A Statement On The Beheading!

[Abunuran]

You (Muslims) can stop the violence can you? Muhammed left you divided. A divided house cannot stand. Whose to say your version of Islam is correct? This web site is full of hatred for each other.  There's no higher power at work, just man against man.
There's only one way to stop the violence. Denounce Islam and realize it's not a peaceful nation.  If you take away the Americans, the Jews, the militant terrorists, you'll still have a sick society. Haven't you realized an eye for an eye just doesn't work? You just can't stop the violence.


Look to the cross for salvation.  Christ can save you because he is Love. He loved us so much that he allowed himself to be killed for our sake. As an example of God's love He died for our sins. Whether you believe in Christ as the Son of God or not, Christ had taught what man needed to live in peace. He is wiser then the Quran because even before Muhammed was born, He knew better. He is God, and God is Love. And what better love is there then dying for someone you love so they might LIVE and not DIE.

Mark,


Your 2 posts so far are full of hatred and racism which shows that you are the one that is evil and twisted in his thoughts.


I would argue with you forever about your religion and mine, but I already see that I would be wasting my time with you.


Why don't you try to learn about Islam and it's history in the past 1425 years before attacking it and basing your words on nonsense and ambiguous claims and words. What are you afraid of??


Al-Maidah


[59] Say: "O People of the Book! do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?"

[abeer]

mark the way


peace be upon jesus


he is the word of god, the son of man, he said: an eye for an eye.


jews wanted him to be killed but allah saved him with a miracle, for jesus is coming back ....


yes he will,


the whole truth then will be known .


it will be a tragic end for all of those people who claimed that jesus is the son of god - astaghfur allah -


and god let his son be tortured and killed so violently just to save his trators and killers!!


and most of christians think that they're saved from hell..


so why not drink and steal and rape,as long as jesus have guarnteed us heavens!


your preechers lie to you, hide the truth, they always have... look at the contradictions in The Bible!


soo many copies with huge diffrences, they re-wrote them so many times.


how can you say that you don't even think about this fact!!!!!


this is important, it's even more than a matter of life and death .. it's way beyond that.


christian brothers and sisters:-


think alot about this concept..


try and find the truth


search really hard


honstly..... i hope every person on the face of earth find peace in his life and after,,,


as long as he's agood person....


but god will be the judge of that for he is the wise and just.

[Qutuz]

what is happening to Muslims in Iraq by the new crusaders and what is happening to Muslims in Israel by the Zionists doesn't justify the evil we watched happening to people like Nick Berg and Paul Johnson...etc.


"O you who believe! Be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice, <b>and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably</b>; act equitably, that is nearer to piety, and he careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is Aware of what you do. " [005.008]


يا أيها الذين آمنوا كونوا قوامين لله شهداء بالقسط ولا يجرمنكم شنآن قوم على ألا تعدلوا اعدلوا هو أقرب للتقوى واتقوا الله إن الله خبير بما تعملون


المائدة


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[MarkTheWay]

Your 2 posts so far are full of hatred and racism which shows that you are the one that is evil and twisted in his thoughts.
I would argue with you forever about your religion and mine, but I already see that I would be wasting my time with you.

So far I haven't attacked anyone at a personal level like you have. I've only attacked your ideology.


I'm will listen to you and learn from you if you teach me something. Why not start by answering my questions? Tell me how your going to stop the violence?


But I challenge you to be fair and objective too. Consider for a moment that you may be given lies about Christianity. Let our free will, our soul, be our guide. We are of the same spirit so if we listen to that spirit it should tell us the truth.


I'll surrendor to the truth of the Quran, will you do the same with the Bible? Can you learn from C.S Lewis who recommends in "An Experiment in Criticism"


"The first demand any work of art makes of us is surrender. Look, Listen. Receive. Get yourself out of the way. There is no good asking first whether the work before you deserves such a surrender, for until you have surrendered, you cannot possibly find out."

[Qutuz]

i found interesting article regarding Nick Berg executioners


http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?...ID=9529&TagID=2


in brief : after studying the video it was noticed that Executioner were wearing gold rings which is forbidden by Islam....

[Abunuran]

what is happening to Muslims in Iraq by the new crusaders and what is happening to Muslims in Israel by the Zionists doesn't justify the evil we watched happening to people like Nick Berg and Paul Johnson...etc.
"O you who believe! Be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice, <b>and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably</b>; act equitably, that is nearer to piety, and he careful of (your duty to) Allah; surely Allah is Aware of what you do. " [005.008]


يا أيها الذين آمنوا كونوا قوامين لله شهداء بالقسط ولا يجرمنكم شنآن قوم على ألا تعدلوا اعدلوا هو أقرب للتقوى واتقوا الله إن الله خبير بما تعملون


المائدة


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Please don't forget this Ayah before you accuse Muslims for what is happening, instead try to seek the truth.


Al-Hujurat


الحجرات - 6


يَا أَيّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنْ جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِق بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَنْ تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ



[6] O ye who believe! if a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.

[Abunuran]

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I would argue with you forever about your religion and mine, but I already see that I would be wasting my time with you.

So far I haven't attacked anyone at a personal level like you have. I've only attacked your ideology.


I'm will listen to you and learn from you if you teach me something. Why not start by answering my questions? Tell me how your going to stop the violence?


But I challenge you to be fair and objective too. Consider for a moment that you may be given lies about Christianity. Let our free will, our soul, be our guide. We are of the same spirit so if we listen to that spirit it should tell us the truth.


I'll surrendor to the truth of the Quran, will you do the same with the Bible? Can you learn from C.S Lewis who recommends in "An Experiment in Criticism"


"The first demand any work of art makes of us is surrender. Look, Listen. Receive. Get yourself out of the way. There is no good asking first whether the work before you deserves such a surrender, for until you have surrendered, you cannot possibly find out."

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Yes Mark I have attacked you at a personal level but didn't attack your religion like you did with Islam. Which do you think is better??


If you were willing to listen and discuss matters in a civilized way, you would have started in a better way than you did.


As I said your questions are based on ambiguous claims.


Challenging you will not proof anything. I was never given lies about christianity. As a matter of fact, I probably know it better than you do, way better.


My guide is the Quran and Sunnah, not free will or my soul, maybe yours, but definitly not mine. The Quran and Sunnah told me the truth, not my spirit Mark.


How can you claim to surrender to the Quran when you are attacking it and claiming it's falsehood in the 1st place.


The Taurah, the Bible and the Quran are from the same God, that is Allah (SWT), so there is not much difference between all of them except that the Tourah and the Bible have been altered while the Quran remains unaltered and protected by Allah (SWT) for 1425 years and counting.


I already surrendered to the will of Allah (SWT) Mark, accepted Islam as my religion and way of life, nothing you can possibly say will derail me from that insh'a Allah.

[radiyah]

Alsalam 'ala man itaba'a alhuda

You (Muslims) can stop the violence can you? Muhammed left you divided. A divided house cannot stand. Whose to say your version of Islam is correct? This web site is full of hatred for each other. There's no higher power at work, just man against man.
There's only one way to stop the violence. Denounce Islam and realize it's not a peaceful nation. If you take away the Americans, the Jews, the militant terrorists, you'll still have a sick society. Haven't you realized an eye for an eye just doesn't work? You just can't stop the violence.

Yes, we are left divided, and that is proof he is a prophet, because he said that we will be divided, he said that there will be 73 sectors in Islam, only one is on the right path, that is the one who clutches to the Quran and my Sunnah. And who told u that we hate each other, if we diffrinciate in our ideas does not mean we hate each other, did u enter our hearts and read inside it, we are all here brothers and sisters, we are joined here to serve Allah, and we love each other for Allah.


Okay, where were the jews or americans when the islamic nation ruled, where were they when the jews ran away form europe because they were tortured, to stay under the islamic rulings because they treated them better. Where was America when the arab christians fought with the muslims against the europeans because they tortured them for differencce in creed, and they preffered the ruling of muslims rather than christians. Where were they when Omar Ibn Al-Khatab the second Khaleefat ruled, he was just and gave the christians and jews their rights, and that is because he was a true muslim ruler who abided to the Quran and Sunnah. And do not to tell us or order us to denounce Islam, It is the only true relegion, the problem is it is fought so fiercly, pictured as a relegion of terror, while it is a relegion of peace, when we salute ourselves we say, <b>Alsalam 'Alaykom </b> which means peace be upon u, Al-salam is one of Allah's glorified names, many more are embracing Islam instead of all the efforts to show that it is terrorizing. Many American soldiers embracd Islam in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and Iraq, because they saw the true Islam. If u misunderstood concepts of Islam and u have questions to ask we are willing to answer u, u r most welcome. Mark, there is only one God, who created the heavens, the earth, and the whole universe, he has no son, he is one, Jesus is Like our father Adam, he created Adam from his spirit, and he created eve from Adam, and he created Jesus from Meriam. He is God, he does what he wills, but never did he have a son, and never did Jesus die for humanity sins. Why should he . Abraham, Jacob, David, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad (may Peace be upon them all) are all, messengers of Allah, and he gave to each of them a miracle that suits his time. And the Quran is the miracle of the prophet Mohammad, not one, I repeat not one of the most eloquent arabs could write one verse the same in Quran, and Allah the All Mighty defied them to do so:


In The Name of Allah Most Merciful Most Gracious:


21. O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allâh), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).



22. Who has made the earth a resting place for you, and the sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the sky and brought forth therewith fruits as a provision for you. Then do not set up rivals unto Allâh (in worship) while you know (that He Alone has the right to be worshipped).


23. And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'ân) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a Sûrah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allâh, if you are truthful.


24. But if you do it not, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.


If u think the Quran is not true, I dare any1 to prove it is wrong, and I dare any1, to create one verse the same. It is in Arabic, never changed still the same since 1425 years ago, the translations u c in english is merely translations of arabic translation, u will never know the beauty of the Quran until u learn arabic. No1 could ever change it, no1 could ever write one verse or even one word the same.


If u c that our relegion is associated with terrorism, u r mistaken, our relegion does not accept such terrorism, all scholars condemend it. And who knows who is behind all this. All u want to beleive is the media of America and Israel, cant u c that it is deceiving. So I hope u will start searching for the truth, read more Islam, read this:


Surrat Mariam


http://www.al-sunnah.com/call_to_islam/q...rah19.html


And this is the translation. Here u will find the story of Meriam(may Allah be pleased with her), and Jesus(pbuh).


http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=19&tid=30971


I hope that u are willing to learn, we are willing to help u, u r welcome on our board, and I kindly ask u to lower the attacking tone, and try to learn the true Islam, and not the one u c on foreign media. As a brother in humanity, I offer peace to u and wish that u will accept our invitation to learn more about Islam.


Peace.

[radiyah]

in brief : after studying the video it was noticed that Executioner were wearing gold rings which is forbidden by Islam....

Exactly what we are trying to say here, true muslims dont do such actions. Cant u c that the new captives they are taking are all muslims, turks pakistany, even the american soldier they have captive now, he is a muslim from lebanese origin. So everybody please widen up your eyes and ears and c who is the true terrorist.

[JON PTW]

ALLAH URGED US TO DEFEND OUR SELVES .


THEY KILL US WE KILL THEM >>> SIMPLE AS THAT.


AN EYE FOR AN EYE A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH , AND HE WHO BEGAN IS THE UNJUST ........ ALLAH SAID SO IN IS HOLY QURA'AN.


No wonder this world is in the turmoil when we have brain washed such as this english, american hater!


This sort of behaver cannons down to younger generations, and in the end we are goin to be fighting a endless battle.


You people preech hate towards us english therefore have the neck to drain our country with your benefits scams and take advantage of our over generous education.


If your islam is that great then go back to the country from were that become.


If not then consider your self british and a british citizen and condem these nasty vile people who take a innocent mans life, nick berg was not a CIA man he was a charity worker who had been for many years.


President Bush is a good man we need more of him he will capitalize and he will win he wants peace and he shall get peace.


I have reads threads on this forum and i read racists comments all the time we seem to have small time english muslims on here who clearly dont no what are talkin about, at the moment you guys think you are winning but.................


HE WHO LAFF LAST LAFFS THE LONGEST.


WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS YOUR MENTOR LIVES FOR NOW BUT SADDAM WILL BE HUMILIATED ONCE AGEN........