The Quran on Human Embryonic Development:

[Muslimah]

Bismillah

Ruggedtouch...I hope you stick around. This board needs you.

Contrary to my dear brother Wael's opinion, I share your hope CC, because Ruggedtouch's attitude and behaviour, has much to show to other visitors of the board. And to your, and his surprise, he is very beneficial. :) :wavey:

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


I keep getting surprised to comments such as:


from the testicles


Pls CC, do the research you intended to, not to verify the validiy of Quran, we know it is true Alhamdulelah. But for your own sake, I take it that u didnt accept a one scientist opinion from Wael, so why would u take it from a poster.


Just search what are exactly the parts of a male human reproductive system responsible for compsing the semen which yes at the final stage is contained in the testicles. But how many other parts share the composition process?????


I will let u do it.


:) see, that is why I support RT staying....he is really fun. :)

[Ruggedtouch]

Muslimah Posted:

excellent point Ruggedtouch, and how a naked eye would access this evolution inside the womb of a woman, unless of course, at that time, they had to cut like at least 6 women in different stages of pregnancy to monitor the development???
And may be you need to refine your Arabic knowledge, I understand you do have some knowledge of arabic gained I think thru working in the Middle East, as far as I remember??


"He has created man from Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge), then behold, this same (man) becomes an open opponent." Quran 16:4. In Arabic, a nutfah, is exactly the amalgmation output of semen and an egg. Or in other words a fertilized ovum. Ok.

Quite simple, Muslimah. The Greeks were pioneers in the concept of Autopsy. In fact, the phrase "autopsy" is derived from the Greek "<i>to see for oneself</i>". "Islam" was really quite fortunate to have this wealty of knowledge to draw from (even if islamic apologists claim to have discovered this data which of course they did not).


Applying a bit of common sense, there would also be the unfortunate results of a spontaneous fetal abortion, especially in the first trimester, to provide a evidence of the above. Simple, really

And I think your suggestion of tea was being nice, I would take it so, but I just had coffee.

I'm a coffee drinker too.

[Ruggedtouch]

Bismillah


I keep getting surprised to comments such as:


from the testicles


Pls CC, do the research you intended to, not to verify the validiy of Quran, we know it is true Alhamdulelah. But for your own sake, I take it that u didnt accept a one scientist opinion from Wael, so why would u take it from a poster.


Just search what are exactly the parts of a male human reproductive system responsible for compsing the semen which yes at the final stage is contained in the testicles. But how many other parts share the composition process?????


I will let u do it.


:) see, that is why I support RT staying....he is really fun. :)

Do you really believe that semen is produced "<i>from between the loins and ribs</i>"?

[Ruggedtouch]

Bismillah


:) see, that is why I support RT staying....he is really fun. :)

Sarcasm is a poor substitute for responding with honesty and openness.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah

Sarcasm is a poor substitute for responding with honesty and openness.

Who said I was being sacrastic, I m very serious, I think u ve been here (even with a break)long enough to know sarcasm is not my approach and that Alhamdulelah, in any case so long as the poster have a valid point that is worth reading to start with and thus, needs responding, that was not tackled before I do Alhamdulelah. But u r really fun, at least to me. Simply because you are living under the impression that u can come here and dedicate effort in hope to shake Muslims' faith on one hand and deter non Muslims from joing on the other hand. This is fun to me. because being a Muslim is a major blessing, and fills one heart with much content and serenity that is incomparable and can never, again never be attained except thru submitting to Allah. And for non Muslims to join or not, this is not our problem, since the benefit will only return on the given individual and the choice is his/hers to accept the invaluable gift or not.


But your attitude and behaviour as I said in my previous post above is essential to coin a certain notion to those who are seeking to understand how may a group of non muslims may go. However, most of the time you seem to be overtaken - as reflected in your triumphant tone- by putting us down and making us loose a debate. Just for the record, when u receive no replies from Muslims, the case is totally otherwise. Now, refer to the first part of this same post to get the message.


That is all for me here, lest I be hijacking the thread, and Dan may come after me.... :)

[Curious Christian]

CC thinks that Ruggedtouch is doing a very good job by guiding the Muslims towards the Truth "Atheism".. Amazing!!!

A ) I haven't read enough of what Ruggedtouch has written to know that he is an atheist.


B ) You sound frustrated with this atheist. Is he challenging you?


C ) Why do Muslims cling to this embryo nonsense as proof that their Quran is from God. Don't you have anything else?

[Curious Christian]

By the way Wel Mel...why do you put so much stock in this embryo stuff (which is proven to be old knowledge) and ignore facts such as this from the Old Testament?


Hydrothermal vents are described in two books of the Bible written before 1400BC—more than 3,000 years before their discovery by science.


Genesis 7:11


In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.


Job 38:16


Have you entered the springs of the sea?


Or have you walked in search of the depths?


Now...it is a fact that the Bible in two books written by two different authors describes something which science didn't know about until 1977 when the first Hyrothermal vent was discovered. No other text about Hydrotermal vents predate the Book of Genesis or Job.


I am a Christian, as my name says. However, it is not because the bible accurately described something which was impossible to know. In other words...I don't go around all the time pointing to this (as Muslims point to the embryo) and expect people to convert!


In fact this Muslim anti-Christian site http://www.answering-christianity.com/or...f_life.htm talks about Thermal vents about half way down the page and it says that they weren't discovered until the mid 70s...but it makes NO MENTION that the bible described them over a thousand years before!

[prodigy]

In fact this Muslim anti-Christian site http://www.answering-christianity.com/or...f_life.htm talks about Thermal vents about half way down the page and it says that they weren't discovered until the mid 70s...but it makes NO MENTION that the bible described them over a thousand years before!

The site was build only to response false accusations against Islam by fanatic christians, becoz of these fanatics this site need to be alive. we muslims dont depend on other's religion to find out errors and lie to others that that religion is wrong and my religion is OK. it was the christian who at first made answering islam site which was against Islam and was a lie and in response to that muslim had to start this project.


Read the purpose of building answering christianity site here http://www.answering-christianity.com/purpose.htm


sigh


now as regard to not mentioning what bible described then plz mail the author of the site and try let him know what u feel, . u may have a friendly discussion with him, he will consider and if it is truth he will post it.


peace

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


BTW, just for the record, CC, Wael is not replying because he is incapable, but he is not well and is in hospital, may Allah Bring him back safe and sound and may Allah Puts this illness in the balance in the balance of his good deeds.