|
Am I wrong for feeling like I do about this?? (USA + Israel)
|
09-23-2003, 05:55 PM
I wonder as much why no one else is sharing thoughts here. Give me time, Insh a Allah to find you a reliable web site for what u need to know. Well be prepared it is tragic. The only thing I would like to stress is what you see as terrorism on the part of Palestineans is the only way for them to defend their land. I mean at one time, they categorized children who were throwing stones as terrorists. Imagine.
09-25-2003, 04:55 AM
Hello Michelle, How are you, I live in the US as well and I share many of your views on its foreign policy. Concerning the US's support of Israel...I personal see a paradox. If a cartoonist were to draw a picture of this, he would make a pumped up young guy beating a 100 year old cripped man and calling him evil:( . What I do understand is that Israel has nuclear weaponry and is the only state in the region (supposedly) to have it. But your never going to hear that on FOX:D . If Americans found out that we were giving away millions in THEIR hard earned tax dollars to support Israel, then I think that most Americans would protest AGAINST Israel. There are currentyly 34 known Jewish lobbiests in Congressional Jobs here in the US. Occupation is a reality, and even my textbook tells me that 750,000 Palestinians were uprooted from their homes in 1948. Talk about sickening...they were just civilians. I thought that out of all people in the world the Jews would know what injustice was back then...you know, after the Holocaust. I remember as a kid, I used to live in this big Jewish community and we used to go on field trips to Holocaust Museums in my suburb. I remember some of the horrible pictures shown to us, I remeber how one Jewish girl started crying. It was a sad day, but even more depressing was the fact that they never told us about Palestine and how it had atrocities commited against it! I mean this was a museum of Jewish History, there has to be a mention of Palestine somewhere!! I totaly disagree with sucidie bombs and terrorism, I can't belive anyone could hate someone so much. There is no just cause for it, but I think fighting against Israel's military is sufficient, just not killing innocent bystanders like Israel. Sadly there was none. This didn't become a religious fight until Israel declared that it was going to allow Jews to come to it from anywere in the world. Now, the Jewish population is very small, something like 20 mil. But the statement represents a discrimination...any Jew can come because they are a citizen (no matter where they are in the world), but the Palestinians...who live in shacks next door can't. Its great to see such an open person willing to learn Michelle, you are truly a blessing, may Allah swt guide you on your journey. 
09-26-2003, 02:28 PM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by MichelleSeeking </i><b></b>Hi Michelle, You might want to try this one: www.palestinecronicle.com One of the editors there published a book of what happened in Jenin. You can read a review on it there. Take care, Jennifer
09-27-2003, 02:59 AM
Whoa! Rewind please! Did I read you right??? "If Americans found out that we were giving away millions in THEIR hard earned tax dollars to support Israel..." We are doing WHAT??? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Can you please tell me WHY Israel needs OUR American tax dollars while our own schools and fire departments and medicare and roads and hungry + homeless people and Welfare moms are getting their support cut out from under them under the banner, "We (the government) don't have enough money to help you any more" ???????? I'm serious. Can you tell me facts and figures by any chance? I really want to know about this because I've totally been kept in the dark here....
09-27-2003, 03:01 AM
"Occupation is a reality, and even my textbook tells me that 750,000 Palestinians were uprooted from their homes in 1948. Talk about sickening...they were just civilians." Can you explain how they were "uprooted" please? And where were they replanted?? What happened to their homes, buisinesses, property and belongings?? Thanks so much for the link http://www.palestinechronicle.com/ ![[Image: biggrin.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
09-27-2003, 03:10 AM
Here are some chilling facts that just made my eyes pop out of my head like this: :eek: By James J. David The original Middle East Pop Quiz was published by Charley Reese back on February 8, 1998. Since then, there have been many additions to the quiz which I have added. With many thanks to Charley Reese and hoping he makes a full recovery from his recent illness, I present the updated version. Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons? Answer: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? Answer: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions? Answer: Israel. Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire? Answer: Israel. Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)? Answer: Israel. Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed? Answer: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war? Answer: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses? Answer: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated? Answer: Israel. Q: In what country in the MiddleEast was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated? Answer: Israel. Q: In what country in the Middle East did theman who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister? Answer: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors? Answer: Israel. Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union? Answer: Israel. Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon? Answer: Israel. Q. What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody? Answer: Israel Q. What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque? Answer: Israel Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders? Answer: Israel. Q. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children? Answer: Israel Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes? Answer: Israel. Q. Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-thind of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because " We control America?" Answer: Israel Q. What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing. Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehichles, bulldozers, or tanks? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing? Answer: Israel Q. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children? Answer: Israel Q.. Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes? Answer: Israel Q: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies? Answer: Iraq James J. David is a retired Brigadier General and a graduate of the U.S. Army's Command and General Staff College, and the National Security Course, National Defense University, Washington DC. He served as a Company Commander with the 101st Airborne Division in the Republic of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970 and also served nearly 3 years of Army active duty in and around the Middle East from 1967-1969.) The one that made my blood go cold was this: Q. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because " We control America?" Answer: Israel I need to find out who said that, when they said it, and why. Why would Israel think that it controls America? Does it?? :confused: What a confusing mess! Can anyone help me out here? I need to find out the whole truth about this! Does anyone have a reliable internet web site or book that I can use to learn the true history of the new Israel? I want to find out exactly what took place behind the scenes that brought all of this about. Thanks!
09-27-2003, 06:50 AM
09-27-2003, 07:27 AM
as salam a`alalman itab`alhoda Michelle check this link also on the forum, Insh aAllah you will find the info u need: http://www.islamsms.com/bb/showthread....d=1106#post1106
09-27-2003, 07:31 AM
Quote:<i>Originally posted by MichelleSeeking </i><b>Here are some chilling facts that just made my eyes pop out of my head like this: :eek: </b>I was about to bring to you attention the fact about the nuclear weapons and Israel refusal to sign. I thought you knew. It is a well know fact. And I also thought u knew that they control America, although I am not sure which one said it.
09-27-2003, 06:42 PM
I honestly had no idea about nuclear weapons OR the fact that Israel think that they control America. Can you please explain to me why/how Israel "controls America?" I am honestly THAT clueless!! |
|
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
