Pope Benedict on Islam

[Curious Christian]

By the way...now the Turks are comparing the Pope to Hitler for what he said...


Link


Hitler was responsible for the death of millions including genocide of the Jewish people.


Pope quotes somebody about how Islam has been spread by the sword.


Go figure.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


salam


This may sound strange, but I can fully understand how the popse would think this way and publicly decalare his position.


Otherwise, there are many monks and priest who are guided to Islam but they dont declare it publicly.


I mean the Pope is the sign of Christianity, enjoying all the glory, golden ornamented robe and all that. how can I expect him to say that islam, if he embraces it would loose all this rank associated glory, is correct or that the Messenger was the Messenger of mercy.


Dan, the same thing i see around with Coptic Egyptians, they like promise things to Saint Terese, or Saint Marie George, if they fulfilled their needs. They go there and light candles.

[NaSra]

Bismilah


Asalamalaikum


Almost laughable hypocrisy, how does he explain the conduct of the crusades?


The spanish inquisition? the conquistadors etc of the centuries?


I believe this pope has more urgent works to do in his own backyard such as child molestation,


rape, fraud, pedophilea involving his catholic clergies in churches around the world.


Where was he when the Lebanese christians were being killed by the Israelies?


Allah (swt) has informed us of their sickness of the heart when He (swt) warns, "Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance. Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah." (al-Baqarah: 120)


We already know who u are, get to know us :excl:


<i>Isnt it odd that the pope quoted a quote from the 14th century?</i>


now he's claiming that he only quoted somethingn(i was reading that on some news)....sorry but If you Act, Talk, and Walk like a duck you are a duck.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

Bismilah


Asalamalaikum


Almost laughable hypocrisy, how does he explain the conduct of the crusades?


The spanish inquisition? the conquistadors etc of the centuries?


I believe this pope has more urgent works to do in his own backyard such as child molestation,


rape, fraud, pedophilea involving his catholic clergies in churches around the world.


Where was he when the Lebanese christians were being killed by the Israelies?


Allah (swt) has informed us of their sickness of the heart when He (swt) warns, "Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of Allah,-that is the (only) Guidance. Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah." (al-Baqarah: 120)


We already know who u are, get to know us :excl:


<i>Isnt it odd that the pope quoted a quote from the 14th century?</i>


now he's claiming that he only quoted somethingn(i was reading that on some news)....sorry but If you Act, Talk, and Walk like a duck you are a duck.

Excellent remarks sister. May Allah reward you.


Salam


Wael

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

It's true that not all people think the same thing about Mohammed.

Yes that includes John Paul II who had great respect for Muhammad pbuh and his faith.


Salam


Wael

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

Love thy enemy, feed the poor, meekness is valued... sounds very similar to many eastern religions that are much older than Christianity.

Really? Please enlighten me.

<b>EXAMPLES:</b>



"Hatreds never cease through hatred in this world; <b>through love alone they cease</b>. This is an eternal law"


<b>Buddhism. Dhammapada 3-5</b>


"What kind of love is this that to another can shift? Says Nanak, <b>True lovers are those who are forever absorbed in the Beloved. Whoever discriminates between treatment held good or bad, Is not a true lover</b>--he rather is caught in calculations".


<b>Sikhism. Adi Granth, Asa-ki-Var, M.2, p. 474</b>


"The sage has no fixed [personal] ideas. He regards the people's ideas as his own.


I treat those who are good with goodness, And I also treat those who are not good with goodness.


Thus goodness is attained.


I am honest with those who are honest, And I am also honest with those who are dishonest.


Thus honesty is attained".


<b>Taoism. Tao Te Ching 49</b>


"<b>Do good to him who has done you an injury</b>".


<b>10.Taoism. Tao Te Ching 63</b>


"<b>Conquer anger by love. Conquer evil by good. Conquer the stingy by giving. Conquer the liar by truth</b>".


<b>Buddhism. Dhammapada 223</b>


"Man should subvert anger by forgiveness, subdue pride by modesty, overcome hypocrisy with simplicity, and greed by contentment".


<b>Jainism. Samanasuttam 136</b>


"May <b>generosity triumph over niggardliness</b>,


May <b>love triumph over contempt</b>,


May <b>the true-spoken word triumph over the false-spoken word</b>,


May <b>truth triumph over falsehood</b>".


<b>Zoroastrianism. Yasna 60.5</b>


"<b>A superior being does not render evil for evil</b>; this is a maxim one should observe; the ornament of virtuous persons is their conduct. <b>One should never harm the wicked or the good or even criminals meriting death.</b> <b>A noble soul will ever exercise compassion even towards those who enjoy injuring others or those of cruel deeds when they are actually committing them--for who is without fault</b>?"


<b>Hinduism. Ramayana, Yuddha Kanda 115</b>


Salam


Wael.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


http://islamsms.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=3496

[arclight]

I'm surprised that no muslims, not just on here but any other media, have noted a key part of what he said.


"Prophet Mohammed"

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

In the first reaction from a top Christian leader, Coptic Pope Shenouda III, the head of Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church, said in remarks published on Saturday that<b> "any remarks which offend Islam and Muslims are against the teachings of Christ".</b>

source: http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/artic...ang=E&id=135873

CAIRO — The deputy patriarch of Egypt's Catholics on Saturday, September 16, attributed Pope Benedict XVI's anti-Islam jibe to his poor knowledge of Islam and Muslims, warning that the "surprising" remarks could play into the hands of extremists.
<b>"Pope Benedict has not dealt enough with Muslims all through his life and does not have enough knowledge about Islam and Muslims," Father Youhana Qalta</b>, told IslamOnline.net Saturday, September 16.

"<b>The pontiff's words have surprised the Catholics in Egypt and the whole East, as a point of fact," Qalta said</b>.

Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, the head of the International Union for Muslim Scholars (IUMS), said on Friday the pope's words reflected ignorance of the basic tenets of Islam.
Din Syamsuddin, chairman of Muhammadiyah, the second largest Islamic organization in Indonesia, agreed.


<b>"The Pope's statements reflect his lack of wisdom. It is obvious from the statements that the Pope doesn't have a correct understanding of Islam," </b> Syamsuddin told Reuters.

Source: http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/...6/01.shtml

VATICAN CITY – Pope Benedict told Muslims on Saturday, September 16, <b>he was sorry </b> they had found his speech on Islam offensive, expressing <b>his respect for their faith </b> and hoping they would understand the <b>"true sense" of his words</b>.

Is he suffering of Schizophrenia? or is this what we call it hypocrisy?


Salam


Wael

[umm Zachariah]

Bismillah


Asslamu alaikum


Quoting brother Wael

Is he suffering of Schizophrenia? or is this what we call it hypocrisy?

A rough guess would be the last one <_<