Familial Relations

[Dan]

Bismillah


In the Bible, I know of passages that tell children to obey their parents. Are their any passages that warn people to not sever kinship ties regardless of who they are, eg parent, sibling, ect?

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


In the Bible, I know of passages that tell children to obey their parents. Are their any passages that warn people to not sever kinship ties regardless of who they are, eg parent, sibling, ect?

There are passages where Paul instructs believers to sever ties with a brother (another Christian) if that brother is in sin and unrepetent. However, if that brother repents then you should accept him back thankfully.


There is also the parable of the Prodigal Son...Jesus address this very issue.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

There are passages where Paul instructs believers to sever ties with a brother (another Christian) if that brother is in sin and unrepetent. However, if that brother repents then you should accept him back thankfully.


There is also the parable of the Prodigal Son...Jesus address this very issue.

I think brother Dan was asking for passages or quotation from the Bible regarding this issue. Do you know of any reference from the Bible concerning this matter?


Salam


Wael.

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


I think brother Dan was asking for passages or quotation from the Bible regarding this issue. Do you know of any reference from the Bible concerning this matter?


Salam


Wael.

<b>Luke 15</b>


11 Then He said: “A certain man had two sons. 12 And the younger of them said to his father, ‘Father, give me the portion of goods that falls to me.’ So he divided to them his livelihood. 13 And not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, journeyed to a far country, and there wasted his possessions with prodigal living. 14 But when he had spent all, there arose a severe famine in that land, and he began to be in want. 15 Then he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country, and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 16 And he would gladly have filled his stomach with the pods that the swine ate, and no one gave him anything.


17 “But when he came to himself, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and before you, 19 and I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants.”’


20 “And he arose and came to his father. But when he was still a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, and ran and fell on his neck and kissed him. 21 And the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and in your sight, and am no longer worthy to be called your son.’


22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. 23 And bring the fatted calf here and kill it, and let us eat and be merry; 24 for this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ And they began to be merry.


25 “Now his older son was in the field. And as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing. 26 So he called one of the servants and asked what these things meant. 27 And he said to him, ‘Your brother has come, and because he has received him safe and sound, your father has killed the fatted calf.’


28 “But he was angry and would not go in. Therefore his father came out and pleaded with him. 29 So he answered and said to his father, ‘Lo, these many years I have been serving you; I never transgressed your commandment at any time; and yet you never gave me a young goat, that I might make merry with my friends. 30 But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’


31 “And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that I have is yours. 32 It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found


Galatians 6



1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For each one shall bear his own load.


<b>James 5 19:20</b>


"My brethren, if any one among you wanders from the truth and some one brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins"


Matt 18



15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’<strong> 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. </strong>

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18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. </strong>

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19 “Again I say[c] to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”</strong>

[Dan]

Bismillah


it seems "15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you" refers to brother in religion more than blood, right?


to be more specific, is there a passage that tells parents not to abadon their children?


Thanks for your help!

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


it seems "15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you" refers to brother in religion more than blood, right?


to be more specific, is there a passage that tells parents not to abadon their children?


Thanks for your help!

I am not sure of any passage that tells parents not to abandon their children. Their are OT laws that say parents should stone wayward sons etc...but those had their purpose in God's plan and since Christ fulfilled the law aren't necessary.

[Dan]

Bismillah


Do you know which ones those are?

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


Do you know which ones those are?

I don't have time to look right now. Deuteronomy I think.

[radiyah]

but those had their purpose in God's plan and since Christ fulfilled the law aren't necessary.

Bismillah


What does this mean????


Peace

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


What does this mean????


Peace

The key to understanding this issue is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to make the Israelites know how to obey and please God (the Ten Commandments for example), some of them were to show them how to worship God (the sacrificial system), some of them were to simply make the Israelites different from other nations (the food and clothing rules). None of the Old Testament law applies to us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).


<b>Romans 10:4</b>


4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.


<b>Galatians 3:23-25;</b>


23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.


<b>Ephesians 2:15</b>


15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,


In place of the Old Testament law, we are under the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) which is to, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37-40). If we do these two things, we will be fulfilling all that Christ wants for us to do, “This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome” (1 John 5:3).