Jihad in Palestine

[radiyah]

NO !! Hey, I watched a program called \"In the Name of God\" and this was featured in it. It was brutal !! What they do to a baby is incredible ! These people are nuts ! The documentary was made by a jew so I don't know if I should believe it or not.

I read it, yes it is true, we did not say that all jews are liars did we, and as u saw, there are honest jews fighting against Israel and its existance. But about mujahedeen and shahada, this is a long story, it depends on what u are fighting and what is your intention in fighting to become a shaheed or martyr, and I think that this has been explained before in other posts. And this one as well, if u ever read the scholars fatwa about jihad.

Yawn.

Well, brother Dan, John is John, realities and facts that are in favour of Islam

are boring, I wonder will he ever c the light or not .

This is interesting. I have often wondered about Arafat. Married to a Christian isn't he ?

Yes, he is, and I have another story about Arafat, I got an email about him showing his real origin, and I am trying to find more facts to fortify it. His origin is a palestinian Jew that claimed to embrace Islam, it was a long subject about him and how he became the leader by killing other true palestinian leaders who fought for palestine liberty, even a palestinian cartoonist was killed in Kuwait because he made a cartoon about him conveying such meaning, I am still searching for more proof of that, I hope I will find it. And yes he is married to a christian, he goes and attends church masses. A true muslim should never do that. He also opened a gambling cazino in Ghaza, a true muslim would never do that as well. So are you more interested now, if u are, how about helping me in the search John :learn:

And if anything found, a new thread should be started, good luck, if u decided to search

Peace

I really don't like this Guy. :throwup:

[radiyah]

Well well I found this while searching for arafat's picture, a good start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasser_Arafat

Quote from the biography:




Claims that he was related to the Jerusalem Husseini clan through his mother (an Abul Saoud), which previously appeared on this page, are shown false given that the Husseini clan designation comes from his father's side. Aburish further explains that Arafat was "unrelated to the real Husseini notables of Jerusalem" (Ibid, p. 9) and explains that "The young Arafat sought to establish his Palestinian credentials and promote his eventual claim to leadership... [and] could not afford to admit any facts which might reduce his Palestinian identity. ...Arafat insistently perpetuated the legend that he had been born in Jerusalem and was related to the important Husseini clan of that city." (Ibid, p. 8)

A good start, I will copy this to a new thread.

Peace

[Abohamza30]

Bismillah Arrahman Arrahim,

Al-slamu Alaikom

New names being given to war, again and again.. The Public in USA understands very well that this war is just a war on islam.In my openion there is no difference between targeting militant Islam and Civil islam because both end at bombing homes and civilians,dehumanizing and apologizing.

this article represents some if Not majority of US religious beliefes about the state of Israel and its future in the middle East.... Isnt an Islamic Millitant equal to this religious drive ? Both are religious and Both stem from a believe/faith and Both aim at killing the other side and to be determined to be the winning side... Why this labeling to islamic Millitant forces as terrorism while the religious support to israel is not labeled as Christian Terrorism or Fundamentalism!!! No way, Its a Faith of Peace!!!!

War on Militant Islam article from LB Prophecy club quoted:



The "War on Terror" is misnamed

by Mark Hitchcock

In a recent article in the National Review Online ( May 13, 2004), Andrew C. McCarthy made a very sage observation. The title of the article was

"The War that Dare Not Speak Its Name"

The battle is against militant Islam, not "Terror"

In the article, McCarthy says what we all know but very few have been willing to publicly recognize.

Well, we are now well into the third year of what is called the "War on Terror." That is the language we all use, and it is ubiquitous. The tabloids and the more prestigious journals of news and opinion fill their pages with it. The 24-hour cable television stations are not content merely to repeat "War on Terror" as if it were a mantra; they actually use it as a floating logo in their dizzying set designs. Most significant of all, the "War on Terror" is our government's top rhetorical catch-phrase. It is the way we define for the American people and the world — especially the Islamic world — what we are doing, and what we are about. It is the way we explain the nature of the menace that we are striving to defeat. But is it accurate? Does it make sense? More importantly, does it serve our purposes? Does it make victory more identifiable, and hence more attainable? I humbly suggest that it fails on all these scores. This, furthermore, is no mere matter of rhetoric or semantics. It is all about substance, and it goes to the very core of our struggle. Terrorism is not an enemy. It is a method. It is the most sinister, brutal, inhumane method of our age. But it is nonetheless just that: a method. You cannot, and you do not, make war on a method. War is made on an identified — and identifiable — enemy. In the here and now, that enemy is militant Islam — a very particular practice and interpretation of a very particular set of religious, political and social principles. Now that is a very disturbing, very discomfiting thing to say in 21st-century America. It is very judgmental. It sounds very insensitive. It is the very definition of politically incorrect. Saying it aloud will not get you invited to chat with Oprah. But it is a fact. And it is important both to say it and to understand it.

I could not agree more. America and the world must realize that the greatest threat to the world today is militant Islam. The next great event in Bible prophecy could very well be the great Islamic invasion of Israel predicted in Ezekiel 38—39. It is a prophecy that is shaping history even as you read this article. According to Ezekiel 38—39, militant Islam will not go away any time soon. All the nations in Ezekiel 38:1-7 that attack Israel in the end times are currently Islamic nations with the exception of Russia. And most of them are currently avowed enemies of Israel (Persia, Libya, and Sudan). There is nothing that these nations would love more than to invade Israel to wipe her off the face of the earth.

While what we see developing before our eyes in the world today is disturbing, it should not be surprising to those who understand Bible prophecy. The rise of militant Islam is contributing to worldwide instability and pushing the world toward globalism even faster than its already accelerating pace. Nations must come together in cooperative military and intelligence efforts to combat this terrible menace. And globalism is necessary for the worldwide rule of Antichrist predicted in Revelation 13. The meteoric rise of militant Islam is also setting the stage for the massive end times invasion of Israel predicted by the Old Testament prophet Ezekiel over 2,500 years ago.

We can keep calling it the "war on terror" if we want to, but someday the world will be forced to recognize it for what it really is. Maybe much sooner than we any of us expect.

Read Andrew MacCarthy's full article on NationalReviewOnline.

http://www.nationalreview.com/mccarthy/mcc...00405130837.asp

[Deen]

(Assalam)

I am a brother from the same mind, unblind!

I must say, that it does make a refreshing change to see muslims looking beyond their noses and actually doing some research on the reality/events.

Like the brothers and sisters have said that Saddam Hussein was an American Agent (until he was captured like a rat in a hole, and by the way, this is how Allah [swt] humiliates those who betray the muslim ummah). Saddam was put into power to reduce the British influence in Iraq which is why he got rid of many people who were pro-British.

Then Saddam fought Iran in what I would call the 1st Gulf War (both in collaboration with the US) using chemical weapons to cause instability in the region. Ayatollah was threatening to spread his revolution throughout the middle east which was to scare the arab govts. to seek help from the US so the US can come in and have a physical presence in the middle east. But this did not materialise.

The next plan was to invade a neighbouring country Kuwait i.e. the 2nd Gulf war. The invasion sent shock-waves throughout the middle east and we all know that the arab regimes ran to the US for physical protection and the US managed to esablish bases and to this day maintains its hegemony over the region from the help from her trusted friends!

The same can be said about Abdul Nasser of Egypt, he nationalised the Suez so to reduce the British involvement in Egypt and make America superior in the region.

Likewise in Afghanistan, when the US was supporting the "mujahideen" financially, militarily to defeat Russia. Again, muslim blood was spilt in order to achieve US's ambitions for the region.

One of these divisions was headed by Bin Laden himself and was receiving assistance from the CIA. So all these so called leaders/heros to emerge in the past decades or century have some links with western govts. who need their existance inorder to achieve their aims and plans.

Radiyah is correct to say that whenever the US is willing to capture Laden they will (when the time is right for them). But at this moment in time Laden's freedom justifies the "war on terror" i.e. Islam.

So the geo-political struggle which took place is at the expense of the muslims.

Hadith of rasool (saw) The sanctity of a Muslim’s blood is more in the sight of Allah than the sanctity of Al Ka’aba.

[Abohamza30]

Aslamo Alaikom Brother Deen,

I know you are not blind, and Alhamdolillah Many are not.. and this is promising

So, I would like you and other Brothers and Sisters sign the petition to stop assault on Rafah .

Although I feel ashamed to do so, and from all Arab leaders!!!! they got us down... but No matter, Allah's will is behind all and will someday turn them down as they did us......

http://www.petitiononline.com/YYZM5184/pet...l/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/YYZM5184/pet...ition-sign.html

I appreciate your open Eye, Deen and wish you were million Deens there.... I dont know!! But I just want always to share what I see is almost hounest with my brothers and sisters in this world....I feel all my moslem brothers and sisters everywhere, no matter where they are... I wish them always live hounorable and humilation-free life... the Only way that we can achieve this is ONLY Jihad... Nothing else!!! Petitions,Political dialogues and negotiations always gave us nothing but more humilation and more rubish figures who will stand up and speak confidently they are working for the sake of fake democracies and........

I thought I would come back and edit this reply on the hope that I will make of this a benifit, even very little, to what We all need to come to realize.We just need to return to Allah and to Quran, and it is the only way we cant get out of this. We have seen how the agenda of Mujahedeen in 80's served the US ambitions and we all know that Arab leaders blessed this all and prayed much for its success and there we got. Depending on weak creatures always bring weak results, we need to come back to Allah and our deen, be faithfull in our duties and thence Victory will come....

Thanks for the explaination.

[Muslimah]

as salam alykom

I dont want to sound like a reluctant person, but petition to who?? I dont submit petition to UN or USA to call for the stop of assault. let us continue struggling we are winners they are loosers. Let us wake up due to such scenes. But petition should be only made to Allah for the ummah to improve, for men to be men and Muslim women become Muslim women so that we can continue struggling till the day after.

[Abohamza30]

Aslamu Alaikom Sister Moslimah,

I think you are right. And I thought this is a desperate method of working on it. But I meant it, because it just goes to the judge and your judge is your enemy!!! so dont expect justice from anyone but Allah,because their Justice is dressed another black dress.

I have to elaborate more on Victory. Victory does not come with petitions and is always a friend of true faith of Allah and Patience together. Steadfast patience and History is full of stories like what we see now I find Ibn Tiemeiah's the best to mention now because his age lived similar events to what we are living now During Moghul attack on Iraq, Moslems were scattered and weak to the extent that a Moghul womman used to ask 10 moslem wommen to lie on the ground and and they obeyed fearing her, she asked them if they had a knife to cut their throats with it, and they answered they hadnt, she asked them to stay layed on the ground till she did her shopping and find a knife and come back to them to kill them and she Killed them all. This means they lived some state of fear we did not reach yet, Alhamdolillah!!!! But it does mean that they gave up beliefe in Allah too and they were scattered.Someday Ibn Teimyah started to notice some little hope in the horizon, the started to come to Fajr Prayer more and more, and he was -the renewer of his age-, he gatherd them on a Friday speech and started with the message(( You are going to be Victorious!!)) and he repeated the same message, they asked him to "Say Inshaallah" he answered them that he will say Inshallah just to emphasize that they will be and he was sure they will defeat their enemy which beat them in extraordinary conditions because they were weak in Beliefe and in weapon, and he elevated everybody's spirit that Victory is from Allah if they truly depended on Him and worked together. Soon the Leader Sultan Qutz came to them and gathered them , united their line and they defeated the most forecious enemy Islamic lands ever seen, they sent them back to their homes and Iraq returned a free moslem land. This is the remedy!!!! petitions and please do not yield but desperacy!!!

Thanks again, Moslimah

[radiyah]

as salam alykomI dont want to sound like a reluctant person, but petition to who?? I dont submit petition to UN or USA to call for the stop of assault. let us continue struggling we are winners they are loosers. Let us wake up due to such scenes. But petition should be only made to Allah for the ummah to improve, for men to be men and Muslim women become Muslim women so that we can continue struggling till the day after.

I totally agree with sister Muslimah, we don't need them or their decisions anymore, we are fed up with it, as if they will answer us, the UN( and I think that the UN is another US organization) convicted Israel thousands of times, what happened more humiliation and killings in the name of fighting terror. So the solution is jihad, but how can we do it, as Amr Khaled(Egyptian daiyah) says as muslims we must have a goal in life, so I guess we sould have a goal in our life and on this board to raise a new generation of muslims who fear no 1 but Allah Almighty, and I hope we can help on this goal on this board through the kid's section. May Allah Almighty accepts from us. If I am mistaken from me and my ignorance, if I am right from Allah Almighty.

(Assalam)

[radiyah]

And the cycle of hate continues.

Well this is expected from u John, but u must know that in Islam when u fear no 1 else but Allah, then there will be no hate, there will be justice. And u will not feel this just if u keep throwing fire balls on Islam blindly, and try once to be more reasonable and more just. People sometimes c the truth in front of them and they know it is the truth, but then the truth does not fit their whims, so what will they do? their inner soul will fight it back so fiercly that they are blinded away from the truth, and they c nothing but their own lust. Again I will keep on saying that Islam is strong, it will keep on growing more people will embrace islam, no matter what u try to say or write about it.

In the Name of Allah MOst Gracious Most Merciful :




172. Of those who answered the call of Allah and the Messenger, even after being wounded, those who do right and refrain from wrong have a great reward;-

173. Men said to them: "A great army is gathering against you": And frightened them: But it (only) increased their Faith: They said: "For us Allah sufficeth, and He is the best disposer of affairs."

174. And they returned with Grace and bounty from Allah. no harm ever touched them: For they followed the good pleasure of Allah. And Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded.

175. It is only the Evil One that suggests to you the fear of his votaries: Be ye not afraid of them, but fear Me, if ye have Faith.

176. Let not those grieve thee who rush headlong into Unbelief: Not the least harm will they do to Allah. Allah.s plan is that He will give them no portion in the Hereafter, but a severe punishment.

177. Those who purchase Unbelief at the price of faith,- not the least harm will they do to Allah, but they will have a grievous punishment.

178. Let not the Unbelievers think that our respite to them is good for themselves: We grant them respite that they may grow in their iniquity: But they will have a shameful punishment.

3,Al-Imran

QUOTE:

THE AMAZING QUR'AN

Calling the Qur'an amazing is not something done only by Muslims, who have an appreciation for the book and who are pleased with it; it has been labeled amazing by non-Muslims as well. In fact, even people who hate Islam very much have still called it amazing. End QUOTE by Dr. Gary Miller

[radiyah]

radiyah you seem to have gone off at the deep end and completey off topic.

Oh really thanks to u, but anyways the title is Jihad in palestine and that is what we were talking about actually, and jihad in palestine means jihad allover the islamic countries, and we already told u that our arab leaders are not ruling by the Quran or Islamic laws. We were stating, me and the brothers and sisters that there is no solution but jihad, and this will not come within a day or night John, we are not calling for terrorism or hatred to people, we are calling for Allah's onnes, and our right in the arab and islamic world, no1, I repeat no1 has the right to decide what islam is and how we should rule, and what should rule. Because Allah Almighty already ordered us what to do, and it is out of our weakness that we are what we are now, because muslims are not true muslims, yes they have muslim names, but they dont pray, they dont read quran, they commit adultry, if u ask them about islamic history they know just a bit of it, girls only care about fashion and what is the latest trend, they threw away their viels, started dancing in public and being very cheap. They learnt how to cheat how to steal how to be disobedient to Allah Almighty, and they insult their parents rarely listening to them, they learnt to get drunk deceiving themselves that it is halal, they learnt everything that is unlawful, they forgot their DEEN(relegion). So u c this is not Islam, nor is terror, Islam is Peace, Islam is dignity for oneself, Islam is just to all,islam is purity in body heart and soul, if u read the true history of Islam and the true leaders of Islam, like Omar ibn Al-Khatab, or Omar Ibn Abd Al-azeez, this khalifa during his ruling the Islamic vaults were overloaded with all kind of wealth that he was searching for a poor man to feed and he couldnt find, and that was becasue of his just and ruling by Islamic rules. Even christians jews and kafirs lived under his ruling with no fear. So u c now I am not off topic, we want some1 like Omar Ibn Abd Al-Azeez, and when we find 1 like him, then jihad is legitimate under a ruling of one Islamic leader who rules by Quran and sunnah, and not by terrorizing people, and to find such a leader we mus start with our children, teach them what true islam is, which is not hatred as u stated. So here again John I sincerely ask u be more objective and just when reading about Islam, dont just accept the ones that talk about muslim leaders, who are not ruling by Islam, and read about the true Islam in its golden era and how it ruled, stop reading from anti Islamic sites and try to be once just to yourself and others by not beleiving lies from those who hate Islam.

In the Name of Allah MOst Gracious Most Merciful :

256. Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.


257. Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever).

2, Al-Baqara

I hope u c the light John, I really do. :smilingfl