INCEST stories in the Book of God ?

[wel_mel]

Salam all.

i was reading the Book "The Choice" by Agmed Deedat. which Sister Jennifer have sent it to me.. May Allah reward her and reward Brother Ahmed Deedat. and all Muslims everywhere ammen.

however, i asked someone Christian in YAHOO chat about INCEST , i told him if i give you a book which is telling you some stories in details about INCEST. would you give this Book to your Mother or daughter to read it ? he replied immediately NO. he doesnt know that the BOOK OF GOD "the Bible" is showing us the same stories.

then the question here, why the Bible tells us about 10 stories of INCEST ????? what is the moral of the stories ? there is NON.. so it is immoral.

here are the quotaions from the Bible regarding this issue. and for those who are Christians. HONESTLY, will you give these to your Mother, daughter, wife or your sister to read it ?

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INCEST means: "Sexual intercourse between two persons who are too closely related" (New Collins Dictionary). For example, between father and daughter, son and mother, father in law and daughter in law, brother and sister etc.

<b>INCEST IN GOD'S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS:</b>

a) "That night they "both the daughters of Lot" gave him "their father Lot" wine to drink, and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him..

"The next day the older daughter said to her sister, I slept with him last night: now let's get him drunk again tonight and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father.

"So that night they got him drunk, and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ...

in this way both of Lot's daughters became PREGNANT by their father"

Genesis 19:33-35

"FROM THE 'GOOD NEWS BIBLE IN TODAY'S ENGLISH"

in the older Versions , like KING JAMES and the ROMAN CATHOLIC versions "SEXUAL INTERCOURSE" is vaguely described as "COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER"

<b>INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON:</b>

"While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father's cubine"

Genesis 35:22

The older version of the Bible use the word "LAY" for sexual intercourse.

<b>INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW and DAUGHTER-IN-LAW:</b>

c) "when Judah saw her "Tamar, his daughter in law" he thought she was a prostitute, becase she had coverd her face.

"He went over to her at the side of the road and said "ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?" ' He did not know that she was his daughter in law'

"She said, what will you give me?" 'to have sex with me'

"He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK.

"She said, All right, If you will give me somthing to keep as a pledge untill you send the goat.

"..He gave them "the pledges" to her Then had INTERCOURSE , and she became PREGNANT"

Genesis 38:15-18 "Quoted from Good news bible"

out of the incestuous relationship between a father in law and his daughter in law, twins born, who were destined to become THE GREAT GRANDFATHERS OF JESUS CHRIST .. see mathew 1:3

"And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar....."

<b>INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER:</b>

d) ".. he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister not to be confused with Thamar in "C" above" and said unto her, come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister.

"And she answered him, Nay, my brother" Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God's own heart", do not force me ...

"But he would not listen to her; and since he was stronger than she was , he overpowered her and RAPED her (HIS SISTER).

2 Samuel 13:10-14

<b>WHOLE SALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHER:</b>

e) "So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the pllace roof, and in the sight of everyone Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father's concubines"

2 Samuel 16:22

".... in the sight of everyone" is rendered in the King James Version as "in the sight of all Israel" , This as a fulfilment of God's promise to David the King.

"Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee )DAVID) out of thine own house, and i will take THY WIVES before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour (actually thy son) and he shall lie(have sexual intercourse) wth thy wives in the sight of sun (for the whole world to watch the fun)

For thou didst it secretly(with Bath-sheba the wife of Uriah): but I will do this thing before ALL Israel, and BEFORE THE SUN"

2 Samuel 12:11-12

You can well guess where "Penthouse" and "Playboy" got their inspiration from. Wherfrom of not from the Book of Books ?

f) for other various types of INCEST see LEVITICUS 18:8-18 , 20:11-14 and 17-21.

all the above quoted from the Book "THE CHOICE" VOL 2 by BROTHER AHMED DEEDAT.

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actually there are more, but i dont want to make the thread longer than this.

SALAM all, and May Allah show YOU and US the right path.

wel_mel

[Muslimah]

La hawla wala qowata ila billah

once i discussed this with a Jewish woman I worked with, she said that is why we dont call the bible a holy book, we take it as a collection of stories.

[wel_mel]

Salam sister,

you know sister, i couldn’t post some other verses from the Bible concerning the same subject. i am actually shy to do that. but i will give the quotations from the Bible, for those who dont believe me:

a) Proverbs 7:7-22

song of songs 1:12-13 " some versoins used the words SONG OF SOLOMON. its the same"

c)song of songs 3:1-4

d)song of songs 4:1-7

e) judges 16:1

if you can read those stories, then please let us know what is the MORAL of them. but if you ashamed of reading them, or ashamed to show them to your daughters, wives, sisters etc .. then let me tell you that the Bible is not the word "WORK" of God.

Alhamdulelah who made us Muslims and give us the Qur'an as light and guidance .

salam

wel_mel