This is a discussion I had from another forum.

Quote:Now since Allah 1) knows exactly what Christians believe, and 2) knows the exact nature of the doctrine of the Trinity, and 3) intended the Quran to convince the Jews and Christians of the error of their ways, why didn't he tell the Christians exactly what was wrong with their beliefs? What prevented him from saying, "The Christians are mistaken. Jesus is not of one substance with me. There is no three in one when talking about God, there is just one in one, God"?
But the Quran does not do that. Instead, the Quran falsely accuses the Christians of setting up a one of three Trinity, a Trinity of three gods ("They do blaspheme who say: Allah [God] is one of three in a Trinity.") Surah 5: 72-77).

Quote:According to the Quran, these three Christian deities consist of Allah or God, a different and separate "partner" god, which is Jesus, and then another god altogether. This third, separate entity is mistakenly assumed to be Mary, it seems, as Surah 5:116 has Jesus denying that he ever said to mankind:

Quote:And what about Mary? If indeed some or many Christians did or do mistakenly treat Mary like a God (and indeed, some seem to do that, e.g., Catholics, but not others, e.g., Protestants), that should make four Christian Gods, not three: The Father, the Mother, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Surely Allah knows the difference between three and four, yet nowhere does the Quran say that Christians worship four gods. It speaks of "the third of three," not "the fourth of four." This missing fourth God indicates that indeed, the writer of the Quran was ignorant of the Holy Spirit's place in the Trinity, and believed that Mary was this third god of the Trinity, and that the Christians worshipped these three gods.

More Sects


Druze


- Believe that Allah came down in the body of al-Hakim bi-Amrillah, and that a man named Muhammad .... (i.e. a Muhammad other than Muhammad ibn `Abdillah the Prophet of Islam) was his messenger to the Levant.


- Believe in reincarnation


- Believe that everyone had a chance to enter their religion hundreds of years ago, and that those whose souls refused may not any longer; hence no-one can enter their religion.


- Have a 'secret book' called "al-Hikmah."


Baha'is


1. Mirza `Ali Muhammad ("Bab"), born 1235 AH. Claimed to be the bab (precursor to the Mahdi) in, 1260. Arrested and imprisoned, then executed in 1265 AH.


2. Mirza Husayn `Ali ("Baha'ullah") was imprisoned for four months, then was released and fled to `Iraq in 1269 AH. Remained there 12 years inviting to his religion, then was exiled to Istanbul, and imprisoned for 5 years, after which he was moved to `Aka, where he died in 1309 AH.


Give esoteric meanings to the Qur'an.


Believe that they are a continuation of Islam!


Believe that the Hereafter is now!


Qadianis


Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, born 1252 H. descended from Mogul Tartars (Ya'juj and Ma'juj according to him). Punjab.


1.Claimed that he was :


(i) a reformer and the likeness of the Messiah (1306 H)


(ii) promised Mahdi and awaited Messiah; 'lexical prophet', 'shadow prophet', 'buroozi prophet'


(iii) non-legislating prophet and messenger


(iv) legislating prophet and messenger, challenged with signs, equated his 'inspiration' with the Qur'an.


2. Claimed to rival miracles of prophets and of the Last Prophet.


(i) Coincidence ofsolar and lunar eclipses in Ramadan


(ii) Marriage to 'Muhammadi Begum'


(iii) Mubahalah


3. Died in the toilet in 1326 AH.


Beliefs


denial of the Finality of Prophethood


denial of the lifting up and return of Prophet `Isa (peace be upon him), and of the coming of the Mahdi, and twisting these prophecies to indicate himself.


rejection of the angels


distortion of the plain meanings of Qur'an and sunnah to esoteric meanings


claim that the Shari`ah of Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) is repealed


that there is no more jihad


Sub-sects


Qadianis and Lahori Ahmadis.


"Nation of Islam"


History


Wallace Dodd Ford ("Master Fard Muhammad"), b. 1877 CE to a Jewish mother. Con-man and convicted drug-dealer. Released from prison in 1929. Appeared in Detroit in 04/07/30. Forced out by police, and moved to Chicago. Later disappeared on 02/26/34.


Elijah Poole Muhammad, b. 1897 CE in GA. Moved to Detroit in 1923. Joined Ford in '31, and studied with him for 3.5 years. Established 'Final Call' newspaper in '34. Established schools. Imprisoned for refusing to fight in WWII, released after that. Formed the NOI's bliefs, drawing from Masonry, Christianity, Islam. d. '75.


Malcolm X joined NOI, and was promoted to National Spokesman in the '50s. Louis Farrakhan joined in '55. Malcolm X left NOI in '64 and embraced Islam; he was assassinated in '65. Farrakhan was promoted to National Representative.


After Elijah's death, Farrakhan took over the NOI. Persisted upon Elijah's path. Went to Makkah in '85! Claimed to have met Elijah Muhammad in a UFO ('89 and '90); Million-Man March 10/16/95.


Elijah's son, Warith al-Deen (Wallace) Muhammad, broke away after his father's death. and formed his own 'ministry'. Called for the formation of his own madhhab. Considered it permissible for Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men.


Beliefs and Practices


That Fard Muhammad is Allah, Mahdi and Messiah!


That the Qur'an was actually intended for Elijah Muhammad!


That Elijah Muhammad is the Last Prophet and Messenger of Allah, and that he is still alive!


That black people are originally from the moon, and are gods, and that white people are devils, who were created by a black scientist 6600 years ago!


That a spaceship will come and rain down on white people, saving the blacks.


That Resurrection and Heaven are symbolic.


That prayer is not valid without Elijah Muhammad's name mentioned in it!


That war is absolutely prohibited, and that the government should be obeyed.


They fast in December, and do not perform salah.


"Submitters"


The following material was extracted directly from their own online information.


History


Rashad Khalifa, b. 1935 CE. Biochemist be profession. Made a 'translation' of the Qur'an and called it the "Authorized English Version." Announced 'mathematical miracle of the Qur'an' in '74, and claimed to have discovered that 2 verses had been added. In 1408 AH, claimed to Messenger of Allah. Assassinated in 1990.


Beliefs and Practices


that the Qur'an was corrupted, just like other scriptures!


that the Qur'an is the only source of legislation, and that hadith is corrupted and unacceptable!


emphasis on numerology (based on the number 19) as a means of deduction of facts and legislation.


that Allah did not order Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him) to sacrifice his son.


that Muslims idolized Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his Household).


that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) died.


that Rashad Khalifa was a Messsenger of Allah!


that the computer is the Beast of the Earth, that Ya'juj and Ma'juj will appear in 2271 CE, and that the end of the world will be in 2280 CE.


that Hell is not yet created.


that Islam is based on the Qur'an and the religious practices of Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), but that these were corrupted by people.


that the age of responsibility is 40.


that adulterers are not stoned, and that thieves do not get their hands amputated.


that hijab is not a religious practice.


The Batinis


O Muslims! Allah has sent down to you the Qur'an as a clear, plain and straightforward book. The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) clarified the contents of the Qur'an and expanded on their details. He, too, spoke in straightforward speech, not in riddles or vague allusions. This fact, although intuitive and self-evident to those of sound mind and disposition, nevertheless escapes others, who are misled by outrageous, fanciful distortions of the plain meanings of the sacred texts such that they interpret them in a manner not allowed for by the language or the context. Therefore, let us present a brief selection of the textual evidences for this, along with related warnings on not interpreting the Qur'an based on whims:


1. From the Qur'an (exact refs. available if desired, inshaAllah):


"and this is plain Arabic language."


"Those are the signs of the Plain Book."


". . . . after we made it plain for people in the Book . . . . "


"A book whose verses/signs have been made decisive, and then detailed."


"What is the matter with these people, that they can scarcely understand speech?"


"Those who commit in Our signs are not hidden from Us. Is then he who is cast into the Fire better, or he who comes safe on the Day of Resurrection?"


Ibn `Abbas said, "They are those who put words into other than the meanings their [proper] places."


From the Sunan and Athar:


And the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) has said, "Whoever spoke about the Qur'an from his [own, unfounded] opinion, or from that whereof he had no knowledge, let him seek his place in the Fire."


'Umar used to say, "Which sky would cover me, or which earth would shelter me, if I were to speak about the Book of Allah without knowledge?"


From the sayings of the scholars:


Mulla `Ali Qari says, in his supplement to Sharh al-Fiqh al-Akbar, "The texts of the Qur'an and Sunnah are taken according to their outward, literal meanings, apart from the well-known difference between the former (salaf) and latter (khalaf) generations regarding interpretation of the allegorical divine attributes."


Similarly, `Abdul-Haqq al-Dehlawi says in "Takmilat al-Iman" that distorting the texts from their outward meaning, in the manner of the Batinis, is heresy and unbelief.


We proceed now to address this terrible disease, spiritual in scope and devastating in consequence; the disease of heretical 'interpretation'. When the enemies of Islam realized they could not distract the Muslims from the Qur'an and sunnah, they transferred their efforts to another, far more devious scheme: they tried to divert them from the true meanings of the sacred texts. This ploy is far more horrendous and devastating in its effects, for once such ideas take root in the minds of the deluded, they shackle the individual into bondage which he himself struggles to retain. His devil hinders him from the Path, while he thinks that he is actually rightly-guided.


"Say : Shall We inform you of those who are the worst losers with regard to their deeds? Those whose efforts are wasted in the life of the world. while they think that they are [actually] doing good." [al-Kahf]


It is in this light that Shaykh `Abdullah al-Ghumari says, in "al-qawl al-jazl fee-maa la yu`adh-dhar feehi bil-jahl," that among that ignorance which is not excusable is ignorance about the reality of some fundamental parts of the doctrine, such as the resurrection of bodies, the fact that the world had a beginning, and that Allah knows even the minute details of things. Therefore, he mentions, those philosophers who denied such things are not excused, even if they prayed and fasted, and thought they were Muslims, and even if they spent their entire lives trying to understand these things rationally, but were unable to. This is because such doctrinal fundamentals must be accepted even if we cannot picture, imagine or justify them on rational axioms.


The Batinis played with the words of Allah, drawing on the works of the heretic philosophers, and planted their venomous heresy into the minds of the neglectful and wretched, where they found fertile soil. They claimed that they had received insight into the "inner" meanings of the sacred texts, and they scorned the Islam of the Companions, viewing them as simpletons who had not progressed beyond the "outer" meanings. "And, when they are told, 'Believe as the people have believed!' they say, 'Shall we believe as the fools believe?' Indeed, they are the fools, but they do not realize." [al-Baqarah]


In this manner, the Batinis proceeded to try to demolish the entire religion.


The term Batini is a general, descriptive name given to all sects who rely upon the perverted methodology we have mentioned above. They include the Qaramitah and the Isma`iliyyah of earlier origin, and the Qadianis and Bahais of more recent times. Yet, the Batini approach is not always encountered in a clear form and with a distinct sectarian identity. There is another category of people among whom it has its traces and manifestations. They are individuals still donning the outward guise of mainstream Islam. Their faith is so weak that they force themselves to justify everything in the religion practically and rationally. Failing that, they resort to distortion of the meanings of the texts so as to mould them around their mentality and outlook. Others among them may not be as deficient in faith, but are impatient and presumptuous. They try to fit the Qur'an to every new event and scientific discovery they encounter.


"Mankind is a creature of haste. I shall show you My signs, so do not be impatient."


Beware of this approach, brothers and sisters! Remember that the texts of the Qur'an and sunnah are straightforward, and their import is clear and literal (except where it is unquestionably indicated otherwise), as we mentioned at the start of this discourse. Having considered and appreciated this, you will realize the fallacy of the opinions of the heretic philosophers who claimed that Heaven and Hell are merely states of mind after death, and that there is no resurrection of the bodies.


Similarly, you will spurn the 'interpretations,' from these philosophers and other ignorant and misguided individuals, of the Signs of Judgement Day, such as their saying that the Rising of the Sun from the West is merely indicating a state of upheaval and inversion of matters, and that the Dajjal (False-Messiah) is merely an indication of a general state of deceit and fraud. And, knowing the clear descriptions of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) and their activities when they will break loose upon the earth as a portent of Judgement Day, you will realize the falsehood of any notions suggesting that they were none other than the Mongols, or that they are merely an indication of the control of mankind by super-powers, and that therefore we are living in the midst of Ya'juj and Ma'juj today.


So, recognize the truth, brothers and sisters, for it stands clear on its own.


"Say : The truth is from your Lord, so let whoever wishes believe and whoever wishes disbelieve." [al-Kahf]


Do not be misled into the heretical ways of the philosophers. Realize, however, that some of the Sufis delight in speaking in allegories and riddles. They will give 'commentary' on sacred texts which in reality is not a commentary, but merely a voicing of thoughts or parallels which the verse or hadith brought to mind, albeit on a thread similar to that of the text in question.


So, to speak, for example, about a general state of fraud and deception in connection with the texts on the Dajjal does not by itself constitute heresy, as long as the person is not denying the literal reality of the Dajjal as a one-eyed man of Jewish origin, who will claim divinity and exhibit wondrous feats, for it is conceivable, although not necessary, that the Dajjal should emerge at a time when fraud and deception are rampant, such that he be an individual typifying that situation. Similarly, to draw parallels between the despotism of Ya'juj and Ma'juj on the one hand, and that of today's super-powers, is not by itself disbelief, as long as one accepts the literal reality of the Emergence of Ya'juj and Ma'juj, as described in the Qur'and and authentic hadith. However, it is essential to accept the literal realities of these things, and to make them plain to people before attempting to offer philosophical insights.


And Allah guides to the straight path, and there is no strength nor power without Allah.

Hello,


My name is Djana. I am a muslim from Bosnia Herzgovina. I don't understand why all you women ruin your appearance with such things as hijaab and robe. Why? It seems that only the die hard muslims do this like in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan and so on.


European muslims are different. There is not pressure for us to do this here. Do you women feel pressured to cover up? Do you even have a choice? Is Bosnia or Serbia or Turkey, we are proud of our religion but we are modern in our dress too. When I visit the rest of Europe and I tell them I am a muslim, they judge me. If all muslims were understanding like the one in Europe our religion would have such a better repuation.


Thanks,


Djana

A Husband's Responsibilities Towards His Family


The family is that brick which forms the foundation of a society. It is composed of individuals that have permanent relations established between them. Most importantly, it possesses almost a majority of the different kinds of personal relations. Because of this, there must be certain etiquettes placed in order to control and regulate these relations. This is such that it can be maintained in the best possible manner, and so that it can generate and produce its proper fruits. Family relations consist of the relationship between the spouses from one perspective, the relationship between the parents and the children from a second perspective, and the relationship between the children themselves from a third perspective.


Etiquettes Of The Husband


1. It is not from the deficiencies, but rather from good manners, that the husband shares in the responsibility of specified matters, such as the mending of garments or what is similar to that.


2. It is appropriate for a man to not restrict himself from serving himself. This is since the wife takes care of the household affairs. So therefore, it is from good manners that the husband extend a helping hand to his wife in the house, during times of necessity, such as when she is sick, pregnant, has given birth or similar to that.


3. The exemplary husband is he who cooperates with his wife by bearing good relations and showing kind manners (to her), according to the full extent of the meaning contained in these (last) two expressions. Truly, the husbands who are best at working alongside their wives are the best of mankind in the view of Islaam. This good way of living between the spouses must be deeply imbedded into the daily marital life, even at the time of divorce.


4. Beware of characterizing the relationship between the spouses with over-seriousness! For indeed characterizing the family life with a militaristic nature amounts to one of the causes for failure and bad results.


5. From the kind and noble manners of the husband is that he complies and assents to the requests of his wife, so long as they are not forbidden in the Religion. And being luxurious in food, drink and clothing is at the entrance of matters forbidden in the Religion.


6. The husband should specify a time in which he can play around and pass free time with his wife.


7. The relationship between the spouses must contain one singular and specific nature. And it cannot be this way unless the couple begins demolishing all the obstacles and impediments that stand between them. For example, the husband should not feel timid and restrain himself from drinking out of the same cup that his wife drinks out of.


8. There is no human being that is perfect. So there is no doubt that the husband will see things in his wife that does not comply with his natural disposition and preferences. If these aspects are not in opposition to the fundaments of the Religion or to the obedience of the husband and his rights, then at that point, he should not try to change her personality so that it complies with his natural preference.


9. And he must always remember that for each member of the couple, there will be an aspect of ones personality that conflicts with the others personality. And he should also remember that if there are some characteristics that he doesn't find pleasing in his wife, then indeed she has other characteristics, which will definitely be pleasing to him.


10. Do not let Ramadaan be a barrier that impedes you from showing affection to your wife, such as by kissing her. But this is so long as you are able to refrain yourself, since what is forbidden during the days of Ramadaan is only sexual intercourse.


11. Do not chase after the errors of your wife and recount them to her, for too much blaming and reprimanding will worsen the relationship between the two of you, and it will pose a threat to your marital life. So overlook your wife's easy ability to make mistakes, and make her falling into them seem like something small.


12. If you are able, do not hold back from providing your wife with good clothing and food, and from being generous in spending money on her. This is of course according to the extent of your ability.


13. Do not give little importance to implementing the punishment required for any acts in opposition to the Religion, which your wife has committed, whether it is in the home or outside it. This should be the main reason that causes you to become angry, thus no other reason should affect you (besides this one).


14. What has been stated previously does not mean that you should leave matters alone until that result comes to happen. Thus, whenever you realize that a matter is left alone, weigh it with seriousness and determination, without being too harsh or rude about it.


15. The woman is the head of the household, the one responsible for it. So do not attempt to meddle into affairs that do not fall into your area of duties and responsibilities, such as the food and the order of the house.


16. Beware of scolding your wife or blaming her for a mistake she committed, in the presence of others, even if they are your own children. For indeed that is an act that goes against correct behavior and it will lead to raising anger in the hearts of people.


17. If you are forced to place punishment upon your wife, then let it be by staying away from her at bedtime. And do not boycott her except that it is done within the household. And avoid using foul language, insulting her, beating her and describing her with repulsive names. For these matters do not befit an exemplary husband.


18. Having jealousy and caring about the modesty of your wife is a praiseworthy thing, which shows your love for her. However it is on the condition that you do not go to great extremes in this jealousy. For then at that point, it would turn into something worthy of no praise.


19. Entering the house: Do not alarm your family by entering upon them suddenly. Rather, enter while they are aware of it, and greet them with Salaam. And ask about them and how they are doing. And do not forget to remember Allaah, the Mighty and Sublime, when you enter the house.


20. Beware of spreading any secrets connected with the intimate encounters you have with your wife, for that is something restricted and forbidden.


21. Constantly maintain the cleaning of your mouth and the freshening of your breath.


22. Guardianship of your wife doesn't mean that you can exploit what Allaah has bestowed upon you from taking charge of her, such that you harm and oppress her.


23. Showing respect and kindness to your wife's family is showing respect and kindness to her. And this applies even after her death, on the condition that it is not accompanied by an act forbidden in the Religion, such as intermingling of the sexes or being in privacy (with them).


24. Too much joking will lead to (your family having) little fear (of disobeying you) and a lack of respect for you. So do not joke too much with your wife.


25. Be considerate that fulfilling the conditions which you promised to your wife during the pre-marriage agreement is a matter possessing the highest of importance and priority. So do not neglect that after getting married.


26. When you lecture your wife or reprimand her or simply speak to her, choose the kindest and nicest of words and expressions for your speech. And do not reprimand her in front of others or in front of your children.


27. It is not proper for you to ask your wife to look for work outside of the house or to spend upon you from her wealth.


28. Do not overburden your wife with acts that she is not able to handle. Consider, with extreme regard, the environment she was raised up in. Rural service is not like urban service, and the service of a strong woman and her preparation for it is not like the service of a weak woman.


29. There is nothing in the obligation of a woman's service to her husband that negates his assisting her in that regard, if he should find the free time. Rather, this is from the good manners of living between the spouses.


- Dr. Marwaan Al-Qaisee

scene one : external : outside view of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai.


time summer 623 C.E.


scene two : internal : inside a dark room in St. Catherine Monastery.


the candels light refelct on 10 or maybe 11 monks in the dark room..you can notice they are worried as they were waiting for the patriarch to finish his prayer to tell him why he called for this meeting. there were rumours in the Monastry that the Arab traveller who stopped by the Monastry this morning gave the Patriarch a message from someone important.


Monk 1: <whispering> do you think this meeting has something to do with the Arab vist this morning?


Monk 2: <whisper back> i bet it is, look at the table...there is a message on it..i'm sure...


the Patriarch finish his prayer and turn to the monks...he look at their faces to make sure they are all here.


the Patriarch : sure you wonder why i called for this meeting and why here


a Monk : the Arab traveller message!??


the rest of monks look at him in disgust..how dare you to interrupt the Patriarch?


the Patriarch wave his hand...its ok sons..i know you are worried about the message..its from a man called Mohammed, he say he is the prophet of God!


the Monks look at each other in surprise..only one of them doesn't seem to be surprised.....Gerogeos..the youngest of all Monks in the church and the most brilliant..he is from a small village in upper Egypt and his parents sent him to the Monsatry ever since he was 13 years old.


the Patriarch : Gerogeos my son...you are with us?


Gerogeos : maybe its him!!


the Patriarch : what are you talking about


Gerogeos : the desert man..the Arab...one of Ishmael sons..maybe he..


the Patriarch interrupt him : Gerogeos!!....we are not here to discuss the man prophethood, we are here to read his message!


Gerogeos : <looking at the floor> sorry father!


the Patriarch : move forward luke..read the man message


as Luke is moving forward to hold the message from the table everyone in the room were thinking..."war declaration or what?".."can the Pagan Arabs be better to us than the christian Brutal Romans!!?"


Luke take the message and start reading.


<b>This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.</b>


the Patriarch showed no reaction..like an ice berg was his face....but you can noticed the sings of relief on the monks faces..esepcially Luke....and Gerogeos eyes were shining like he is waiting for something


<b>Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because </b>


Luke smile like a child and look at the Patriarch and the monks and say : they will defend us!!!...they are willing to defend us!!


the Patrirarch give him a cold look and say : complete the message.


Luke blush a bit and continue reading


<b>Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. </b>


No compulsion is to be on them.


Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.


No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses.


Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.


No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.


The Muslims are to fight for them.


If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.


Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.


No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).





Luke finsih the message and roll it and gave it back to the Patriarch as his eyes was screaming of happines....even the Patriarch smiled...one of the Monks raise his hands to sky and scream with tears in his eyes "Thanks Jesus for sending us a saint to save us from the Romans oppression!!" 5 monks joined him saying the same words enthusiasticly.....the atmosphere of happines in the room was cheering all that was happening as Gerogeos was looking nowhere..his brain was racing and so was his heart..his lips was moving to say something...not heard or noticed by the monks but his voice became more clear..forcing them to be silent and look at him in shock..he was saying.."the man is a prophet not a saint"...one seconds or two before one or two monks asked "what?"..he pointed a finger at them in said "the man is a prophet...a prophet" and rushed out of the room.


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From : Islam in the land of pharaons.


version : bad transaltion


the charter is a historical fact.

As salamu aleykum wr wb


Peace and blessing of Allah swt be upon you all Muslims.


I have come online to ask a question. My dear sister is in need. She feels like the shame of her family concerning the sins she had done which she is so ashamed to speak about. She hasnt revealed it to anybody except me and does not want anybody to know about it. I try to confort her saying that Allah swt is ever Forgiving but even though she is well aware, she cannot make herself believe that. I understand why she is ashamed but this hatreat for herself has, sometimes, put a barrier between her and Allah swt. I can see that she feels sometimes that she is one of those who are destined for Hell-Fire. I don't know what to say to her anymore. At times, when she is okay and follows Islam normaly, she gets these flashbacks and suddenly falls into hatreat and regret. She keeps praying that her sins will not be revealed. I don't know how to make her believe that she too can be forgiven as long as she hasnt done any shirk (which she hasn't). Please give me some advice to tell her before she loses hope for good and leaves Islam thinking that she isn't deserving of the truth and then commits suicide.


I urge you, plz give me advise.


As salamu aleykum wr wb

asalaam alaikum


i have small forums board but it will grow inshallah. i hope you dont mind me putting my link here http://www.4muslims.org and i will also link your room.

Assalamu alaikum,


I have read a little about Sufism and see where the practice definitely includes bida. However, I have spoken to brothers who claim that there is a form of Sufism that does not incorporate any bida; one described himself as "a Sunni and a Sufi."


Can anyone explain to me how this is possible, or if it is not, how someone might be misled to believe this is possible?


Also, it seems to me that in his writings Al-Ghazzali seems to support some form of Sufism, or at least the notion that there is an "elite" that has greater access to guidance than others. Am I misunderstanding something?


Allah Hafiz

its in Arabic..read it here


http://news.masrawy.com/masrawynews/0907...56news.htm


in brief : a Jordanian 13 days old baby say the Shahada everytime he hear the Adhan!!!...Subhan Allah..i know people as old as 30 and don't even notice the Adhan!


P.s : i'd really appericate English translation of the article or a link to the article in English.

http://thetruereligion.org/modules/ipboard...hp?showtopic=50


Question


Salam ...


It's some quote from one person who has said :


"...that "No man comes to the father except by me", and I do not believe that Jesus is a liar". "Jesus did make one claim that was rather revolutionary to say the least. He claimed to be the Son of God, and that "any who have seen me have seen the Father." Jesus as He claimed was more than just a prophet. He was born for the purpose of saving the world....and that includes people of all religions. His death and resurection would be a total waste outside of this context."


If anyone can Answer to refute so I may respond to that person from whom I received.


Answer 1


Bissmillah Al Rahman Al Raheem


Praise be to Allaah, we seek His help and His forgiveness. We seek refuge with Allaah from the evil of our own souls and from our bad deeds. Whomsoever Allaah guides will never be led astray, and whomsoever Allaah leaves astray, no one can guide. I bear witness that there is no god but Allaah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger.


We Muslims can not be a muslim if we are not believing in Son of Marry Eisa, he took miraculas birth without father having mother, as Adam alaihe assalam created by dust without father and mother.


Now your question IS JESUS SON OF GOD


If Jesus is the only son of God (Allah Forgive us) as all christians are quoting from Bible for the Divine sonship:


Mathew 3:17; "And lo a voice for heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased"


this is the only verse they used as a proof for divine sonship, then there should be no other verse that contradicts or give equal divine sonship to another person or persons in the Old or New Testament. However, many references were found in the Old and New Testaments that mentioned someone other than Jesus as having a divine sonship to God


Kindly open the Bible and see


Exodus 4:22


Israel is my son, even my firstborn


II Samuel 7:14


I Chronicles 22:10


... and he shall be my son (Solomon)


Jeremiah 31:9


Psalm 2:7


... and Ephraim is my firstborn


The word "Son" must not be accepted literally because God addresses many of his chosen servants as son and sons. The Jews have also claimed Ezra to be the Son of God.


The New Testament Greek words used for "son" (Pias and paida which mean servant, or son in the sense of servant)


Further the term "Father" as used by Jesus corresponds more closely to the term Rabb, i.e. one who nourishes and sustains, so that Jesus' doctine God is "Father" - Nourisher and Sustainer - of all men.


The New Testament also interprets "son of God" to be allegorical: "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."


Romans 8:14 This allegorical suggestion is further supported with Jesus being called the only begotten Son of God (May Allah forgive us)


In Psalm 2:7, the Lord said to David


"Thou art my Son; this day have begotten thee."


Does this mean that God had two sons?


Jesus also said that God is not only his Father but also your Father see


Mathew 5:45,48 and


Luke 3:38 says


...Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the Son of God."


Who is mentioned in Hebrews 7:3 as like unto the Son of God?


It is Melchisedec, King of Salem, as mentioned in Hebrews 7:1 (Melchisedec) is more unique than Jesus or Adam. Why is he not preferred to be the Son of God? Moreover, Adam did not have a mother or father, but was the first human being created by God and in the likeness of God to exist in the Garden of Eden and on earth. Wouldn't this give more rights to Adam to be called the son of God in its truest meaning?


I would like to share with you an obvious contradiction between Jhon 3:16 Luke 10:25-28 and Matthew 19:16-17., if you read these verses then it tells us that inheritance of eternal life is for everyone who believes and sorship no other God, but the One true God.


And there is so much...


Answer 2


The Reality of Jesus, peace be upon him


Without a doubt, you have often heard the claim that Jesus is God,


the second person in the "Holy Trinity". However, the very Bible


which is used as a basis for knowledge about Jesus and as the basis


for doctrine within Christianity clearly belies this claim.


We urge you to consult your own Bible and verify that the following


conclusions are not drawn out of context:


1. God Is All Knowing.....But Jesus Was Not


When speaking of the Day of Judgement, Jesus clearly gave evidence of


a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour


knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the


son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36) But God knows all.


His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own


admission, did not know when the Day of Judgement would be, is clear


proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not


God.


2. God Is All-Powerful.....But Jesus Was Not


While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the


power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he


said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of


himself, but what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19). Again he


said, "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my


judgement is just; because I seek not mine own will but the will of


the Father which has sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only All-


Powerful, He is also the source of all power and authority. That


Jesus, of his own admission, could do nothing on his own is clear


proof that Jesus is not all-powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not


God.


3. God Does Not Have A God.....But Jesus Did Have A God


God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call


upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was


One whom he worshipped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend


unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John


20:17). He is also reported to have cried out while on the cross, "My


God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were


God, then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou


forsaken me?". Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the


Lord's Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the


garden of Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let


this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt."


(Matt. 26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own


admission and by his own actions, acknowledged, worshipped, and


prayed to another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is


not God.


According to the Bible, God is an invisible spirit....


4. But Jesus Was Flesh And Blood


While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said


that this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen


God at any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at


any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John


4:24: "God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in


spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or


heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is


clear proof that Jesus was not God.


NO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM...


BUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED


SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF WHOSE...


5. Will Was Distinct From His Own


Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not


equal, and therefore not one and the same, comes again from the mouth


of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28: "My Father is greater than


I." When someone referred to him as a good master in Luke 18:19,


Jesus responded: "Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one,


that is God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between


himself and God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God,


neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42) Jesus gave


clear evidence of his subordination to God, rather than his equality


with God, when he said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done"


and in John 5:30, "I seek not mine own will but the will of the


Father which has sent me." That Jesus would admit that he did not


come into the world on his own initiative but was directed to do so,


that he would acknowledge another being as greater than himself, and


that he would negate his own will in deference to affirming the will


of another, give clear proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and


therefore Jesus is not God.


ConclusionThe Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge


about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is


not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what


basis have you come to believe otherwise?


The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and


completely inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the


Bible. God is one, not three. He is a perfect unity.


If you are interested in the truth about God and your relationship to


Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.


What Is The Word Of God About Jesus:


A. Regarding The Sonship Of Jesus:


"Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth about


which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of)


Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines


a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is."


Chapter 19, Verses 34-35


"They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have


put forth a thing most monstrous! At if the skies are ready to burst


the earth to split asunder and the mountains to fall down in utter


ruin. That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. For it


is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He


should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the


earth but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a servant."


Chapter 19, Verses 88-93


"This similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam: He created


him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was."


Chapter 3, Verse 59


"O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say


of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more


than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and


a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles.


Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is


One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son.


To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is


Allah as a Disposer of affairs."


Chapter 4, Verse 171


B. Regarding Jesus Being God:


"And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say


unto men `worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"?


He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right


(to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it.


Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine.


For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them


aught except what Thou didst command me to say to wit `Worship Allah


my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt


amongst them; when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over


them and Thou art a Witness to all things." Chapter 5, Verses 116-117


C. Regarding Crucifixion Of Jesus


"That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave


false charge. That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ Jesus the


son of Mary the Apostle of Allah"; but they killed him not nor


crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who


differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but


only conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not. Nay


Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise.


And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him


before his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness


against them."


Chapter 4, Verses 156-159


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translation of "The Meaning of the Holy Qur'an", published by Amana


Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, USA, 1993


All Biblical quotations have been taken from The Holy Bible


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Jesus (Peace be upon him) was but a humble Prophet of Allah


Ibn-al-Qayyim(may Allaah have mercy on him) poetically states:


O worshippers of the Messiah, we have a question, to which we want an


answer from the one who understands it.


If a god dies because of the actions of people who kill him, what is


this god?


Is he pleased with what they did to him? Then they must be lucky for


they have earned his pleasure.


If he is displeased with what they did to him, their power has


nevertheless overwhelmed his.


Did the universe remain without a god who hears all and answers those


who call upon him?


Were the seven heavens left with no god above them when he was buried


in the ground?


Was this universe left with no god to look after it when his hands


were nailed (to the cross)?


How could this god be forsaken by all his creation when they heard


him weep?


How could this wood bear the true god who was tied to it?


How could iron come close to him and penetrate him and wound him?


How could the hands of his enemies reach him when they struck the


back of his head?


Was the Messiah brought back to life or is the one who revived him


another god?


What a strange grave it is that could contain a god. What is even


stranger is that a womb could contain him,


Where he remained for nine months, nourished from blood,


Then he emerged from the vagina as a tiny baby, opening his mouth and


seeking the breast,


Eating and drinking, with the inevitable consequences thereof. Is


that a god?


Exalted be Allaah above the fabrications of the Christians. He will


question them all about the lies they told.


O worshippers of the cross, for what reason is that thing (the cross)


venerated?


Rationally speaking, it should be broken and burned.


If god was crucified upon it by force and his hands nailed to it,


Then the thing used for that purpose should be cursed and trampled


upon, not kissed when you see it.


How can the Lord of the Worlds be humiliated on it, then you go and


worship it?


Then you are the enemies of that god, if you venerate it because the


lord of mankind has touched it.


That cross is lost but every time we see something similar it reminds


us of that cross.


Then why you do you not venerate the graves, for a grave once


contained your lord?


O worshipper of the Messiah, wake up! He has a beginning and he has


an end.


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