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US maintains visa ban on Muslim academic
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http://news.ibn.net/newsframe.asp?url=http...1881207,00.html


Staff and agencies


Tuesday September 26, 2006


EducationGuardian.co.uk


The US government has refused to grant a visa to the Muslim scholar Tariq Ramadan, <b>a vocal critic of the US invasion of Iraq,</b> but has dropped earlier charges against him of supporting terrorism, it has emerged.


Mr Ramadan, a Swiss citizen and a visiting fellow at Oxford, said he received an official letter clearing him of the charges that prevented him taking a job at the University of Notre Dame in Indiana.


But the US sustained the visa ban, imposed in 2004, saying that Mr Ramadan had contributed $600 (£400) to a group providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians.


Janelle Hironimus, a State Department spokeswoman, said a US consular officer had last week denied Mr Ramadan's application for a temporary business and tourism visa based on new information the government had learned about the scholar.


She said it had been determined that Mr Ramadan was ineligible to enter the country "based solely on his actions, which constituted providing material support to a terrorist organisation."


Ms Hironimus said she could not reveal specifics about Mr Ramadan's case due to confidentiality rules regarding visa applications.


The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) said the US government had notified Mr Ramadan that he was being denied a visa because he donated money French and Swiss organisations that provide humanitarian aid to Palestinians.


The ACLU said the organisations are legitimate charities in France, but the Bush administration contends the groups gave funds to the militant Islamic group Hamas and has invoked a law allowing it to exclude individuals whom it believes have supported terrorism.


"This case is really about speech," said Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU lawyer. "The government is using the immigration laws as a means of silencing and stigmatising a prominent critic."


Mr Ramadan, whose family fled Egypt to settle in Switzerland, has said he opposes the US invasion of Iraq and US policies in Israel and the Palestinian territories, but has no connections to terrorism, opposes Islamic extremism and promotes peaceful solutions.


On his website, Mr Ramadan said in a statement Monday that he brought the donations to the State Department's attention and that the organisations "are not deemed suspect in Europe, where I live."


"I donated to these organisations for the same reason that countless Europeans - and Americans, for that matter - donate to Palestinian causes: not to provide funding for terrorism, but because I wanted to provide humanitarian aid to people who are desperately in need of it," he said.


In a letter received by Mr Ramadan on Thursday, he said the State Department had put an end to rumors surrounding his case since the government revoked his visa in 2004 on grounds he had "endorsed or espoused" terrorist activity, a claim the government later dropped.


He said the 2004 revocation had come as a shock after he had accepted a double-tenured position at the University of Notre Dame, rented a house in South Bend, Indiana, and enrolled his children in schools there.


"I have consistently opposed terrorism in all of its forms,' he said. "While I have criticised specific United States policies, I have always condemned terrorism and I continue to do so today."


In 2005, Mr Ramadan applied for a visa that would allow him to temporarily visit the United States to lecture or attend conferences, as he had done prior to 2004 when he spoke at Harvard University, Stanford University and elsewhere.


When the State Department did not rule on the application, the ACLU brought a lawsuit on behalf of several groups which had invited Mr Ramadan to speak to force it to act.


In June, a US district judge ordered the government to rule on Mr Ramadan's application within three months.


In his statement on Monday, Mr Ramadan said it was "clear from the history of this case that the US government's real fear is of my ideas."


Ms Hironimus defended the government's policies, saying the United States "welcomes the exchange of culture and ideas with the Islamic world."


But Mr Jaffer said the ACLU had an option to return to court to argue that the government was using immigration laws to censor political debate in the United States.


"We do think this is reflective of a broader pattern. Increasingly, the government is relying on the immigration laws as a tool to manipulate debate here in this country," he said.

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Bismillah


Isnt there a term called double standard? Isnt the US a strong advocate of freedom of speach. :conf06: :rolleyes:

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They're country. They can do what they want.


And if they have freedom of speech there - and because its their turf, they can twist the meaning of freedom of speech however they like it.


Who are we to question them?

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Quote:They're country. They can do what they want.


And if they have freedom of speech there - and because its their turf, they can twist the meaning of freedom of speech however they like it.


Who are we to question them?

Bismilah


Dear Brother....


There is no Freedom of Speech in this country.


The hypocrisy that is going on here, if only you knew you'd get physically ill.


2 Weeks ago I was watching this documentary about this american laywer who was desperately trying to find her client.


Her client is a muslim man who got caught praising Usama bin laden his community in Florida. He continuesly said that he's against the war and doesnt believe that Usama bin laden is what they make him out to be. Brother, The man had visits from the FBI first, he got questioned etc. He got concerned and contacted a lawyer, hes been missing ever since then. The lawyer said that her claint has been taken away and put in a secret prison in America. There 1000 Secret prisons that are being build in america, they also have soemthing called " the patriotic act" They can arrest anyone they want and put them behind bars, without a trial, without proof. Families won't be gievn information that their sons are in some cruel prison.


They can keep them in there for aslong they like, even for life.


So There is no such thing as FREEDOM OF SPEECH in this country, atleast not after 9/11. America is a Tyranny!


Allah says this in the Quraan:


<b>2:11] And when it is said to them, Do not make mischief in the land, they say: We are but peace-makers.</b>


2:12] Now surely they themselves are the mischief makers, but they do not perceive.


2:15] Allah shall pay them back their mockery, and He leaves them alone in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on.


2:17] Their parable is like the parable of one who kindled a fire but when it had illumined all around him, Allah took away their light, and left them in utter darkness-- they do not see.


That first ayah, is soo true....remember when bush was going to attack Afghanistan first?


He said we are the peacemakers and the liberators. That ayah reflects on the world situation perfectly.

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The "Islamic News" forum has turned into the "what's wrong with America" forum.


Give me a break. It is completely America's decision. I don't think Iran would allow Billy Graham to go to Tehran to "teach."

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Bismillah


But is America a theocrasy?

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Bismillah




Quote:The "Islamic News" forum has turned into the "what's wrong with America" forum.


Give me a break. It is completely America's decision. I don't think Iran would allow Billy Graham to go to Tehran to "teach."

salam CC


It has nothing to do with turning the room into an anti US one, but it is just a piece of info that triggred much to talk about. If u think logically, most of the US fund in currently allocated for the war in Iraq...etc under the pretext of spreading democracy around the world because the US is really concerned about those countries suffereing under oppressive regimes. Another part is allocated for USAID which fosters democracy related programs in developing countries. In some cases, the fund is conditioned on an apparent change of the orientation of the regime. USAID programs mostly include components that teach people freedom of speach.


Got the point. :) So why would u compare with Iran? Iran is suffering under an oppressive regime led by a crazy man? :)

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The ban is nothing more than to give Tariq some credibility and status rather than being seen as one who is working with them.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,...rticle_continue


A Muslim scholar accused by critics of sympathising with violence has been appointed to a government taskforce attempting to root out Islamic extremism in Britain, the Guardian has learned.


If he is working against terrorism then why ban him? The muslims do not get fooled easily!


Tariq also talks a lot about reforming Islam, Islam does not need reforming as it has been perfected by Allah SWT.

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Presidents and Freedom fighters have been refused entry into the U.S or Visas


For the fact that the ex illegal apartheid government listed freedom fighters as Terrorist in the years against apartheid struggled.


These once terrorist are now cabinet ministers and deputy presidents.




Quote:The ban is nothing more than to give Tariq some credibility and status rather than being seen as one who is working with them.


Tariq also talks a lot about reforming Islam, Islam does not need reforming as it has been perfected by Allah SWT.
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