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The Instruction
#11

Quote:Bismillah


"If you worship Mohammad(pbuh) you can never come to me, but if you worship ALLAH then you must obey me, because I have been sent."


If you are to be obeyed then you must have something new from Allah, otherwise we have all that we need.


You say you have something new because you have given it a new name. You have different methods of praying and differing views of the Creator. This is new. If this is not from yourself then it is from God thus you must be a messenger. If it is from you, then I do not want to hear about it. If it is from Allah, then you are a liar.

What I am trying to give you is not so much new as it is purified and clarified for you. The Christians reject Mohammad(pbuh) and they say God did not send him, some even call him a prophet of Satan.


They said, " We have the gospel" and like you they say, "We have all that we need." The truth is everyone resists new light because it hurts their eyes.


Some won't listen no matter how hard I try. Here is an excerpt of the The Instruction:


Oh! Asana (Bodhitharta) Remember when you had received the Joy and Kindness of The Most High. you wept at the beauty that was placed in your heart. Remember when you wrote the book (Witness The Real) and was given the choice of going forward with Us or staying behind with Our permission. You decided to go forward and that was best. Remember when We expanded your inheritance with 2 excellent companions. 1 brother(Asana Payzarr) and 1 wife(Asana Alicia) and We made them brother and sister on the path of righteousness. Although they were not the first ones We gave you to guide. They are the first ones that We gave you to teach to guide others. This is the instruction for all Asanas.


This is the instruction: Be grateful! Mankind was made weak and impatient that they may learn to become strong and patient, just as a baby is born helpless and then in time becomes strong. Be grateful! Do not be in despair when things do not go your way and then when things go your way do not become grasping and stingy. Be grateful! Do not envy the wealth of others thinking that they are blessed just because they may have more material wealth than you. In-fact their wealth is a trial for them just as your poverty is a trial for you and again do not be arrogant of your own wealth just because others have less than you. In-fact your wealth is a trial for you just as their poverty is a trial for them.


Whatever your status, let your soul be not found in an ungrateful state. Let your very being be showered with divine grace. The Hypocrites are ungrateful, The Atheist are ungrateful. These are the blasphemous they blaspheme the Holy Spirit of God. Every sin is one that may be forgiven but the state of Hypocrisy and Atheism is the state of the unforgiven. Do not die in these states but let these states of being die within you. Belief in God is Salvation.

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#12

Bismillah


What are the indications from Islam that Allah needed to send this clarification?


"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (5:3)


Allah lied in the Qur'an?!?

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#13

Bismillah


Witness, in one of your long posts, you addressed Radiyah saying if you believe in Allah and worship Allah, come to me.


What do you have to give?? do you have anything extra? may be I m re phrasing what Dan just posted. But just to confirm that I dont think your commodity will have any customers here.


Coming to you for knowledge, we have the Quran and hadeeth, coming to you for intermediary for forgiving, we dont need an intermediate between us and Allah, coming to your for what exactly? this is the main point.


May be you can discuss in a more objective manner, so that you might understand the truth.

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#14

Quote:Bismillah


What are the indications from Islam that Allah needed to send this clarification?


"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (5:3)


Allah lied in the Qur'an?!?

"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." (5:3)


Here Allah is saying I have perfected <b>your religion for you</b> and so he did. That does not mean that it would not be perfected and clarified any further. Allah had previously perfected the religion of all who came before Mohammad(pbuh) if it were not so could it be possible that Allah had a faulty religion? God forbid!!! Allah reveals perfectly and it is man who goes astray from that perfection. <b>Today Allah is perfecting your religion for you</b> and has chosen Asanas as your way of life.

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#15

Bismillah




Quote:I am not a prophet! I am a witness.
Show me in the Quaran where it says there will be no more witnesses arising.


Show me in the Quaran where it says no one else is coming.


The fact is, you will never show me these things because they are not in the Quaran.

Where did u get your Quran studies?


How did Allah send u and by which way there is connection between u and Him?


and in which language was this witnessing of yours sent?


And sister M, on another forum 3 years ago there was one man who claimed to be prophet Jonah who came back to life.


He was mocked by members and I personally asked for his banning. He was banned and the whole thread was deleted. Now I personally ask for banning this person because he is claiming to be a messenger of some sort :angry2:. Do we need such persons around. Some will tell me give him chance maybe he is lost, he is not lost, he knows what he wants, he wants us to change our beleif, just like khaleefa rashad. Did we allow him here or his site. He will not end this, they will say we are dictators who do not accept opinions of others. But this is not an opinion of another, it is a claim he is sent from Allah(Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala), he is claiming that Islam will not be perfected unless by him, then he is saying that Prophet Muhammad did not perfect relegion, then he is claiming he is better than Prophet Muhammad(Peace be Upon Him), he is using The Holy Quran to prove his point forgetting that The Holy Quran was revealed by arabic language and not english, and these verses he take from Quran as proof for himself he does not know the true meaning of them and the connection of it with the before and after Ayahs and the whole integration of the Surrah and The Holy Quran. are we going to allow this, I will leave this for Admin to decide.


w


<b>I will not in any way follow u, I will not in any way become lost after I found the true light, I was born muslim, i will stay muslim, I will not beleive the words u r writing here, your existance proofs that Prophet Muhammad is The seal of Prophets and Messengers, he warned us from people like u, You are harming non but yourself, if u do not repent then u r not needed here, many before u tried changing our faith on this board and non succeeded, my advice to u do not try hard here becuase u will not find anything except failure.
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Sister M if this continues ban is the solution.


Salam

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#16

Bismillah:




Quote:Sister M if this continues ban is the solution.


Salam

<b>We should not wait </b> till he continue this... <b>BAN NOW is the solution.</b>



Salam


Wael.

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#17

Bismillah


Thanku Wa'el, totally agree :)


Salam

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#18

Quote:Bismillah


Where did u get your Quran studies?


How did Allah send u and by which way there is connection between u and Him?


and in which language was this witnessing of yours sent?


And sister M, on another forum 3 years ago there was one man who claimed to be prophet Jonah who came back to life.


He was mocked by members and I personally asked for his banning. He was banned and the whole thread was deleted. Now I personally ask for banning this person because he is claiming to be a messenger of some sort :angry2:. Do we need such persons around. Some will tell me give him chance maybe he is lost, he is not lost, he knows what he wants, he wants us to change our beleif, just like khaleefa rashad. Did we allow him here or his site. He will not end this, they will say we are dictators who do not accept opinions of others. But this is not an opinion of another, it is a claim he is sent from Allah(Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala), he is claiming that Islam will not be perfected unless by him, then he is saying that Prophet Muhammad did not perfect relegion, then he is claiming he is better than Prophet Muhammad(Peace be Upon Him), he is using The Holy Quran to prove his point forgetting that The Holy Quran was revealed by arabic language and not english, and these verses he take from Quran as proof for himself he does not know the true meaning of them and the connection of it with the before and after Ayahs and the whole integration of the Surrah and The Holy Quran. are we going to allow this, I will leave this for Admin to decide.


w


<b>I will not in any way follow u, I will not in any way become lost after I found the true light, I was born muslim, i will stay muslim, I will not beleive the words u r writing here, your existance proofs that Prophet Muhammad is The seal of Prophets and Messengers, he warned us from people like u, You are harming non but yourself, if u do not repent then u r not needed here, many before u tried changing our faith on this board and non succeeded, my advice to u do not try hard here becuase u will not find anything except failure.
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Sister M if this continues ban is the solution.


Salam

Show me any post in which I said that I am better than anyone. I am in-fact worthless but Allah is priceless and I am His slave and the slave of Allah is priceless but without Allah I am indeed worthless. I received My the divine revelation in my own tongue which is English just as Mohammad received the Quaran in Arabic and Moses received the divine revelation in Hebrew. The Quaran came down to Mohammad in Arabic but it is a guidance to all of mankind. I have stated that Mohammad is the seal of the prophets and that I am not a prophet. What warning did you receive about me?


I am not trying to change your faith, or did I say reject your faith? What words will you not believe that I am writing here? will you reject without reason?


And why would you want to ban me? What is greater, to listen to the guidance of Allah and do what he commands or tell a lie and say I did not get a revelation from Allah to please you.


Oh, radiyah


Surely, I am not lying to you and what would be the purpose of me lying to you. Go in prayer and ask Allah to reveal to you if I am a liar? You will not find that I am a liar because I am not.


Is the Islam message that if I embrace you then you will push me away?

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#19

Bismillah:




Quote:I have stated that Mohammad is the seal of the prophets<b> and that I am not a prophet.</b>
And why would you want to ban me? What is greater, to listen to the guidance of Allah and do what he commands or <b>tell a lie and say I did not get a revelation from Allah to please you.</b>

If you are <b>not a Prophet</b>, then what kind of <b>“new revelation”</b> are you talking about? How will God send a revelation to someone who is <b>not a Prophet?</b> and if Prophet Muhammad pbuh was indeed the <b>seal of all Prophets</b>, then <b>why should we listen to what you have brought in the first place? </b> What you have brought is nothing but <b>LIE</b>. and you know what? The above contradiction of your own statements proves that you are <b>a lair</b>. <b>or mad person</b>.... <b>And I still insist on banning you.
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Salam


Wael.

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#20

Quote:Bismillah:


If you are <b>not a Prophet</b>, then what kind of <b>“new revelation”</b> are you talking about? How will God send a revelation to someone who is <b>not a Prophet?</b> and if Prophet Muhammad pbuh was indeed the <b>seal of all Prophets</b>, then <b>why should we listen to what you have brought in the first place? </b> What you have brought is nothing but <b>LIE</b>. and you know what? The above contradiction of your own statements proves that you are <b>a lair</b>. <b>or mad person</b>.... <b>And I still insist on banning you.
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Salam


Wael.

BismAllah ..



Salaam Alaikum


This member 'witness the real' apparently belongs to the Qadiani sect or some similar cult. They are the only ones who do not consider Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to be the the Seal of the Prophets (nauzbillah). For this reason they have been ex-communicated from the Muslim community in South Asia. It is typical of Qadianis to try to minimize the importance of the Prophet (pbuh) so that they can draw maximum attention of their false and phoney apostles. 'Witness the real' is discreetly trying to preach this idea. Allah (The Most High) is sufficient to deal with such miscreants.

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