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101 Contradictions in the Bible:
101 Clear Contradictions in the Bible
Shabir Ally
1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple?
Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?
Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab?
Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
17. How many were the children of Zattu?
Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
18. How many were the children of Azgad?
One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
19. How many were the children of Adin?
Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
20. How many were the children of Hashum?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?
Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows:
29,818 (Ezra)
31,089 (Nehemiah)
23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?
Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)
24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?
Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)
25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?
Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
No (Joshua 15:63)
26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?
Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
Hell (Luke 3:23)
27. Jesus descended from which son of David?
Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke3:31)
28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?
Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
Neri (Luke 3:27)
29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?
Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
30. Who was the father of Uzziah?
Joram (Matthew 1:8)
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)
31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?
Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)
32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ?
Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16)
33. Who was the father of Shelah?
Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)
34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?
Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
No (John 1:19-21)
35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?
Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)
36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?
One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.
37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?
By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)
38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?
By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43)
39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?
Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death.
40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?
Yes (Mark 6:8)
No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)
41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?
Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
No (Luke 9:9)
42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?
Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
No (John 1:32,33)
43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?
Yes (John 1:32, 33)
No (Matthew 11:2)
44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14)
45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?
Yes (Matthew 21:12)
No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)
46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once?
Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)
47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?
Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12)
48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial?
The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times (John 13:38)
Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark 14:30) . When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?
Yes (John 19:17)
No (Matthew 27:31-32)
50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?
Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)
51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?
No. I have said nothing secretly (John 18:20)
Yes. He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him Why do you speak to them in parables? He said, To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given (Matthew 13: 1 0-11)
52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?
On the cross (Mark 15:23)
In Pilates court (John 19:14)
53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus?
Yes (Mark 15:32)
No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)
54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?
Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, Today you will be with me in Paradise (Luke 23:43)
No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, I have not yet ascended to the Father (John 20:17)
55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?
Yes (Acts9:7)
No (Acts22:9)
56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground?
Yes (Acts 26:14)
No (Acts 9:7)
57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Pauls duties were to be?
Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)
58. When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague?
Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)
59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?
Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)
60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus?
He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)
61. How did Judas die?
After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
62. Why is the field called Field of Blood?
Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)
63. Who is a ransom for whom?
The Son of Man came...to give his life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45). Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all... (I Timothy 2:5-6)
The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright (Proverbs 21:18)
64. Is the law of Moses useful?
Yes. All scripture is... profitable... (2 Timothy 3:16)
No. . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness... (Hebrews 7:18)
65. What was the exact wording on the cross?
This is Jesus the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37)
The King of the Jews (Mark 15:26)
This is the King of the Jews (Luke 23:38)
Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (John 19:19)
66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?
Yes (Matthew 14:5)
No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)
67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?
Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Lukes gospel (Luke 6:12-16)
68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collectors office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name?
Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)
69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
After (Mark 14:12-17)
Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilates judgment hail because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)
70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?
Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
No. (John 12:27)
71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray?
Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)
72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer?
Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42)
73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?
Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39)
74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what language did he speak?
Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46)
Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34)
75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died?
Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46)
"It is finished" (John 19:30)
76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
Yes (Matthew 8:5)
No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)
77.
Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5)
78.
God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3)
Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)
79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?
No (John 3:13)
Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11)
80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread?
Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)
81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs?
Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16: 1)
82. When did the women buy the spices?
After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1)
Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then, on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)
83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?
Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1)
When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)
84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?
To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)
85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived?
They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb (John 20:1)
As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)
86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?
Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men ... in dazzling apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote)
No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2)
87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react?
Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him (Matthew 28:9)
On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me... (John 20:11 to 17)
88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples?
Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me (Matthew 2 8: 10)
Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17)
89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?
Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise ... (Acts 1:4)
90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?
To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28)
To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)
91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?
The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt (Genesis 37:28)
The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36)
Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt (Genesis 45:4)
92. Does God change his mind?
Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: I repent that I have made Saul King... (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
No. God will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent (I Samuel 15:29)
Yes. And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel (I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions:
i. The Lord was sorry that he made man (Genesis 6:6)
I am sorry that I have made them (Genesis 6:7)
ii. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people (Exodus 32:14).
iii. (Lots of other such references).
93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat:
Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21)
The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.
94. Who killed Goliath?
David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)
95. Who killed Saul?
Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.... Thus Saul died... (I Samuel 31:4-6)
An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)
96. Does every man sin?
Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God.. (I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John 3: 1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)
97. Who will bear whose burden?
Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2)
Each man will have to bear his own load (Galatians 6:5)
98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?
Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)
99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
After his baptism, the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days ... (Mark 1:12-13)
Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)
100. Was baby Jesus life threatened in Jerusalem?
Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 23)
No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40)
101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?
They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God (Matthew 14:33)
They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)
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It is my experience that many Muslims try to evade a discussion of the real issues regarding the truth of Islam and Christianity by pushing "101 Bible Contradictions" (or similar compilations) into our face. Muslim web sites abound in articles and collections attacking the integrity of the Bible by means of contradiction lists. Many have the attitude that "because the Bible is riddled with contradictions, errors, absurdities and problems, there is no need for me to make the effort to understand it." With such an attitude no real dialog can develop. Our goal is to get beyond superficial word games to discussing the relevant core issues over which we differ.
It has mostly proven useless to explain one set of contradictions because there is always another one that can be added to the list. It is important to be able to give explanations of the difficult Biblical passages including those that seem contradictory. We are working hard to provide good answers to honest questions in our Bible Commentary and the section on alleged Bible contradictions. However, most Muslims' rejection of the Bible is not based on such contradiction lists. For most Muslims this rejection is an integral part of their faith long before they have ever seen any such "contradictions". These lists are usually only used as a convenient means to justify a rejection of the Bible which would otherwise be very difficult to explain rationally.
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Casualties of self-described religious warriors, 3000 unarmed victims were massacred on 9/11/2001. On March 11, 2004 hundreds of simple commuters in Madrid, Spain experienced the same fate, at the same hands, with 1400 left maimed. Israelis know intimately the nature and intents of Islam, while the children of Beslan, Russia had their up-close and personal introduction to ‘real Islam’ in 2004. These historical facts are simply indisputable. Muslim terrorists kill people in the name of their God, while vast numbers tolerate such actions. To civilized human beings, such acts in Gods name are a great sacrilege. Muslims, however, seem largely oblivious to the self-evident truth that the greatest blasphemers in any religion are those who appoint themselves God’s executioners.
Muslims seem to have enormous capacity to absorb huge contradictions and great hypocrisies, remaining completely unfazed. With nary a blink, moderates and extremists alike call monsters who target Jewish children in Israel ‘mujahedeen’ (holy warriors). Arab Muslim societies, instead of developing any empathy for the victims of Muslim terrorists, race backward into ever deeper superstition, bigotry, and a culture of blame which renders reformation impossible. Huge parts of the Muslim world are afflicted with what can only be called world-wide denial, if not a deep psychosis characterized by a false sense of superiority and irrational hatred of all others, particularly those capable of defending themselves.
If a small group of Muslim terrorists are humiliated in Abu-Graib prison, and all Muslims take it personally, gathering in great numbers to demand revenge. But the treatment of Iraqi western ‘collaborators’ by the prisoners ‘peers’ evokes little concern. If any American (non-Muslim) soldier were to be captured, is there any doubt as to his fate? Muslims around the world appear largely indifferent to the most in-humane treatment of infidels in Iraq. Many even relish videos and reports of atrocities as if it is some sort of Islamic national sport (”An American is killed with a road-side bomb, …score one for Muhammad!”)
Horrendous crimes are being committed by Muslim Arabs against their Muslim brothers, sisters, and children in Sudan, while a deafening silence is observed throughout the Arab world. Arabs know all about what is going on in Darfur, even Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya have started reporting some aspects of the crisis, but they don't react. Muslim public opinion with regard to the ongoing genocide has remained muted, causing barely an eyebrow to be raised. Yet had the slaughter targeted Arab Muslims perpetrated by Infidels, there would have been an uproar.
A poor Palestinian child in proximity to terrorists is unintentionally hurt in Israel and Muslims are incensed, but when hundreds of children are massacred in Beslan, those same sensitive Muslims seem to feel nothing, just go about their business as if nothing happened. The ‘best’ people also seem incapable of feeling pain for any of the hundreds of child victims of Palestinian homicide-bombers. When the victim is not Muslim, or insufficiently Muslim, hyper-sensitivity suddenly turns to mind-boggling apathy. With the knowledge that the victims in Beslan were not Muslim and the attackers were, acute empathy and compassion is instantly replaced with casual indifference. Yet if the attackers would have been non-Muslim and the children and their parents Muslim, is there any doubt protests and revenge attacks would have spanned the globe?
If a Palestinian is killed in Israel, even if he has been involved in hundreds of attacks against Jews, Muslims worldwide chant and demand revenge. Yet if hundreds or thousands of Spaniards in Madrid, or Americans in New York, are massacred, their stone-cold hearts feel nothing.
A U.S. Marine in Iraq kills a wounded terrorist, in a place where wounded terrorists are a fatal threat, and Muslims are mad as hell. But when vile Muslim murderers kill an helpless, benevolent woman serving poor and needy Iraqi Muslims for decades, Muslims can only say, "Bush and Blair are at fault."
Islamic politicians demand western societies show tolerance toward Islamic laws and customs. But when Dutchman filmmaker Theo Van Gogh was silenced by an Islamic assassin, the same voices suggest he brought such misfortune upon himself by insulting the words of the Qur’an. Islam crushes resistance, protest, and disobedience in all lands where it has the upper hand, while taking full advantage of protections of speech, religion, movement, and association in its ongoing efforts to make host lands ‘Islamic’. Playing a political game, spokespersons demand their adoptive societies show tolerance for the most intolerant, restrictive, harsh, cruel, misogynist and reactionary ideology in human history.
The ‘Red-Crescent’ was formed to be an answer to the western ‘Red-Cross’, yet it follows strict Islamic doctrine in limiting its services to Muslim Brothers and Sisters. When terrible, brutal things happen to non-believers anywhere, at the hands of Muslims or not, shoulders are shrugged as they say “it is the will of Allah”. But such antipathy disappears when Muslims strike a blow maiming any part of a population of non-believers, say …Americans, Indians, Russians, Jews, Australians, Italians, Spanish, Brits, Philippines, etc etc. Such malice serves as proof manifest that their ‘most compassionate, most-merciful’ Allah is indeed God. Hell, they seem to get the same warm giddy feeling of self-righteousness and superiority when Sunni and Shiite kill each other in large numbers.
Muslims throughout Europe and the US were enraged when Tariq Ramadan (an Islamic ‘intellectual’ with radical, anti-Christian, anti-American ideas) was denied a visa and so tenure at the University of Notre Dame in Indiana. Suddenly so many Muslims were terribly worried about stifling intellectual freedom. Of course no one thinks to ask just how many Christian or openly anti-Islamic scholars have jobs at Islamic universities, as such a question is unthinkable. It is amusing to see Muslim folk rise to promote diversity, freedom, moral values, or equality. Sort of like the owners of the sunken Titanic coming out to promote ‘Iceberg Awareness Week’.
The intractable problems embedded within Islamic doctrine and culture are often quite obvious, to anyone but Muslims who seem to have their Islamic blinders super-glued on. Whereas the rest of us usually see ourselves as humans first, Muslims see themselves as Muslims first. As such Islam is an anti-individual, anti-human religion, As in Gene Roddenberry's classical Star Trek ‘Borg’ culture, individuality and humanity become the first causality of ‘the Muslim collective’ (Ummah). Reinforced by the concept that they are the ‘best’ of people, the only individuals of worth to their Allah, they easily view all misfortunes of non-brothers as a good thing. Similarity, if any ‘Brother’ or ‘Sister’ is humiliated or hurt, it is an evil thing, doubly so if the misfortune comes at the hands of vile non-believers. Such feelings are not attenuated by the fact that Muslim suffering if usually a natural consequence of the acts of Muslim militants. As they pile one misfortune after another upon themselves and their communities, in the Muslim collective they easily escape all culpability. Islam offers them a Teflon theological/psychological shield from guilt or regret. Being neither blind or stupid, they plainly see the blood on their own hands, yet remain unmoved in sincere belief that Allah is pleased at such a spectacle. With introspection unlikely, the prospects for enlightenment remain dim.
In many lands, Muslims danced in the streets when 3000 innocent Americans were killed. Today, many worldwide take glee witnessing the various beheadings, and bodies drug and hung over the Euphrates river. Tongues click in many ‘peaceful’ households for what passes as spirituality to these miserable people. George Orwell, an expert in ‘groupthink’, said it correctly: "There are spectacles before which even satire herself stands mute." Islamimaniacs strain and choke on a nat, yet an adult camel easily slides down their throat with no problem whatsoever.
In many parts of this country, you can hear both Muslims and other non-Christian groups discredit Jesus and the Bible. Muslims and others publicly mock Christians in school halls and communities. They do it openly, without fear of reprisals. Liberalism (the PC police) allow it, and the ACLU vigorously protect, if not encourage, Christian persecution. But the same groups, champions of individual rights and free speech, openly oppose any who suggest that Mohammed is a poor example of a prophet, or that Islam is the ideology and path of terrorism, calling it hate speech. An opinion on a religion is that, just an opinion, unless it is found to be remotely offensive to the delicate feelings of ‘peaceful’ Muslims. Now anything and everything, regardless if it has foundation in fact and history, can be regulated under Judicial oversight of ‘hate speech’. When Islam calls Jews ‘pigs’, or non-believers ‘Infidels’, and praises suicide bombers and Jihadists worldwide, …that is simply free speech. Anyone suggesting otherwise is called ‘Islamophobic’ or bigoted’. Apparently in Muslim culture the ‘Pot’ pretty regularly calls the ‘Kettle’ “black”, and no-one takes any notice. Muslims claim no one is allowed to criticize Islam and the Qur’an, essentially claiming principals of free speech are subservient to Islamic hyper-sensitivity to criticism. Pious Muslims tell us that critics of the teachings or person of Muhammad are blasphemers who have lost their right to live. Oh, …and Islam is a religion of ‘tolerance’ and ‘peace’.
Even our own ‘liberal’ Judicial system seems to agree with such nonsense, letting one group openly discredit and disparage another, yet not allowing the other group the same right and privilege. As the concepts of justice and equality are laid waste by such practices, does the word prejudicial come to mind? The scales of justice held by the blindfolded lady Justice can not help but become badly tipped when the standards are shifted from morality based on the ‘Ten Commandments’ to medieval Sharia concepts of jurisprudence. Does this sort of PC policing constitute state-sponsored bigotry? Are those who point to the realities of 1400 years of violent worldwide Jihad, and news and historical accounts of non-Muslim suffering at the hands of faithful Muslims, themselves bigots? Is all truth remotely connected to Islam and Muslims now to be censored, and regulated? Does this mean the eventual creation of an American Gulag, to be prepared to receive intellectuals, historians, Hindus, Christians, Jews, Atheists, and Agnostics found to have insulted hyper-sensitive Muslims?
Were the millions of victims persecuted by devout Muslims following the enshrined tenants of anti-Semitism, bigotry, and racism, themselves bigots deserving of their fates? Were the 3000+ infidels brutally murdered 9/11 deserving of their fate at the hands of Islam? Were they truly worthless and ‘unloved’ by Allah? Are Muslims really superior and entitled to the lands, wealth, and lives of non-believers?
In Iraq, nary a peep is heard as devout brothers kill while using a white flag as a cover, civilians are exploited as shields, or passers-by are blown apart with or without damaging the declared enemy. Add to this the deafening silence connected to hundreds of kidnapping of civilians, UN and NGO workers, and the decapitation of all such “prisoners.” In Muslim minds, condemnation is unthinkable for reasons of faith and a theology which dehumanizes non-Muslims, and with which many western elitists concur. Morally blind, Islamic apologists claim that normal outrage toward such actions are negated by invoking the ever effective liberal weapon of ‘moral relativism’. Undoubtedly, this kind of logic/response was first perfected in elementary school-yards when as children they responded to criticism by covering their ears and chanting “whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!” The absence of outrage is foolish, cowardly, or at least an act of self-deception, if not the unintended revelation of a limited IQ. The desired effect is to water-down Islamic terrorist acts and render them ‘moral’. The only thing those making such lame arguments prove is that their own hearts and souls clearly lack normal human empathy, demonstrating they are in perfect moral harmony with the murderous inhuman monsters they excuse. Over and over they repeat “One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter” then sit back smugly oblivious that actually one mans terrorist, ...is another mans terrorist! In fact, any man who worships or thinks like a terrorist justifying terrorist acts, is also a terrorist. Lost are those incapable of seeing and feeling the centuries of pain, suffering, and oppression connected with devout followers of Islam. Having little or insufficient basis in fact, and no moral compass to base any judgment, yet they feel perfectly qualified to viscously lash out with PC name calling and PC judgment. Name calling is, of course, devoid of logic or reason and only serves to prevent rational discussion which might lead to findings based on fact and the subsequent reasonable judgment based on the same. Name callers want everything to be bounced against PC standards with no basis but emotion, and often irrational emotion at that. By adopting the Islamic cause as their own, the Left is siding with a fascist enemy who is working to extinguish values they themselves claim to honor and best represent: women’s rights, gay rights, separation between religion and state, freedom from slavery, etc. etc.
Muslim spokesmen claim to oppose intolerance, then in the same breath attack anyone who exposes the extremism of any Muslim brother, calling him/her a ‘bigot’ and ‘Islamophobe’. To Muslim intellectuals, anyone critical of Islam is intolerant, yet it remains acceptable to exercise on such individuals extreme forms of intolerance, up to death. Indeed, dare complain about a very real history and culture of intolerance, and be called intolerant for even equating the word intolerance to such facts. Islamists play well the injured party, thereby sweeping all real issues under the carpet in a barrage of name-calling. Such antics are tactical, but meaningless as the poor ‘victim’ escapes having to engage in any real debate to try and defend the indefensible.
Muslims also play the ‘race’ card to deflect honest and fair debate as well as any group ever has. All the while Islam continues to persecute and subjugate people around the world, using the pen to project a false image opposite of reality, with the sword in the other hand cutting down new victims daily. As in all times, today there is great conflict between the sometime opposing principals of ‘free speech’ and ‘political correctness’. For some reason, our society obsessed with both these values can not yet call a Muslim bigot a bigot, or a Muslim liar a liar, or a Muslim anti-Semite an anti-Semite, or a Muslim murderer a murderer, or identify Muslim hypocrisy no matter how obvious, nor call Muslim traitors treasonous, and on, and on, and on... Free speech has become subservient to our cultural ‘thought police’. Hollywood icons, media elitists, liberals, and self described intellectuals willingly operate as unwitting tools of the Islamic misinformation campaign, remaining blissfully oblivious that in the Islamic vision of the final world order they would be the first targets. Should Islam ever take power in this country, they would be offered neither gratitude nor mercy for their earlier collaboration. They should remember what happened to the socialists, intellectuals, and communists who helped bring the Iranian Mullahs to power, …they were all slaughtered!
There is sufficient basis in theological fact based on their own sacred works, and further basis in both distant and recent history, to identify Islam as the most bigoted, intolerant, and racist religion in human history. The harm it has caused both believers and non-believers alike is greater than any political or religious movement in Human history. Yet the few brave authors and historians pointing to any subset of the innumerable examples of such harm are called bigoted by Muslim bigots. “Lies, lies!”, they scream, claiming conspiracy. If the perpetrator is not immediately available to be stoned or hung, the first line of response is to issue fatwa after fatwa calling for the death of all who insult Muhammad or Islam. How is it that an entire religious culture can continue to throw such adolescent tantrums, yet still hold sway in the minds of so many. Is it some sort of mysterious enlightenment unknown by those who have not yet accepted Muhammad as their prophet, or simply fear and/or ignorance. I would put my money on the latter, particularly after studying in detail the particulars of Islam the theology, Islam the political structure, Islam the economic system, and Islam the social culture (all different faces of the same Islam). What is really stunning is that so many believe in a doctrine to dominate and subjugate others, believing in a man who told them God sanctifies murder, slavery, lying, rape, arson, and thievery against other human beings (albeit non-believers), as acts of great piety which will be rewarded in Islamic heaven. Core Islam, ‘Real Islam’, teaches religious apartheid and promotes violence against non-Muslims. Slavery and persecution of every sort (based on religion, sex, and/or race) is rampant in Muslim cultures, including the many non-integrated Muslim communities in Western lands, yet the same group with the biggest problem continue to scream and complain the loudest.
Islam cannot be compared to other benign forms of religion, as there is really very little in common to compare outside of the term ‘religion’. Comparing Islam’s ethics, or its followers ‘acts’ to other religions, Islam does not have recognizable spiritual standards that can be called lofty. Many Muslims have been brainwashed since birth to believe that violent Jihad is the highest expression of personal spirituality. Indeed, any preview of its ethical precepts in relation to conduct toward non-Muslims are deplorable by any standard of human and civil behavior, …except Muhammad’s personal standards of Arab Imperialism expressed in the Qur’an and the Hadith. As such, with neither spiritual nor ethical precepts of a genuinely religious nature, and because it aims to conquer the world, it’s much more realistic to call it a political system. Politically correct or not…, sensitive or not…, the philosophy and methods of group control, otherwise known as Islam, is simply not a religion. We must stop trying to protect them from the truth, and hide from it ourselves. And why, exactly, should anyone really care about the ‘feelings’ of people following a cult seeking to kill us, our families, and dedicated to the destruction of everything we value. When they show a little empathy, sensitivity, and remorse for current and past atrocities, then perhaps we can approach our relationship with a little more delicacy. Until then, why tip toe about carefully worrying about their tender feelings? I mean, they aim to brutally kill us all anyway and take our young women as sex slaves, who cares if their feelings are a little hurt. Should not we all become much more concerned with our own tender feelings of survival, or the feelings of the tens to hundreds of millions of victims who in the past 1400 years suffered extreme horror, pain, humiliation, and death, at the hands of devout Muslims practicing Jihad. Instead of respecting and protecting it, shouldn’t their precious religion be mocked by all of humanity to avoid reinforcing their own silly grandiose feelings of superiority, which is at the root of their dangerous psychosis?
If Islam could possibly permanently cut-out huge sections of their sacred works, removing teachings related to slavery, polygamy, violence, and bigotry, then it may yet serve a positive role in the lives of its adherents. Absent that, it can only prevent the advancement of societies trapped in such nonsense, and represent a threat to human progress in general. The world can not and should not wait for Islam to spontaneously reform itself, as its own tenants prevent that eventuality. This corset of political correctness is way too tight and must be loosed, …before it kills us all. Of course, now I’M a ‘bigot’ for stating the obvious. (“No, … Muslims are bigots!” … No, YOU are the Infidel bogot” … “No, YOU are a much bigger bigot, and an IDIOT!” … “No you are a Zionist PIG, a racist, and a intellectual MORON!” … “No you are!” … “No YOU are! NAH nah NA NAH naaa” … “Whatever you say bounces off me and STICKS to YOU” … “LIAR! I’m going to KILL you, you infidel son a prostitute” … “I’m TELLING!” … And on, …and on, …and on…
If it were not so deadly serious, …it would be almost funny.
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Just to point out no religon is perfect :)
the interesting thing is is christians contridictions is in the written word lets face it wether john the baptist knew Jesus before the baptism is irrelevant to the word of God. If we follow the 10 commandments and live our lives according to the teachings of Jesus then we have little to worry about in relation to the bible.
where as the contradictions in Islam seem to be more of thought and action.
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01-02-2007, 08:57 AM
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Quote:Just to point out no religon is perfect :)
Does that mean the religons "source" even God is imperfect?
Nauzubillah.
Correcttion to you OPINION , Islam is Perfect.
Human beings are not.
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Quote:Does that mean the religons "source" even God is imperfect?
Nauzubillah.
Correcttion to you OPINION , Islam is Perfect.
Human beings are not.
you can twist my words all you want :)
religeon isnt God, religeon is the way HUMANS interact and show their faith to their god.
the Bible and the Qu'ran were written by people, and regardless of what you may think all people are flawed
if Islam is Perfect, then give me Imperfect any day.
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01-02-2007, 12:42 PM
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Quote:you can twist my words all you want :)
religeon isnt God, religeon is the way HUMANS interact and show their faith to their god.
the Bible and the Qu'ran were written by people, and regardless of what you may think all people are flawed
if Islam is Perfect, then give me Imperfect any day.
The Quraan is NOT Mans handywork, (and your argument will be but a Human physically wrote the words)
I’m not twisting your words or hands. If you didn’t mean it the way I interpret, then say so and clarify it for me.....no need to be bitchy
If you dont have Islam You have the imperfect already (with all due respect and Love toward Christians of every denominations, I respect but dont agree with your nations beliefs, need i say im not a terrorist ) smile .
Look man This is something I believe and you NEVER will, unless God changes it by his will. And I humbly state this.
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basically what im saying is man receives the word of god, but he can only use his knowledge and understanding to interpret that to the people, it isnt the intention of the author to misrepresent but more often than not scriptures of all faiths are generally tainted by the prejudices of the author. its these prejdices and misunderstanding which leads to contradictions.
this thread irritated me because, its not whats written down thats important its how we hold God in our hearts and our actions in this life that deturmines what happens when we die.
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What is written down is important....... it brings God into the heart through Knowlege of Him. That's why He sent the Qur'an... the "Bible" was leading people astray... Muhammed (pbuh) sent everyone on a straight path.
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Quote:The Quraan is NOT Mans handywork, (and your argument will be but a Human physically wrote the words)
Humans <i>did</i> write the words in the Koran. Humans wrote the words in all of the various Korans. That's not an argument, it's fact.
Simple, really.
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