Jihad in Palestine

[radiyah]

(bismillah )

All glory is to Allah, the Most Merciful The most graceful.

Evrybody on this board, has raised the issue of jihad in Islam, weather muslims or non muslims, and most concider suicide bombers in palstine as terrorists, wether muslims or non muslims.

Me as a muslim, and as I heard from many scholars, and read from Islamic books, the

jihad in palestine is halal, and it is a must, and we are to help them with whatever we can. Now as for killing children and women along with others, we know this is not allowed in Islam, but still we are not to judge that and say that they are terrorists

and they are going to hell. We leave this to Allah Almighty, he knows best, and he only knows the intention of people.

And here is a fatwa by sheikh Bin baz about the palestinians.

Question of Fatwa


What is the Islamic legal ruling concerning the current Palestinian Intifada: Is it Jihad in the Cause of Allah? Is liberation struggle regarded as Jihad in the Cause of Allah?

Name of Mufti Sheikh `Abdul `Azîz Ibn Bâz

Content of Reply

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, we would like to thank you for your question and the great confidence you place in us. May Allah reward you abundantly for your interest in knowing the teachings of Islam!

Speaking about Jihad in Palestine, the late erudite scholar, Sheikh `Abdel-`Aziz Ibn Baz, may Allah have mercy on his soul, has issued the following fatwa:

"Reliable scholars have unanimously agreed that Palestinians who participate in the current Intifada are sincere and true Muslims, and that their Jihad is in the Cause of Allah. This is due to their being oppressed by the Jews. Thus, they are obliged to defend their religion, their souls, their kith and kin, and their children, and to devote all power and energy in order to drive their enemies out of their home.

and here is the link for the fatwa

http://www.islam-online.net/fatwa/english/...?hFatwaID=44252

http://www.islam-online.net/fatwa/english/...?hFatwaID=82694

about the suicide bombing, here is the fatwa that says it is halal(by Dr. Fuad Mukhaymar, from islam-online:

We'd like to address a point; all scholars agreed that what the Palestinians carry out in showing resistance against their enemies is not a suicide bombing; rather, it's to be called martyr operation.


As regards your question, the late Azharite scholar and the head of the Sunni Egyptian Institutions in Egypt, Sheikh Fu'ad Mukhaymar, states the following:

"The view adopted by the majority of our contemporary Muslim scholars, describing as martyrs the Palestinians who blow themselves up in the occupied land in showing resistance against the aggression, is correct for the following reasons:

A person who blows himself up sacrifices his life for the survival of others. He dies for his homeland and his holy sites.



and here is the fatwa in full

http://www.islam-online.net/fatwa/english/...?hFatwaID=44297

the following is the


fatwa issued by Sheikh Faysal Mawlawi, deputy chairman of European Council for Fatwa and Research:

"Martyr operations are not suicide and should not be deemed as unjustifiable means of endangering one's life. Allah says in the Glorious Qura'n: "And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good." (Al-Baqara:195).



http://www.islam-online.net/fatwa/english/...?hFatwaID=46143

So I hope this is enough proof, that suicide bombers in palestine are not terrorist, they are fighting for a noble cause, and we should all help them even with duaa'.

And to those sisters and brothers in Islam, who condemen the palestinians, and say they are not shaheed, do make sure of what u say before making fatwa. What kind of world is this that makes the occupier innocent and the occupied a terrorist. What kind of law that says, I am killed, my mother my daughter and my children killed, girls are raped, and then i just sit and say, yes come and kill me more, and for what, for a lie that Israel built, they have no right in that land, it is mentioned in the Torah, so their cause is not holy, their cause is to rule the world, and I feel sorry for those who really beleive that the jews are fighting for a holy cause. In Islam we must be pride and defend our deen and dignity, what are we doing now, nothing instead of condemning Israel and the ones aiding it we are condemening the palestinians.

On the day of khaleefa Al-Mu'tasem, in palestine there was a woman who was insulted by a kafer or a jew I do not know what( I think she was raped, I will look up for the full story( any1 who can help me with that, brothers and sisters) so she called WAMU'TASAMAH, the news reached the khaleefa, he prepared an army, headed to palestine, and fought until he caught that man, and he presented him as a slave for the woman, and she said he is free for Allah. so c the difference between then and now.

We need to build ourselves we need true muslim leader who fears no one but Allah. We need a new youth that does not follow super star and star academy and the latest fashion trends, we need true muslims who will fight for the cause of Allah.

May Allah Al-Mighty forgive me if I am mistaken. If I am right it is from Allah, if I am wrong it is from my ignorance.

Wasalam 'alaykom wa rahmat Allah wa barakatuh.(Walikum)

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[Muslimah]

(Assalam)

Jazaki Allah khairan Radiyah for this effort

u know what deep inside I always wished for Allah to accept them as martyres I felt that I did not want them to waste themselves. May Allah find a way out for this ummah. A brther (AboHamzah) posted an interesting post about the signs of the last days.

May Allah accept our dead as Shuhada, grant them Jannah ameen

As long as we have fatwas from scholars, then we can not argue about it. But Radiyah did u come accross any fatwa that say no. Because I think I hears some scholars said blowing up themselves is not permissible.

[radiyah]

Radiyah did u come accross any fatwa that say no. Because I think I hears some scholars said blowing up themselves is not permissible.

NO, sister Muslimah, I did not come across any that says no, but I will keep searching

and any new fatwa I will find I will by will of Allah post it here Insha'Allah.

As regards your question, the late Azharite scholar and the head of the Sunni Egyptian Institutions in Egypt, Sheikh Fu'ad Mukhaymar, states the following:

\"The view adopted by the majority of our contemporary Muslim scholars, describing as martyrs the Palestinians who blow themselves up in the occupied land in showing resistance against the aggression, is correct for the following reasons:

A person who blows himself up sacrifices his life for the survival of others. He dies for his homeland and his holy sites.

I think this is clear that it is halal. But to fortify it I will search for others, and personally I asked the scholar Whom I attend his lessons and he is an Azharite scholar, he said it is halal, he is defending his land with his body, and that the jews are occupants of his land by force, and he has no other way to defend except his body. And even another lady azharete scholar said the same, and she is always calling them shuhada'. But still Insha'Allah I will look for more.

So I hope that those who make fatwas, from their own wether muslims or non muslims will stop saying that those martyrs ar terrorists, with scholars making fatwa, then we cannot say anything else.

(Assalam)

[Muslimah]

as salam alykom

me myself I have a very personal opinion about it, but I always keep it to myself since I am no scholar. In general, one who goes for Jihad is eager to die, that was the amazing issue when Russians went into war with the Afghanis. They used to comment those people are crazy, they simply approach death with no hesitation. So the original purpose for any one who goes for Jihad is to die, not to escape death. Being sure of it by using explosive belts I am not sure if this puts one in a suicide position, because still Allah can just make him/her escape death

did i make sense????:confused:

I just wish they do it on military targets rather than buses or restuarants killing 5 or 6 women and children. We really need to do it right.

[radiyah]

did i make sense????

Yes u did sister Muslimah

I just wish they do it on military targets rather than buses or restuarants killing 5 or 6 women and children. We really need to do it right.

Yes, I wish that too.

(Assalam)

[honeycomb]

<i>Originally posted by radiyah </i><b>jihad in palestine is halal, & it is a must, & we are to help them with whatever we can. Now as for killing children & women along with others, we know this is not allowed in Islam, but still we are not to judge that & say that they are terrorists & they are going to hell.</b>

if we are not to judge them to hell, how did we seem to judge them to heaven?

plus you know very well killing children & women is not allowed. unjust murder is a big sin. but still you make it seem right for ppl to do unjust murder in the name of Allah? isn't that telling a lie about Allah? making Allah as an excuse to do unjust murder? isn't that simply wrong? i do agree with you that we don't know the fate of the suicide bombers - it's in Allah's Hands. true... but saying unjust killing is acceptable is NOT right. i think its making a <i>haram</i> a <i>halal</i>.

<i>Originally posted by radiyah </i><b>Reliable scholars have unanimously agreed that Palestinians who participate in the current Intifada are sincere and true Muslims, and that their Jihad is in the Cause of Allah.</b>

when done according to Rasulullah SAW's way - Jihad is true. but have you heard Rasulullah SAW sending teenagers to do suicide bombings to the Quraisy? did he told people to slay every Quraisy that stand in muslims way - women & children, young & old -- that every Quraisy must pay for hurting muslims? never.

when Bilal bin Rabah was tortured, Abu Bakr didn't slay the torturer. he peacefully bought Bilal & he became the first mua'zzin. when they wanna kill Rasulullah SAW, he moved to Medina & built an islamic country. that's a better way to survive, isn't it?

<i>Originally posted by radiyah </i><b>A person who blows himself up sacrifices his life for the survival of others. </b>

& also death of thers. also isn't suicide a crime that removes ones faith in Allah? apart from the unjust murder to the innocents? bombs are blind. it might kill muslims & believers too. it might even kill your own mom, dad etc...

<i>Originally posted by radiyah </i><b>Allah says in the Glorious Qura'n: \"And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good.\" (Al-Baqara:195).</b>

exactly, you're brilliant... <b>make not your hands contribute to destruction</b> and <b>do good</b>. the thought is right... but the question is, is the action right? imagine, if i kill my baby so that she will go to heaven, is that good? am i not a bad mother? won't i go to heaven? the thought is good, but the way it is done... is it right?

[Muslimah]

(Assalam) honeycomb

If u have noticed that all of us Muslims here were very careful about this point. Also if u noticed Radiyah did not post her own opinion, we all have our own emtions when it comes to this point. But rather she posted several fatwas. If u also noticed we are trying to search if there is any fatwas that say the opposite. If u can find any will be appreciated.

(subhanall We know that we are not allowed to judge any person, regardless of the apparent attitude, we only leave this to Allah.

All what we can say is that we really wish that they do jihad in the proper way that satisfies Allah. And the proper way depends a great deal on Intention

[radiyah]

Sister honeycomb, if u read what I posted correctly u would know as sister Muslimah said, that these are not my sayings these are fatwas by scholars, so when a scholar speaks we cannot talk, and the time of the prophet that u mentioned twice when the sahabas were tortured, please u should learn more about your relegion and the history.

in Islam there were three phases that on its basis Islam was spread:

1) spreading dawa, and the prophet was alone, and that is when they were in quraysh, and not many entered in Islam so they were weak and cant fight back.

2) Hijra to madeena and preparing to build the islamic army and nation.

3) Then call for jihad started, and they became stronger to fight back.

And we did not assure that they will go to Jannah, only Allah knows who goes to Jannah or not, and that is what we are trying to say, because others are saying they are going to hell.

So if u can find a fatwa that says that suicide bombing is haram, u are welcome to post it.

That is what we are trying to say.

(Assalam)

[radiyah]

I found a fatwa here by scholar shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen which says that suicide bombing is haram, but if the suicider does not know that it is haram, then we will leave his intention to Allah. And here is the full Fatwa by SHAYKH OTHAYMEEN:

http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/worshi...4/0010915_1.htm

And this is another one by SHAYKH IBN BAZ regarding Jihad in Palestine.

http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/worshi...3/0020406_1.htm

This one by SHAYKH ABDUL AZEEZ AL AAl - SHEIKH

http://www.fatwa-online.com/news/0020221.htm

Another one by SHAYKH BIN BAZ :

http://www.fatwa-online.com/fataawa/worshi...3/0020404_1.htm

This what I found for now, if others find more, this is the place to put the fatwa, and that is why I started this thread for.

(Assalam)

[Abohamza30]

As(Assalam) Sister and Brother.

The Jihad in Palestine Is not in any way Haram, the reason why it has been permissible to Jihad against Israeli Occupation in the current methods Hamas uses of belt Bombing and such has a history that needs to be clarified here in order why the Fatwas have been many and there has been some discripancy between fatawas. But jihad againt ZIONIST Jews and not All is permissible by all means because they save no means to kill a child or a womman or even rape her.

(Assalam)