumption reasons for attempting to squash the fundamental democratic rights of their own people.


In the case of General Musharraf, the big, public card in his geopolitical hand is the (alleged) war against Islamic 'extremists' in Pakistan's remote northwest region. This is, of course, the primary glue that binds Pakistan to the global "war against terror", led and orchestrated by the United States.


The 'war against terror' is also the single most important factor in maintaining the personal relationship between General Musharraf and the ruling circles of the U.S. government, including his personal relationships with President Bush and Vice-President Cheyney, who guarantee the unrestricted flow of money and weapons to their Pakistani 'ally'.


But this time, the General may have overplayed his 'anti-terrorism' hand in his brutal attempt to end any semblance of real democratic rule in Pakistan.


By dismantling Pakistan's national judiciary, and throwing hundreds of political opponents in jail, Musharraf is saying, in effect, that any challenge to his autocratic rule only emboldens the supporters of Al Queda and the Taliban.


Is it in the national interest of the United States to tolerate Musharraf's attempt to destroy his opposition, and the democratic institutions of his country? The answer is an emphatic NO.


If left unchecked, the current crackdown will only result in a bloody civil conflict in Pakistan - possibly even civil war. If this happens, there is no guarantee that the entire Pakistani military will remain loyal to Gen. Musharraf. And any internal rebellion will leave open the unthinkable possibility that the control of Pakistan's small atomic arsenal might become compromised.


But a more probable scenario is the diminished possibility of an open, democratic electoral transition to a representative civilian government that is capable of addressing the myriad of divisions and contradictions in Pakistan. And that would leave the business of government to those political elements in Pakistan with the most guns - and the most money behind them.


It is unthinkable that Muslims, and real democrats of any description, would allow Pakistan to devolve into becoming another Somalia - and in this case, a Somalia with nuclear weapons.


The United States, which has supplied Musharraf with weapons, foreign aid, and international political cover, must not be allowed to remain on the sidelines while things in Pakistan become more bloody and desperate.


If America truly means what it proclaims to the world about respect for democracy and human rights, it must do now what is absolutely necessary to safeguard both.


The United States must immediately halt all military and foreign assistance to the government of Gen. Musharraf, and use all its power and prestige to persuade Gen. Musharraf to resign from office, thereby ending his personal onslaught against popular rule in Pakistan.


As I have stated previously, it is time for Gen. Musharraf to go. And that time is now more urgent than ever.


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  Holy Spirit and Jesus are ONE?
Posted by: wel_mel_2 - 11-06-2007, 08:12 AM - Forum: Discussion of Beliefs - Replies (17)


Bismillah: Assalamo Alikum.


I was surfing on the net as usual to collect some information regarding this topic and I found an interesting Christian website talking about <b>how Jesus pbuh was born</b>!! Here are some quotes.




Quote:290.010.000 Torrey: p287, T:I
Topic 10:How the Holy Spirit Worked in Jesus Christ.


290.010.010 Torrey: p287, T:I, P:1


POINT 10: Jesus Christ was begotten of the Holy Spirit.


Luke 1:35 The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.


In regeneration the believer is begotten of God; Jesus Christ was begotten of God in generation. He is the only begotten Son of God.

What the Bible Teaches.


<b>Please note: the article says that Jesus was begotten of the Holy Spirit, then few lines later it says Jesus was begotten of God. The words God and Holy Spirit are used synonymously here proving that God and the Holy Spirit are the same thing.
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So, as you can all see, this article clearly mentioned that JESUS CHRIST WAS BEHOTTEN OF GOD ALMIGHTY. But the Christians at the same time are telling us that Jesus pbuh is God Almighty. Not only that, but the Holy Ghost is also God Almighty, but they are not three separate Gods, the fact is, Christians say that; "<b>they are ONE SINGLE GOD</b>"


Christians also believe that Jesus is the only person who have raised <b>HIMSELF </b> from the dead after three days and three nights, but according to that website, it was the power of the Holy Ghost that raised Jesus from the dead and not Jesus, <b>or maybe they were also using the words Jesus and Holy spirit synonymously to prove that they are ONE AND THE SAME THING.</b>




Quote:POINT 90: Jesus Christ was raised from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

What the Bible Teaches.


Now in conclusion I would say:


<b>1- Christians believe in one God, sometime He is called Jesus, some times is called Holy Ghost, and sometimes He is called God the father, but the fact is they are all the SAME THING.</b>


2- Jesus (i.e God Almighty) was raised from the dead by the power of The Holy Ghost (i.e the same God Almighty). Don't be confuse
, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are ONE AND THE SAME THING.


Now, here is the shock: few days ago, I remembered <b>the Spirit/Holy Ghost (i.e. GOD Almighty)</b> who appeared to Mary to impregnate her according to Luke 1:35, then I asked myself, <b>was it Jesus Christ/God himself who visited Mary? Did Jesus BEING GOD and the same thing as the Holy Spirit, impregnate his own mother?</b>
JUST WOWWWW... :banghead:


<b>Look at the language of the Bible when explains HOW JESUS WAS BORN.</b>


The Holy Spirit will come upon you, (<b>I AM ASKING HOW</b>?)


And the power of the Most High will overshadow you. (<b>AGAIN HOW</b>)


So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.


Here we go, <b>the Holy Ghost CAME UPON MARY to impregnate her so that the "HOLY ONE" can be born. And at the same time Christians believe that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are ONE. </b>


According to Islam, the Almighty God forbade our mothers upon us.


"<b>Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers,</b> daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful;- (Quran, 4:23)"



Alhamdulelah who made us Muslims. Alhamdulelah for the favor of Islam.


In another post, insh a Allah I will explain what does it mean when Allah says that Jesus is <b>Allah's word and A spirit from Him</b>, does it mean that Jesus himself is part of God or God himself? What is the Word of Allah Almighty, and what is the Spirit of Allah Almighty? Was Jesus pbuh <b>all </b> of Allah Almighty's Word and Spirit, <b>or was he made from them?</b> The answer to these questions are mentioned in the Qur'an plainly, just stay tuned till next post insh a Allah.


Salam


Wael.

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  Do you have to wear a hat when praying
Posted by: Infoseeker - 11-05-2007, 08:33 PM - Forum: Islam - Replies (2)


Salaam Brothers and Sister


I pray to Allah that may he bless you and bring peace within you. and May Allah forgive me for the GREAT sins that i have commited and that he may grant me heaven one day inshallah.


my brothers and sister i want to know when praying do you have to wear a hat or can you pray with out a hat.

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  Nazarine discussions on paltalk
Posted by: Muslimah - 11-05-2007, 06:33 PM - Forum: General - Replies (2)


Bismillah


as salam alykom


I was so surprise, upset and amazed when I logged into a paltalk room run by Nazarine. I mean we do disagree certainly on our faith, yes, However, I really want to ask one of them or any other Nazarine, where in Quran or when did they encounter us slandering Essa prayer and peace be upon him, disrespecting his mother or any other Messenger and Prophet. Why all this slander? why all this hatered? Not once that on any Muslim boards which I m on that for example I read something like, pay a dollar and you pin a pin in the coffin of Christianity like I read them saying about Islam. Where did they encounter a Muslim making such comments. Leave alone that Muslims are constantly being accused of haterd and ....etc.


La hawal wala qowata ila billah.


Alhamdulelah I dont meet them either here or on other boards. Let them be restricted to their paltalk rooms.

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  Women's appearance
Posted by: khadeeja - 10-29-2007, 09:58 PM - Forum: Woman and family - Replies (12)

Are muslim women allowed to remove their facial hairs except their eyebrows?

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  Taxi to the Dark Side
Posted by: Muslimah - 10-29-2007, 07:19 AM - Forum: General - No Replies


Bismillah


as salam alykom


I receive the link to this video on an email, it is really worth watching and spreading around.


The film documents how Rumsfeld, together with the White House legal team, were able to convince Congress to approve the use of torture against prisoners of war. Taxi to the Dark Side is the definitive exploration of the introduction of torture as an interrogation technique in U.S. facilities, and the role played by key figures of the Bush Administration in the process.


Over one hundred prisoners have died in suspicious circumstances in U.S. custody during the "war on terror". Taxi to the Dark Side takes an in-depth look at one case: an Afghan taxi driver called Dilawar who was considered an honest and kind man by the people of his rustic village. So when he was detained by the U.S military one afternoon, after picking up three passengers, denizens wondered why this man was randomly chosen to be held in prison, and, especially, without trial?


Five days after his arrest Dilawar died in his Bagram prison cell. His death came within a week of another death of a detainee at Bagram. The conclusion, with autopsy evidence, was that the former taxi driver and the detainee who passed away before him, had died due to sustained injuries inflicted at the prison by U.S. soldiers.


The documentary, by award-winning producer Alex Gibney, carefully develops the last weeks of Dilawar’s life and shows how decisions taken at the pinnacle of power in the Bush Administration led directly to Dilawar’s brutal death.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e18635.htm

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  Sharh Al Aqeedah Al Wasiteeyah
Posted by: Hadji - 10-28-2007, 07:30 PM - Forum: Books you read - No Replies


Sharh Al Aqeedah Al Wasiteeyah -- by Ibn Uthaimeen


This is a great book. If you want to learn the basics of Islam then this book is a must. The original Al Aqeedah Al Wasiteeyah is a letter from Ibn Taymiyah to a town called Wasit. It's mainly a good batch of verses from the Qur'an, many hadeeths, and a small amount of commentary.


Ibn Uthaimeen, on the other hand, goes deep into explaining everything with great detail. He sometimes spends pages explaining the meanings of a single sentence.


The book focuses on setting a barrier between the true Islam and the innovations that were brought into it. A good portion of the book describes the attributes of Allah (swt). Then it talks about other issues with faith and the stance of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jama'a and compares it to the other sects.


So yeah, even though this book brings up a lot of things that may be basic, I believe that it is necessary for every person that really wants to learn the correct <i>aqeedah</i>.

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