Quote:الأخ أبو نوران السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
حلمك علينا يا أخي الكريم
فالنوايا صادقة بإذن الله والغاية وجه الله أسأل الله أن يجنبنا الفتن ما ظهر منها وما بطن
واسمح لي أخي الكبير أن
أعتب عليك أخي الفاضل في تسرعك بالرد القاسي على أختنا الفاضله مسلمة والتي عرفناها لا تأخذها في الله لومة لائم
...أبداً كما يتضح من ردودها على الأخوة المترددين والمحتارين ،
...فما استحقت منك هذا الرد الجافي ، وصحيح أنك لم تغلط عليها ولكنك أغلظت عليها في القول ،
واستشهادك بآيات التفضيل والقوامة في غير محله لأنها لم تدعي شيئاً من ذلك لترد عليها أنت بالحجج والبراهين بارك الله فيك ، ولقد كانت آخر وصايا النبي أن استوصوا بالنساء خيراً .... وكم من نسوة سبقن الرجال إلى الخيرات ولقد كرمهن الله بالمنزلات العلى ، وأوصى بهن نبيه وعباده فهلا تأملت أخي رعاك الله
.إنما الدين النصيحة وإلا فلم أتينا لهذا المنتدى أخي إن لم نهتم بمصير إخوتناونحاول تصحيح مفاهيمنا قبل أن نصحح مفاهيمهم ، والمسلم يحب لأخيه ما يحب لنفسه ،
والاختلاف بإذن الله لن يفسد القضية الأساسية وهي التواصي والتناصح إلى أن يقضي الله بننا بالحق
وهذه الفتن التي تعاظمت في الآونة الأخيرة تهز أقوى الرجال ، وكم من مشائخ رأيناهم اهتزوا وبدلوا وكم من عالم وقاضي رأيناه يسقط صريعها نسأل الله العافية
بل ما قولك في الصحابة رضوان الله عليهم وكيف أنهم اختلفوا اختلافاً عظيما بعد رحيل النبي ، إنها لفتنة بل فتن عظيمة بدأت منذ
استشهاد عمر رضي الله عنه ولا تزال تعصف بهذه الأمة ، إلى أن يفرق الله الحق عن الباطل بالفاروق القادم المجدد بإذن الله أسأ ل الله أن يشهدنا تلك الأيام ويجعلك جندياً في جيشه ويفتح.
على يدك الفتوحات العظيمة وأثابك الله الجنة على ما تقدمه من مجهود وأسأ ل الله العلي العظيم أن يرينا الحق حقاً ويرزقنا اتباعه والباطل باطلاً ويرزقنا اجتنابه .
آآآآآآآآمين
PS: I WROTE THE REPLY TO BROTHER ABUNURAN IN ARABIC , I HOPE THE MODERATOR WON'T MIND
Quote:أخ أبو نوران لن أزيد على كلام الأخت عبير إلا أن الحلم سيد الأخلاق, وكذلك التواضع فلا نعتبر نفسنا فوق البشر أو أعلم منهم , جزاك الله كل خير, فكلنا لا يزال يتعلم حتى يوم وفاته ومن يدعي إنه أعلم الناس فلا يعلم شيء, نقدر علمك وجهودك في هذا المنتدى وجزاك الله كل خير على كل ما تقدمه ولكن أرجو منك طولة البال والصبر ولا تنسى قول الله سبحانه وتعالى: " والكاظمين الغيظ" ولا نريد أن نختلف جزاك الله خير
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Wa Alikum As-salaam sisters,
You both rushed to aid and stand by your sister but failed to observe a command from Allah (SWT).
I have a question for both of you, did you even remember this Ayah before taking her side?
An-Nisa
[58] Allah doth command you to render back your Trusts to those to whom they are due; <b>and when ye judge between people, that ye judge with justice: verily how excellent is the teaching which He giveth you! for Allah is He Who heareth and seeth all things</b>.
إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَأْمُرُكُمْ أَنْ تُؤَدُّوا الْأَمَانَاتِ إِلَى أَهْلِهَا <b>وَإِذَا حَكَمْتُمْ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ أَنْ تَحْكُمُوا بِالْعَدْلِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ نِعِمَّا يَعِظُكُمْ بِهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ سَمِيعًا بَصِيرًا</b>
Al-Hamdu ll'Allah that I mentioned in the previous post that her transgression was numerous and that my patience is being exhausted as I am only human.
Did you try to advice her, or maybe she never does wrong as you make her ya Abeer?
Both of you just skipped over that part and allowed yoursleves to transgress against a man also skipping over the Ayat from Surat An-Nisa that indicates to women that men excel over woman according to Allah (SWT) Shariah and that a pious woman should always follow those Ayat and never transgress against a man, and you think it's irrelevant ya Abeer. Fear Allah and obey his command sister before you come and tell me what's right from wrong, you too sister radiyah.
An-Nisa
[148] Allah loveth not that evil should be noised abroad in public speech, except where injustice hath been done; for Allah is He Who heareth and knoweth all things.
لَا يُحِبُّ اللَّهُ الْجَهْرَ بِالسُّوءِ مِنَ الْقَوْلِ إِلَّا مَنْ ظُلِمَ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ سَمِيعًا عَلِيمًا
Both of you didn't pause to think when I said numerous times which means it happened more than once, twice and thrice, and finally I reached my patience limits. Not once did she try to apologize, repent and ask Allah (SWT) forgivness, and that radiyah and muslimah is arrogance which you both accused me of.
Now you are coming to tell me that I am harsh, impatient, arrogant and think I am better than everyone here.
حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل
No wonder we are the way we are, and you ya Abeer is talking about the fitans that we are going through, the Prophet (SAAWS) was worried about this fitnah, the women fitnah that is, when women give fatwas, ignore the Ayat and transgress over the men and tell them what is right from wrong.
Muslimah gives a fatwa that we can't label people like that, where it is clearly stated in the Quran how Allah (SWT) labeled them and ordered us to do with them.
Abeer gives a fatwa that the deen is advice, and forgot to advice her sister to stop disrespecting a man.
Radiyah gives a fatwa that Helm (forebearer) is the best of virtues while she missed that I was already being haleem and transgress against me.
Hood
[51] "O my people! I ask of you no reward for this (Message). My reward is from none but Him Who created me: will ye not then understand?
يَا قَوْمِ لَا أَسْأَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا إِنْ أَجْرِيَ إِلَّا عَلَى الَّذِي فَطَرَنِي أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ
وَأَخْبَرَهُمْ أَنَّهُ لَا يُرِيد مِنْهُمْ أُجْرَة عَلَى هَذَا النُّصْح وَالْبَلَاغ مِنْ اللَّه إِنَّمَا يَبْغِي ثَوَابه مِنْ اللَّه الَّذِي فَطَرَهُ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ مَنْ يَدْعُوكُمْ إِلَى مَا يُصْلِحُكُمْ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَة مِنْ غَيْر أُجْرَة .
Well the Prophets where told worse than that when they tried to guide their people and I am not even close to any of them, so I will ask for more patience from Allah (SWT) and I will collect my rights from the Three of you on judgement day, when the Four of us will be brought infront of Allah (SWT) and he (SWT) will ask you the same question I asked you at the begining of this post. What are you going to answer?
The Three of you fell in the shaitan trap, and now you owe me and we will settle this on judment day.
On the authority of Abu Hurairah (may Allah be pleased with him) who reported that the Messenger of Allah (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had said:
The rights will be paid to those whom they are due to on the Resurrection Day, so much so that a hornless goat will be driven to one with horns (will get its claim).
(Reported by Muslim)
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Lessons Deduced:
- Allah is Just. He will allow people to retaliate against those who wronged them. Retaliation will be by taking from the good deeds of the wrongdoers to be given to the wronged, or by taking from the misdeeds of the wronged to be laid on the wrongdoers.
- Allah will gather animals to establish justice among them and allow the wronged to retaliate against the transgressors. Then they will all turn into dust.
- One should be quick to correct any injustice he has done to others.
On the authority of Sufyan bin `Abdullah (may Allah be pleased with him) who reported: I said: O Messenger of Allah, command me something by which I should hold fast. He (may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
Say: My Lord is Allah and then remain steadfast. Then I said: O Messenger of Allah! What do you fear most in my case? He said that he caught hold of his tongue and said this.
(Reported by Al-Tirmidhi)
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Lessons Deduced:
- The hadith includes a command that one should make his Faith firm at first, then stick to righteous deeds.
- The hadith warns against indulging in nonsensical speech as it hardens one's heart and deprives him of Allah's mercy.
Abu Umamah (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)
had said:
That who misappropriates the right of a Muslim by taking a false oath, Allah will make the fire of Hell obligatory for him, and Paradise will be forbidden for him. A man said to him: Messenger of Allah, even if it is something insignificant? He replied: Yes, even if it is the twig of the Arak tree.
(Reported by Muslim)
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Lessons deduced
1. The hadith is a warning to whoever unjustly devours the rights of others.
2. A Muslim should hasten to repent and pay back people’s rights.
3. It is prohibited to devour people’s rights, however little.
I don't know how many times I will have to say this, hate me, and call me all you want, all the Prophets went through even worse and that's how it is, the shaitan wants me to stop and keeps telling me to leave here, these people don't appreiate you and your efforts, but Al-hamdu ll'Allah I am stronger than him with Allah (SWT) aid and guidence and I am not doing this to impress anybody, but the fact is I can only fight one shaitan NOT 300, also people do NOT want to be told that they are wrong, that there is a better way, the Quran and Sunnah way.
Don't accumulate more sins by letting the shaitan make you hate me because I have some knowledge, I wasn't born like that, instead I seeked knowledge and with Allah (SWT) guidence and help I know what I know and I never said I know everything. You too can have knowledge, but you have to go look for it, it will not come look for you and insh'a Allah you will find it and use it to guide people to what you love for them.
Al-A'raf
[43] And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury - beneath them will be rivers flowing - and they shall say: "Praise be to Allah, Who hath guided us to this (felicity): never could we have found guidance, had it not been for the guidance of Allah: indeed it was the truth that the Messengers of our Lord brought unto us." And they shall hear the cry: "Behold! the Garden before you! ye have been made its inheritors, for your deeds (of righteousness)."
وَنَزَعْنَا مَا فِي صُدُورِهِمْ مِنْ غِلٍّ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهِمُ الْأَنْهَارُ وَقَالُوا <b>الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ الَّذِي هَدَانَا لِهَذَا وَمَا كُنَّا لِنَهْتَدِيَ لَوْلَا أَنْ هَدَانَا اللَّهُ لَقَدْ جَاءَتْ رُسُلُ رَبِّنَا بِالْحَقِّ </b>وَنُودُوا أَنْ تِلْكُمُ الْجَنَّةُ أُورِثْتُمُوهَا بِمَا كُنْتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ
I think if I post every Ayah and Hadith relevant to this matter, people would still follow their own opinion and desire as Allah (SWT) said:
Al-Jathiya
[23] Then seest thou such a one as takes as his god his own vain desire? Allah has, knowing (him as such), left him astray, and sealed his hearing and his heart (and understanding), and put a cover on his sight: Who, then, will guide him after Allah (has withdrawn guidance)? Will ye not then receive admonition?
أَفَرَأَيْتَ مَنِ اتَّخَذَ إِلَهَهُ هَوَاهُ وَأَضَلَّهُ اللَّهُ عَلَى عِلْمٍ وَخَتَمَ عَلَى سَمْعِهِ وَقَلْبِهِ وَجَعَلَ عَلَى بَصَرِهِ غِشَاوَةً فَمَنْ يَهْدِيهِ مِنْ بَعْدِ اللَّهِ أَفَلَا تَذَكَّرُونَ
ثم قال جل وعلا أفرأيت من اتخذ إلهه هواه أي إنما يأتمر بهواه فمهما رآه حسنا فعله ومهما رآه قبيحا تركه وهذا قد يستدل به على المعتزلة في قولهم بالتحسين والتقبيح العقليين وعن مالك فيما روي عنه من التفسير لا يهوى شيئا إلا عبده وقوله وأضله الله على علم محتمل قولين" أحدهما " وأضله الله لعلمه أنه يستحق ذلك" والآخر " وأضله الله بعد بلوغ العلم إليه وقيام الحجة عليه والثاني يستلزم الأول ولا ينعكس وختم على سمعه وقلبه وجعل على بصره غشاوة أي فلا يسمع ما ينفعه ولا يعي شيئا يهتدي به ولا يرى حجة يستضيء بها ولهذا قال تعالى فمن يهديه من بعد الله أفلا تذكرون كقوله تعالى من يضلل الله فلا هادي له ويذرهم في طغيانهم يعمهون.
Which I already said in the previous 2 posts, follow whichever way you want.
<b>I am NOT forcing anybody to even read my posts.</b>
Our actions and words are being written as we do them and we will be asked about them and judged accordingly.
Fussilat
[46] Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His servants.
مَنْ عَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَلِنَفْسِهِ وَمَنْ أَسَاءَ فَعَلَيْهَا وَمَا رَبُّكَ بِظَلَّامٍ لِلْعَبِيدِ
من عمل صالحا فلنفسه" أي إنما يعود نفع ذلك على نفسه " ومن أساء فعليها " أي إنما يرجع وبال ذلك عليه " وما ربك بظلام للعبيد " أي لا يعاقب أحدا إلا بذنبه ولا يعذب أحدا إلا بعد قيام الحجة عليه وإرسال الرسول إليه .
Allahum'a I have conveyed the message, Allahum'a be my witness.
ألهم قد بلغت، ألهم فاشهد
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