A Statement On The Beheading!

[Qutuz]

in Tarikh at-Tabari


"They (the Romans) attacked hard and at one point they penetrated the main Muslim force. The women of the Quresh fought the advancing enemy with their swords. These women in general, and Umm Hakeem the daughter of Harith bin Hisham, performed innumerable acts of valor, so much so that they outperformed the men."


""Attiyah ibn al-Harith narrates from an eye witness that in the battle of Qadisia, the largest number of women were from the people of Bajeela and Nakha'. There were 700 SINGLE WOMEN from the people of Nakha' and 1000 from Bajeela. Consequently, they married as many men from various clans across Arabia. Thus the people of Nakha' became the in-laws of the muhajereen and the people of Bajeela.""


http://www.globalwebpost.com/farooqm/writi...umar-women.html


sadly i can't find the full article of Yarmuk Battle...its in a book called "the companions of the prophet"..couldn't find it..although i read it online before but i can';t remember where!

[abeer]

لَنَا أَعْمَالُنَا وَلَكُمْ أَعْمَالُكُمْ سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ لَا نَبْتَغِي الْجَاهِلِينَ


سبحانك لا إله إلا أنت إني كنت من الظالمين

[Shereen]

in Tarikh at-Tabari
"They (the Romans) attacked hard and at one point they penetrated the main Muslim force. The women of the Quresh fought the advancing enemy with their swords. These women in general, and Umm Hakeem the daughter of Harith bin Hisham, performed innumerable acts of valor, so much so that they outperformed the men."

jazak allah.........i thank u for ur information



wow ! it means that the Muslim women also helped a lot in wars.........especially this one..........that's good to hear :D

[Ibn_Kumuna35]

Salaam Alaikum!


I am not at all optimistic that my points will be advanced (or challenged) anytime soon. What I do hope for, however, is a concious thought about what I put forth.


---Ibn

[Muslimah]

as salam alykom Ibn


Just to let u know the dialogue in Arabic has nothing to do wtth u. regarding your points, I think I gave u a number of Ayahs to ponder on which I think u did and grasped the idea, however I have more to tell u Insh a Allah but I will start a different thread for that.


In brief just for u to be sure we do understand your points since sometimes u dont come on directly and this might help others to settle a confusion.


<b>U r simply saying we as Muslim should not sacrifice our religious rules or transgress in cases of war. In other words, when Muslims face aggression, they still must abide by the relevant rules of confrontation as set forth by Quran and Sunnah. We must not argue that aggression against us can in any form legitimize breaking Islamic rules.
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And when this happens we Muslims must not overlook or try to be ok with it we must be couragous enough to face it and say we dont accept.


Am I correct in this summary, see I prefer to be precise and to the point so that we dont get lost..


If this is correct, let me know taking in consideration my previous post to u.

[Zainab]

<i> yeah ofcourse.......i really agreee with you that killing innocent ppl is not only a sin but it shows how some ppl r barbaric ! </i>
But what about the 12000 Iraqies who were killed by USA troops? if 3-4 ppl r beheaded that is NOTHING as compared to HOW much the Iraqies r suffering !

Very correct sister Shereen ..

[islam_enlightment]

Shereen if u feel for the 12,000 iraqis killed by americans, the death toll today of iraqis is 37,000 sinse Operation Iraqi Freedom, i am sorry to tell you that sinse 1991, american sanctions and bombs has killed 1.5 million iraqis, sadly they dont say this in cnn or fox news. Of the 1.5 million 500,000 of them were children who died of starvation and lack medical treatment. We live in a horrible world, were lies are believed and truth decieved!

[lifutushi]

who did the invaders killed? millions of iraqis... including childrens, women and old folks...all of them are killed in their own motherland...


who did the iraqi 'so-called-terrorists' killed? several people who either a spy, someone who work with the invaders's army, someone who work for the company that gain profit by the invasion... and all of them are killed in Iraq, they land they invaded!!!

[Shereen]

american sanctions and bombs has killed 1.5 million iraqis, sadly they dont say this in cnn or fox news. Of the 1.5 million 500,000 of them were children who died of starvation and lack medical treatment. We live in a horrible world, were lies are believed and truth decieved!

omg ! that's really shocking ! why haven't any media reported that???

[Muslimah]

Shereen simply because as I have been trying to say since the beginning of this thread, they want to divert our attention to other matters.


Till now I havent had an answer for a pressing question.,


Why is the US army there? Why they are fighting in Iraq? What is the purpose??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????