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Is it allowed to take photos?
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08-14-2006, 11:08 AM
Assalamualaikum Am new here...its just my second post. I would like to know what you think coz some places i've read that it is allowed others say its haraam to take photos. I have a 17-months baby and i occasionally take her photo from my mobile and put on my pc as souvenir. Is it allowed?
08-14-2006, 11:32 AM
Bismillah as salam alykom sister I would like to welcome you to our board hoping that Insh aAllah both u and us share much benefit and knowledge. As for the photo issue. I think I read a lot about it. Let me get back to it or may be a brother or sister will give a reply before me. Again welcome to the board.
08-15-2006, 10:26 PM
Wa'Alaikum Assalaam WR WB, Welcome to the board inshallah. I can remember reading a while back a hadith in which it mentions "...whatever the hand creates". This means drawing or portraits done by the hand are not allowed. As for taking pictures it is allowed as the hand is not being used to draw but only to cpature an image by pressing a button on the camera. But I will try to get the ahadith and explanation of it soon. Wassalaam.
08-21-2006, 02:12 PM
Narrated Aisha: (mother of the faithful believers) I bought a cushion with pictures on it. When Allah's Apostle saw it, he kept standing at the door and did not enter the house. I noticed the sign of disgust on his face, so I said, "O Allah's Apostle! I repent to Allah and H is Apostle . (Please let me know) what sin I have done." Allah's Apostle said, "What about this cushion?" I replied, "I bought it for you to sit and recline on." Allah's Apostle said, "The painters (i.e. owners) of these pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection. It will be said to them, 'Put life in what you have created (i.e. painted).' " The Prophet added, "The angels do not enter a house where there are pictures." Bukhari (Book #34, Hadith #318)
08-25-2006, 09:35 AM
Quote:Narrated Aisha: (mother of the faithful believers) Salam These pictures were sewn onto the cushion, and so the context doesnt really relate to the actual question, which asks about Photography. Photography is capturing light, we capture what we see phsyically just we do with our eyes, but we capture that mentally. If the law on this is relating to only what the hand <b>creates</b> (Photography doesnt create, it captures. The only creation involved is what we use to hold onto these images, e.g. the paper), then e.g. painting and drawing images that imply phsyical life (such as an animal or human being) are deemed to be haram. Right? :wacko: And if this is so, can anyone give further guidelines as how we define 'living' or 'life' in terms of images. I can understand it from that point of view, but if the underline reason is that we dont immitate Allah, by attempting to have some creations of our own e.g. on a piece of paper, then why we is it allowed to draw images of e.g. flowers, mountains, basically anything that is created by Allah - shouldnt all drawing be haram then? :huh:
08-25-2006, 10:21 PM
Bismillah Assalaam Alaikum Drawing is to trace/draw (rasama) the picture of something, and of drawing is the making of statues (tamathil) and it includes carving/sculpting (naht). The drawing itself or the carving/sculpture is the picture/image (sura) and (suwar) is its plural. It is also called (tasaweer) in the language and it includes sculpting, and it is said linguistically that drawing (tasaweer) is sculpting (tamathil). The Shar'a forbade the drawing of anything with a soul (ruh) in it among humans, animals and birds whether it is drawn upon paper, skin, clothes, vessels/receptacles (awani), jewellery, cash etc so all of this is forbidden since the mere drawing of something in which there is a soul is forbidden whatever the thing being drawn. Drawing that which has not soul in it is permitted without any sin therein. The Shar'a allowed the drawing of trees, mountains, flowers etc which do not have a soul. As for forbidding that which has a soul, this is established via the Shariah texts. Al-Bukhari extracted from the hadith of ibn Abbas who said: <b>"When the Prophet (SAW) saw the drawings in the House (Ka'aba), he did not enter until he commanded their effacement (maha)</b>. In the hadith of Muslim: "From Aisha who said: <b>"Rasool (SAW) came from a voyage and I had covered my door with a curtain with a (durnuka) with horses in it with wings. He commanded me and I removed it"</b>. The (durnuka) is a type of clothing. Al-Bukhari extraced from the hadith of ibn Abbas: Rasool (SAW) said: "<b>Whoever draws a drawing, Allah will punish him for it on the Day of Judgment until he breathes a soul/life (ruh) into it whereas he cannot so breathe.</b>" These ahadith in their generality request the leaving of drawing decisively, and this is the evidence that drawing is forbidden. The forbidding is only upon the drawing which has a soul in it, as for anything with no soul it is permitted. The allowance of drawing that which has no soul of trees etc, this came explicitly in the ahadith. In the hadith of Abu Hurayra: "<b>He commanded to lop off the head of the statue so that it became like the form of a tree</b>" which means there is no wrong with the statue of a tree. And in the hadith of ibn Abbas: "<b>If you must do so, then make a tree and that which has no soul (nafs)"</b>. The drawing which Allah SWT forbade is only the tracing/drawing (rasm) or engraving etc which a human performs directly by himself. As for taking picture via the way of photographic equipment, it is not included nor is it of the forbidden drawing but rather it is allowed. This is because its reality is that it is not drawing, but is only transporting (nuql) the shadow (dhill) from the reality to the film nor is it drawing a person by the drawer. So it does not enter into the prohibition which came in the hadith. The ahadith say: <b>"Those who make these drawings", Verily I drew these drawings", "Every drawer", "The drawers"</b>. The one who takes the picture of the person or animal with photographic equipment does not make these pictures nor does he perform this drawing nor is he a drawer. Someone can say if drawing anything with a soul is forbidden for the reason of imitating the creation of Allah (SWT) then this reason exists in trees, mountains and flowers etc. since they are also created by Allah (SWT) so, at that point drawing them is forbidden due to the existance of the reason in their drawing. The response to this is that the ahadith which came forbidding drawing are not reasoned nor did there come the reasoning of drawing by any reason, hence no reason is sought. As for what ibn Umar narrated of the statement of Rasool (SAW) "<b>It will be said to them: 'Give life to that which you created</b>" and what came in the hadith of Aisha about drawing: "<b>The people most severely punished on Day of Judgement are those who imitate the creation of Allah"</b>, all this did not come in the form of reasoning. No reason is understood from the words and sentences in these ahadith. All that is the matter is that the Messenger likens (yushabbihu) drawing with creation and the drawers with the Creator. The resemblence (tashbeeh) does not mean reasoning nor does it become a reason since resemblence of something with something does not make that which is likened to the reason for that which resembles; rather it is possible to be a description for it, and the description of the thing is not a reason for it. The drawing whose forbidding came in the ahadith is the one which imitates the creation of Allah (SWT) and the one in which the drawer resembles the creator in relation to how he creates a thing. So he creates a picture either by tracing/drawing it from his minds or drawing it from its origin in front of him; in both these cases he created the pitcure because he is the one in whom there is creativity (ibda'). As for the photographic picture, it is not of this type since it is not creating the picture nor does creativity exist therein; it is merely printing the shadow of something existing upon film. This is in relation to drawing as it is. However, In the hadith of Abu Talha in Muslim with the words: "<b>I heard Rasool (SAW) saying: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or picture"</b> and in the narration via a way narrated by Muslim that he said: <b>"...except (raqm) upon a garment (thawb)"</b>. This includes the exclusion of the embroidered (marquma) picture in the garment and its understanding is that the angels enter the house in which there is a carving (timthal) embroided upon a garment. If this hadith is joined to the other prohibiting ahadith, it is a connotation that the request to leave is not decisive so possessing the picture in a place where it is treated with respect is disliked not forbidden. As for possessing (iqtina) the picture which is drawn in a place of worship like a masjid, musalla and their like, this is definitely forbidden due to what came in the hadith of ibn Abbas that Rasool (SAW) refused to enter the Ka'aba until the pictures were effaced. This is a decisive request to leave so it becomes an evidence of forbidding. ALLAH KNOWS BEST!
08-26-2006, 09:02 AM
Salam, I thought more about this. You said, in relation to drawing, its haram to draw (create) an image that is deemed to have a soul. How do you define what a soul in this respect... Drawing a self portrait obviously falls into that category, because you know you have a soul. And so does drawing someone that you know exists e.g. tracing a photograph, or sketching a person infront of you - that is haram, because you are immitating creation as they have a soul. So what about these smileys? ^_^ :wacko: :wub: They imply life, imply emotional characteristics and a human! Yet they are clearly not human, or realistic..just imaginative. What about a simple cartoon drawn on a piece of paper, a made up fictional character, a fictional appearance that you used your imagination to create? Can that be deemed immitating Allah? Or is it simply just use of imagination? E.g. Are cartoons, that are based on the artists imagination rather than direct tracing/re-creating, haram?
08-30-2006, 01:55 PM
Salam, I was asking if cartoons based on fictional characters were haram |
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