Should the US troops leave Iraq now? And explain why you answered the way you did.

In all age groups, mortality rate is higher for men than for women.

Thus, there will always exist in monogamous societies husband less women. Society presents such women with limited choices. A husband-less woman has to choose one of the following.

Suppress her sexuality, sublimate and join the convent, or be a

spinster for life.

Flaunt her sexuality for material benefits, and be single for life.

Grab another woman's man and remain another woman for life

Grab another woman's man, and push her into the pool of husband less women.

Of course, she can change her mind any time. That is her prerogative!

But those are the options she has, or does she?

Islam has the solution, but one must set aside one's prejudices first. Right!

Islam permits polygyny to rectify the ills of the society.

[b:44ac3ade0c]It does not require that all men must have multiple wives. [/b:44ac3ade0c]Polygyny is permitted with certain conditions.

In India 82 girls are born to every 100 men. There is, statistically, less than a woman for every man. Polygamy will only exacerbate the problem.

On an individual basis, Polygamy can still not be outlawed.

But to insist that every man take up four wives would leave over sixty percent of the men without any prospects of marriage. Such a situation is fraught with grave danger.

Polygamy is allowed. To not do so would be to rob the society of a solution when women outnumber men.

However, when women do not outnumber men, or outnumber them marginally, encouraging men to take on more wives exacerbates the problem.

Islam solves problems, not creates them.

To suggest that polygamy is a must for Muslim men is a mockery.

Ahadith and Sunnah permit polygamy, not mandate it.

Allah had allowed certain practices for the prophet, which other believers were forbidden; certain deeds were obligatory for him, and only voluntary for other Muslims. Examples:

And prior to dawn, perform the tahajjud (non-obligatory) prayer at night. Your Lord may elevate you to the most exalted status (in heaven). 17:79

This (more than four wives) is an exemption especially for you, not for any other believer. We know what We have mandated for the believers concerning their wives, and the captive women. You are exempted so as to remove the difficulty you face! 33:50

Acting on any one hadith without regard to all the rest of them is fraught with difficulties.

For the first twenty five years of his married life, the prophet was

strictly monogamous. Does that mean all Muslims must be forced to lead a monogamous life for twenty-five years before being allowed to have two wives.

The notion that polygamy is absolutely required of a Muslim because the prophet practiced it is also a similarly flawed argument.

As salam Alykom all members

We have noticed lately some posts that are not compatible with the main theme we desire for this forum. Members slander each other and just post replies for the sake of posting.

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We are here to learn, help each other, share useful knowledge and Insh a Allah gain reward

[b:b3bd909d29]dear all,[/b:b3bd909d29]

God has said in the Quran:

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[b:b3bd909d29]<span>Those who have disbelieved and died in disbelief, the earth full of gold would not be accepted from any of them if one offered it as a ransom. They will have a painful punishment, and they will have no helpers. (Quran, 3:91)[/color:b3bd909d29][/b:b3bd909d29]</span>

<span>So, this life is our only chance to win Paradise and to escape from Hellfire, because if someone dies in disbelief, he will not have another chance to come back to this world to believe. As God has said in the Quran about what is going to happen for the unbelievers on the Day of Judgment:</span>

<span> [b:b3bd909d29]</span><span><span>If you could but see when they are set before the Fire (Hell) and say, “Would that we might return (to the world)! Then we would not reject the verses of our Lord, but we would be of the believers!” (Quran, 6:27)[/color:b3bd909d29][/b:b3bd909d29]</span></span>

<span><span>But no one will have this second opportunity.</span></span>

<span><span>[b:b3bd909d29]</span></span><span><span><span>The Prophet Muhammad said: {The happiest man in the world of those doomed to the Fire (Hell) on the Day of Judgment will be dipped in the Fire once. Then he will be asked, “Son of Adam, did you ever see any good? Did you ever experience any blessing?” So he will say, “No, by God, O Lord!”}1[/color:b3bd909d29][/b:b3bd909d29]</span></span></span>

<span><span><span>1) Narrated in Saheeh Muslim, #2807, and Mosnad Ahmad, #12699. </span></span></span>

<span><span><span>salam</span></span></span>

<span><span><span>wel_mel </span></span></span>

What is a Bible


The word Bible does not appear in Bible. Bible is a book of both the Jews and the


Christians. Muslims also believe in Moses and Jesus (Peace Be Upon Them). Muslims


also believe in the Message of Original Torah”[Original GospelBut since


Original Torah” and Original Gospel”[/u:5383caf5ba] have been lost by both Jews and Christians,


Muslims do not accept the existing version of Torah and Gospels as the real word of


GOD.


The present day Bible of Protestants is composed of 66 Books whereas the Bible


of Catholics have 73 Books. Some Books are as lengthy as 75 printed pages while


others are as short as one page or even less.


These 66 Books are divided into two Parts. First Part consists of 39 Books and is


called “The Old Testament”. The Second Part consists of 27 Books and is called “The


New Testament. (Or Testament One and Testament Two)


Though as a whole the Bible consists of 66/73 Books, but the Jews primarily


concern themselves with the very first 5 Books of the Old Testament. On the other


hand the Christians primarily concern themselves with all the 27 Books of the New


Testament. Out of these 27 Books, the first 4 are called the Gospels. (The Gospel of


Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). The remaining 23 Books were written by Paul and


others.


The original Torah must have been written in Hebrew language. Later day


editions were in Latin, Greek and English. Today once again the first- 5 books of the


Testament One, called the Torah are written in Hebrew language in Israel.


The original Gospel must have been in Aramic language which was a sister


Arabic language. Later day editions were in Latin and Greek and English languages.


Today Bible is available in hundreds of languages.

Assalamo Alikom,

By Ahmed Deedat:

Is Jesus The Same as GOD ???

In John 10:30 we find that Jesus says "I and my Father are one." This verse, according to Christians, shows clearly that God and Jesus Christ are the same. Also we read in John 20:17, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." Here Jesus clearly states that there is distinction between him and God. In other words that Jesus himself has a God. Also Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Here Jesus Christ cries in loud voice calling his God.

These are two different and opposite ways Jesus relates himself to God. The first one that he and God are one, and the second is that he refers to a higher authority than him which is his God. Now assuming that both are correct statements then we have a contradiction. If, for example, Jesus Christ was God himself as in John 10:30 then it would be more appropriate for him to say "...and to myself, and your God." in John 20:17, or "Myself, Myself, why hast thou forsaken me?" in Matthew 27:46. If, on the other hand, one of them is wrong and the other is correct then we have to discard the one that we believe to be incorrect. Since God does not make mistakes then we no longer believe that the Bible is the word of God (because we believe that there is a contradiction God's words).

A third possibility is that we have to look at how we can interpret the words of Jesus in those verses. As far as John 20:17 and Matthew 27:46 it is very clear that Jesus has a God whom he prays to and Whom has a higher authority than him. We can back this up with other verses from the bible that say, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." (John 5:30). Also Jesus says, "...for my Father is greater than I" (John 14:28). If Jesus and God were the same then he would not have said what he has said in the above verses. Now, the only verse that can be interpreted is John 10:30. It is the only one that does not render itself clear. The only way John 10:30 could be interpreted such that it does not contradict all the other verses is by saying that Jesus meant that he and God have something in common.

To find out what the common grounds are, we have to look at the context which this verse is in:

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

As can be seen from John 10:28 and John 10:29 that Jesus is telling the Jews that he and God share something in common, and that is; that no one can pluck the faithful from either of their hands. This is what is common between Jesus and God in this case, and not that Jesus is himself is God, or that they are exactly the same.

Let us go on to see what Jesus says in John 10:

John 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

John 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

John 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

John 10:39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

John 10:40 And went away again beyond Jordan

In John 10:31 we see that the Jews misunderstood what Jesus had meant by "I and my Father are one." (John 10:30). And in John 10:33 they accuse him of blasphemy. Now, had Jesus been God, or had he and God been one in a literal sense then he should not hesitate to clarify the matter at this point. Jesus at this point says, "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?" What he is trying to say that if you call "I and my Father are one" blasphemy then you should call what is written in your law "Ye are gods" blasphemy also. The reasoning here is that "Ye are gods" does not mean that you, the Jews, are Gods, it is rather an expression. It just means that you are godly people. The same with "I and my Father are one." It does not mean that I am God or that we are the same literally. It is just an expression. The same goes for calling himself "the Son of God." This statement should not be taken literally either.

The Holy Quran says, "...Nothing whatsoever (is there) like the like of Him, and He (alone) is All-Hearing and All-Seeing" (Ch 42: Vr 11). Nothing at all is like God, not Moses, not Jesus, not Muhammad, and certainly nothing of His creation.

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What About All These Verses?

After I discuss the above with my Christian brothers they ask me, "but what about the other verses that say Jesus is God?" and they show me some of them. Some of these verses are:

1. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

My Christians brothers here associate this verse to the words that God had said to Moses in the Old Testament when He said to him in Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." What Jesus said is similar to what God had said to Moses therefor they are the same. (Of course Jesus does not say explicitly that he is God here, and I could show that what he meant was not that he was God, but I will leave this for another discussion.)

2. Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Jesus here gives himself divine quality, being present as God.

3. Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Jesus here says that he is the first and the last. This is clearly a divine quality. Also he says that he has the keys of hell and of death. This is also a divine quality.

I really don't know how many more verse like these are available, but let us assume that there are more than that. I reply to them that what you showed me right now only backs me up even further, and before I explain how, I relate the following verse to them:

1. Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

It is shown here that God and only God and not the son (Jesus) has the knowledge of the time of the Judgment day. Jesus here denies his divinity (since God knows everything).

2. John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Here Jesus also says that his powers do not belong to him, and he alone, without the help of God, can do nothing. Again Jesus is denying divine qualities.

3. John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Here Jesus also denies any divine qualities. He (Jesus), without God can do nothing.

4. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Also,

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Here Jesus, in the first verse, says that he has a God, and in the second he cries out for his God. Surely God does not have a god. Jesus clearly shows that he has a God and that he is not divine.

5. John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

Jesus clearly states that no one had even heard God's voice, and not even seen his shape. This is Jesus talking, and his voice heard and his shape is seen to those he is with at the moment, so it must be not him that he is referring to as the Divine character, and that means that they (Jesus and God) are not the same.

6. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Here Jesus also says that God is greater that he is. Again he is disclaiming divinity.

7. Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

When a man referred to Jesus by good master, Jesus replied to him by saying that there is only one good which is God. If Jesus cannot even claim that he is good, then why should he claim that he is God?

These are all verses from the bible some show Christ to be God or having some qualities of God and others that show the he is not God and that he does not have divine qualities. Which are we to believe? Aren't these contradictions? I say to all my Christian brothers that brought me the verse that claim Christ's divinity, "now you have to explain to me how such a thing could be. What does all this mean?"

Salam

wel_mel

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asalam 3alykoum wara7mat alah wabarakato

dear brthers and sister: my friend have got a very big problem which has been thinking about for a week,she is about to take her scaff off because she is saying that she doesn't like n she is not wearing it for alah(S.W.T)but she is wearing it because ppl have been tellig her all diffrent stuff abt the day of judgment and how she will be panished if she doesn't put it on n theother reason is cuz all her friends have it on .

now she took it off when she goes outside but not 2 skwl cuz she doesn't wanna ppl 2 think that she is just playin games wiv it n specialy the stuff they wil think <wut kind of respect to religion they have got so she is wearing it to skwl but not outside> oh n i 4got to tell u the other thing is da even if she wears it to skwl but she wears like tops not down 2 her knees but her bum shows so plz tell me wut shoul i tell her or advice her to do. and specialy help me to convince her cuz everything i tell her she finds an other answer e.g she says u all the girls who wears hejab are arabic n thier parrents and all thier familly are like this and they have to do it so there is no problem and everything is organized for them like who they are gonna marry or even the british passport but her she is saying that all her family n friends n neighbours in her country no one at all wears it,actually they wear small tops n clothes worse than in uk .she said if she doesn't find a job to support her self n study ,then she is will be in troubles cuz all her brothers n sisters will leave her n no one will care abt her specialy if her parents dies before her so plz plz plz help me to convince her to do the right thing .

thnx and alah ya7fathkoum wa youdgazekoum khyran

Ibn Yunus (399 A.H. / 1009 A.D.)

- His Birth and Early Life:

- His name is Abu Al-Hasan bin `Abdul-Rahman bin Ahmad bin Yunus bin `Abd Al-A`la.

- He was born in Egypt in a respected family in Fustat, his great grandfather having been a companion of the famous legal scholar Al-Sahfi`i and his father being a distinguished historian and scholar of hadith.

- Since his childhood, Ibn Yunus received knowledge. Due to Ibn Yunus’ excellence in astronomy, Al-`Aziz Billah the Fatimid and his son Al-Hakim Bi’amr Allah encouraged him to proceed in his researches in astronomy and mathematics. They dedicated for him an observatory on the peak of Al-Muqattam hills near Cairo, which was equipped with the most modern observation tools.

- Ibn Yunus managed to observe the solar and lunar eclipses in 368 A.H. / 978 A.D.

- He reached the same results discovered by the astronomers of Baghdad. His astronomical tables were distinguished with meticulous calculations and attention to detail, what made them a reference to all later scientists.

- Important Achievements:

- He observed the solar eclipses in the years 368 A.H. / 977 A.D. and 369 A.H./ 978 A.D. These were the first eclipses to be reliably and accurately recorded in a scientific way.

- He determined the secular acceleration of the moon.

- He corrected many theories regarding the inclination of the zodiac, the atmospheric refraction of the sun’s rays and the equinox.

- He managed to resolve many intricate questions of astrometry.

- He was the first to consider secondary parentheses as an alternative of square roots that render mathematical questions very intricate.

- He contributed to making trigonometry as a separate science from astronomy.

- He initiated the tables of tangents and cotangents.

- He invented a new method to facilitate mathematical operations.

- The most important of his inventions was the pendulum.

- Ibn Yunus dedicated all his life in studying and observing the motion of planets.

- Among the most important works of Ibn Yunus in astronomy and mathematics are the following:

- Al-Zij Al-Hakimi (four volumes)

- Kitab Al-Zhill

- Ghayat Al-Intifa`

- Kitab Al-Mail

- Al-Ta`dil Al-Muhkam

- Al-Raqqas

- Tarikh A`yan Misr [/color:f996fb2015]

dear all, pls have idea.

[b:2ecb1a5f48]Quran & Science

How Old is the Earth?

The Bible provides a chronology of history that extends back to the creation of Adam and Eve and to the creation of the earth. From this chronology it is possible to determine the date of the creation and hence the age of the earth.

Archbishop Ussher of Armagh (1581-1657) had calculated the year of creation to be 4004 B.C. If that was not precise enough, Dr. Lightfoot of Cambridge worked out that the exact time when God completed His creation was 9a.m. on Friday, October 23, 4004 B.C. (see the book Thinking about God by Sr. R. W. Maqsood, p. 63).

Many religious groups and sects have used this date in predicting precise dates for the end of the world, but all such predictions have so far proved erroneous. The one fact against them is that the world is still intact and we are very much alive. One reason all of those predictions failed is that they are calculated from a false date of creation. If 4004 B.C. was the year of creation, that would make the earth less than six thousand years old. No scientist can accept this today.

Modern scientists estimate that the earth is 4.5 billion years old with a maximum error of 2.2 % (see The Bible, the Qur’an and Science, p. 148). Knowing this, many educated people lost faith in religion. They naturally felt that the Word of God should not contain errors of this kind. Others maintain that the Word of God was meant to teach only that truth which God wanted put into the scriptures for our salvation. It is therefore immaterial if the book contains historical or scientific errors.

As the scientist Galileo put it, the Bible is there to teach people how to go to heaven; it is not there to teach people how the heavens go. Some maintain, therefore, that it is understandable that the book will contain some historical and scientific errors since it was written by human beings who lived a long time ago and did not share our modern knowledge.

The Qur’an, on the other hand, does not contain any historical or scientific or any kind of error. God challenges us to test this claim by examining the book for ourselves (see Qur’an 4:82).

The Qur’an does not repeat the incorrect biblical chronology we have seen above. The Qur’an does not give a chronology since its purpose is not to provide us with the details of history, but only to teach us the lessons arising from specific events in history.

The Qur’an does, however tell us that God measured the sustenance of the earth in four periods (Qur’an 41:10). As to what could be the significance of these four periods, Dr. Bucaille comments as follows:

“One could perhaps see in them the four geological periods described by modern science, with man’s appearance, as we already know, taking place in the quaternary era. This is purely a hypothesis since nobody has an answer to this question” (The Bible, the Qur’an and Science, p. 150).

How did the author of the Qur’an avoid the mistake in chronology committed by so many others, and believed in by so many others even up to our present day? Could a man in the seventh century have known that the earth was much more than six thousand years old? How could he come by this modern knowledge unless God was revealing knowledge to him? God tells us that the Qur’an is His book and not the work of any man (see Qur’an 10:37).

[/b:2ecb1a5f48][/color:2ecb1a5f48]salam

wel_mel

bism Allah Alrahman Alraheem ,

I suggest , and in referer to the story of yaser and how he took from rasoolallah sala allah 3alieh wa sallam and because of my knowledge of how big the christians cross (alsaleeb ) affect the christian minds , TO SEND AND ADVERTISE pictures for the christian cross ( alsaleeb ) filled with blood and damaged in all his parts with the back ground of the damages and hell their bomb had made in the iraqi buildings.

and if possible to put real statues of the christian cross damaged and blooded on those places and to make a video on that and to publish it ,

hopfully this will stop or minimize this blooded war that is clearly nobody will benefit from it , and will fill the people with hate and anger and sorrow for such a tragady and such a part of history that we dont know where it will lead us to..

wallah min waraa alkasd.

peace.