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The Instruction
#41

Quote:Bismillah


So now you are on par with Musa?


"Character is a matter of perception the best in character are of those with Honesty and Love and follow The Guidance of Allah without fail."


I have never heard of character being a matter of perception. Pleas explain that. From my experience, good character transcends language and cultural barriers. To me, this sounds like you are ashamed of the character you have or have had. If you knew muslims, then you would know that a good character is needed to be a... whatever you are calling yourself today. Why not "strengthen" your mission by telling us about it?


Again...


prophet-1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.


This is the definition of the word prophet. this is what you are claiming to be. So...


Narrated Abu Hurairah: Allah's Messenger said, "My similitude in comparison with the other Prophets before me is that of a man who has built a house nicely and beautifully, except for a place of one brick in a corner. The people go round about it and wonder at its beauty, but say: 'Would that this brick be put in its place!' So I am that brick, and I am the last (end) of the Prophets." (Sahih al-Bukhari, vol. 4, hadith no 735).


Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, "The Israelis used to be ruled and guided by Prophets. Whenever a Prophet died, another would take over his place. There will be no Prophet after me, but there will be caliphs who will increase in number." The people asked, "O Allah's Messenger! What do you order us to do?" He said, "Obey the one who will be given the bai'ah (pledge) first. Fulfil their (caliphs) rights, for Allah will Ask them about (any shortcomings) in ruling those whom Allah has put under their guardianship." (Sahih al-Bukhari, vol 4, hadith no 661).


I was interested in having you banned too. But the more you post the greater the cracks in your claims become. So keep talking because you are disproving yourself for us...

You keep saying that I said I am a prophet when you know I did not say that. Clearly I have said I am The Witness of the Utmost High God.


WITNESS THE REAL excerpt:


I Asana Bodhitharta testify I have


witnessed the Utmost High God


and the Utmost High God


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witnessed me witness his


Majesty and showed me


miracles and wonders and


further still, graced me with


power from on high with the


inner formation of the Holy


Spirit and the outer


manifestation of His kindness,


joy and grace without end.


Then God impressed upon me


to write this: God is Most


Gracious and to be an Asana is


to surrender the seat of the


soul! It is to sit at the feet of


God at the footstool of the


temple which is the dwelling


place of God, For all who love


God has said of God, “Come


Lord, please take residence up


in my abode.” And thus they


have become gracious ones of


God.


The Instruction excerpt:


The Most-Compassionate is His name, The Most-Merciful is His Name. In-fact all the Most Beautiful names belong to God. It is He who reveals Himself to whomever He pleases. Be Compassionate and He is the Most-Compassionate with you, be Merciful and God is The Most-Merciful to you. Be loving and God is The Most-Loving. God is Who He will prove to be.


This is the instruction: At the point of testimony of the declaration that God is Real and you are a Witness of the reality of The True God, all your sins past and present are forgiven. Those who Witness the Real and follow the guidance of the instruction shall surely be amongst the winners. The winners are those who acknowledge the Immense Immeasurable Magnificence of ONE REAL GOD. There is no god but God.


You must believe The Truth. if you reject any portion then reject it all. But, if you accept only part of The Truth it is the same as complete rejection. If you do not accept all The Truth, out of sincere fear of losing your current faith, this may be acceptable to the Lord. But, if you accept all of The Truth, out of sincere fear of losing The Truth, you will be rewarded many times over.


This is the instruction: Remember God often. Remember your agreement with Him, that you submit willingly to Him in all things. Remember you were lost and He sent you someone (The Witness) to guide you that you might learn how to have discipline and strength to overcome the world. He sent you The Witness and told you to be Gracious ones of God (Asanas). Remember when you said you would accept the guidance of Bodhitharta, that you too could be made gracious in the sight of God? Embrace then the guidance in peace and submission to The One and Only True God.

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#42

Bismillah


I am glad that you deny being a prophet yet claiming to have the very characteristics that would make a person a prophet. It shows your inconsistancy and complete oblivion to reality.


Your statements are equivical to saying, "There is the sun."


Another then says, "So it is in the sky."


"No," you say, "I never said it was in the sky but there is the sun."


"So it provides light and heat."


"No. Why are saying I said this when all I pointed out was the sun?"


"By pointing out the sun then you are also acknowledging the properties that the sun has. That is how it is identified."


"No. I am just saying that the sun is there. I am not saying anything else."


"Then how do you know it is the sun if you do not even understand the very properties that the sun has?"


You have a message to give, this "Instruction," yet you deny messengership. If you are bringing something from Allah then it must be a message because He does not speak to us. (I am not speaking to you now. I am leaving a message.) If it is not a message then it cannot be from Allah because that is the only way He communicates with humanity.


If you have a message, then you are messenger and we all know there are no messengers after Muhammad saws.


So either way we cannot listen to you.


If you are a messenger, then we know there is no messenger after Muhammad saws.


If you are not a messenger, then there can be no message to give, so there is no point in listening to you.


As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter: Nor will Allah (Deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleans them (of sin): They shall have a grievous penalty.


There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (3:77-78)


If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). (3:85)


If you still want to debate and argue your "point," then know that I cannot beat you. I will not be able to overcome an arguement with someone who has divorced themselves from reason, with a person who ignores the very definitions of words in the language in which we debate.


Sayyidin Ali said, "Give me a learned person to debate and I will always win. Give me an ignorant person and he will beat me every time."

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#43

Quote:Bismillah


I am glad that you deny being a prophet yet claiming to have the very characteristics that would make a person a prophet. It shows your inconsistancy and complete oblivion to reality.


Your statements are equivical to saying, "There is the sun."


Another then says, "So it is in the sky."


"No," you say, "I never said it was in the sky but there is the sun."


"So it provides light and heat."


"No. Why are saying I said this when all I pointed out was the sun?"


"By pointing out the sun then you are also acknowledging the properties that the sun has. That is how it is identified."


"No. I am just saying that the sun is there. I am not saying anything else."


"Then how do you know it is the sun if you do not even understand the very properties that the sun has?"


You have a message to give, this "Instruction," yet you deny messengership. If you are bringing something from Allah then it must be a message because He does not speak to us. (I am not speaking to you now. I am leaving a message.) If it is not a message then it cannot be from Allah because that is the only way He communicates with humanity.


If you have a message, then you are messenger and we all know there are no messengers after Muhammad saws.


So either way we cannot listen to you.


If you are a messenger, then we know there is no messenger after Muhammad saws.


If you are not a messenger, then there can be no message to give, so there is no point in listening to you.


As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter: Nor will Allah (Deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleans them (of sin): They shall have a grievous penalty.


There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (3:77-78)


If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). (3:85)


If you still want to debate and argue your "point," then know that I cannot beat you. I will not be able to overcome an arguement with someone who has divorced themselves from reason, with a person who ignores the very definitions of words in the language in which we debate.


Sayyidin Ali said, "Give me a learned person to debate and I will always win. Give me an ignorant person and he will beat me every time."

I did not say I was not a messenger, I am a messenger. I am a messenger who is not a prophet. The parable of my messengership is like the moon that reflects the light of the sun. The sun has given it's light and yet the moon gives its light but it is not the moon that is the source of the light. The moon is a witness to the sun. See how Allah makes parables that you might easily comprehend the truth.


Witness the Real excerpt:


Q7-7


DAY


There was evening and morning


a single day and the morning was


the latter part of the day and yet


at the end of the day the sun


sets. Yet we know now that we


are revolving around the sun


because it is the sun that is in a


fixed position and it neither rises


nor sets.


Yet, it appears to have done so


from our point of view. Just as


the moon revolves around the


earth, it appears to give light but


it is only reflecting the light of


the sun.


We now know the moon has no


life on it nor life in it although it


reflects the sun it is still the light


of the moon and we also know


that there are suns beyond


number in the universe. Yet, in


our solar system our life is


dependent on that sun which


gives us


life. Yet, it cannot truly be the sun that


gives us life for there is no light or life


on the moon and it is only 186


thousand miles or so from earth. What


gives the sun life is farther away and


the Father you go the closer you get


to what’s farther away. This is relative


for the atmosphere protects us from


the atmosphere. Male and female


GOD created He them in the


likeness and image Of GOD.


For a reflection imitates its origination


of source. A mirror does what is


reflected on to that surface, if it does


not, that is anything but a true mirror.


Now to love God is to love God with


all your heart, your soul and your mind.


Is not this the way God loves?

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#44

Bismillah


Good so you are not a prophet (prophet-1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.)


So you do not speak by divine inspiration or express the will of God. Since you are not this then I am not going to listen to you for that reason.


How can you not see that your claims are contradictory?


If you were truly the "moon" then you would recite Qur'an and that is it. You are bring something new that was not from the Prophet saws so your sun/moon analogy is incorrect.

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#45

Quote:Bismillah


Good so you are not a prophet (prophet-1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.)


So you do not speak by divine inspiration or express the will of God. Since you are not this then I am not going to listen to you for that reason.


How can you not see that your claims are contradictory?


If you were truly the "moon" then you would recite Qur'an and that is it. You are bring something new that was not from the Prophet saws so your sun/moon analogy is incorrect.

You say it is new, I say it is pure. For instance, it was never meant for a woman to be killed from showing an ankle, so why has this been done?


The Quaran says to be modest in dress and not show your private parts to whom they shouldn't be shown. It does not say cover your women from head to toe and if she shows her knee to kill her.


The Quaran says that a man is overseer of woman not a tyrant over her.


The Quaran says, "One day we shall raise a witness" and you say I am a liar.


Do you care what the Quaran says? Then why don't you receive admonition?


The light of all the prophets are reflecting off me and that is a mighty sun.


The Quaran tells you again and again that Mohammad was no more than a messenger and He and the other prophets are not to be singled out as one above another. But what do you say?


The Quaran is clear. Why are you so confused about what the Quaran says, and why are you not following the Quaran? If you follow the Quaran you will have to accept me. I am not trying to take away anything that should not be taken away.

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#46

Bismillah


As Salam alaikum


So you have a degree in tafsir then? Or maybe hadith... fiqh? What shaykh have you studied under? Any?


Or maybe you read the Qur'an in english and decided that you are going to be special by distorting the very thing you claim to follow.


"You say it is new, I say it is pure."


But Islam is already pure.


"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (5:3)


perfect- Completely suited for a particular purpose or situation;Complete; thorough; utter; Excellent and delightful in all respects; <b>Pure </b>; undiluted; unmixed


Looky there, Islam is pure by the Decree of Allah.


"The light of all the prophets are reflecting off me and that is a mighty sun."


I don't know whether to laugh or throw up...

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#47

Quote:u would laugh and throw up at the same time if u saw his pic on myspace....."Too much" sun has been reflecting of his face.......

015.026


And certainly We created man of clay that gives forth sound, of black mud fashioned in shape


015.028


And when your Lord said to the angels: Surely I am going to create a mortal of the essence of black mud fashioned in shape.


ALLAH is The Best of Fashioners




Quote:why on earth would anyone choose such an ugly thing to represent anything....... let alone a "new" religion
p.s WTR im sure u being such a wise "messenger" u will take my insults like a man.......

033.070


O ye who believe! Fear Allah, and (always) say a word directed to the Right

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#48

Bismillah


Interesting...


His first inclination was not to defend his 'Beliefs' but rather his own self.


Not something reflective of the prophets or messengers or whatever you are calling yourself today.

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#49

Quote:Bismillah


Interesting...


His first inclination was not to defend his 'Beliefs' but rather his own self.


Not something reflective of the prophets or messengers or whatever you are calling yourself today.

I was defending the knowledge and pointing out what appeared to be racism which has no place in Islam so I caused(with the permission of Allah) the falsehood to vanish.

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#50

Bismillah


Vanished? And what "knowledge" were you defending?


I agree with you on your other post


"The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.


If any one disputes in this matter with thee, now after (full) knowledge Hath come to thee, say: "Come! let us gather together,- our sons and your sons, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves: Then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie!" (3:60-61).


You still have yet to answer where you studied Islam to have this profound understanding. Guess what? "Allah told me" is not going to cut it. You are making great claims about tafsir, so prove it. There had to have been some proof before the voice in your head came to tell you that you were "the one" to save humanity. What was your path to this revelation? You still have yet to differentiate yourself from psychotics who also claim revelation.


You are a broken record... Figure it out... The current course that you are taking in your dawah is not working. Does the voice in your head have any better ideas?


I am afraid that I have written so much that you will only pick one aspect of this post to reply. Could you try to be not only lucid but complete in your answer?


:rant:

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