Dialogue.

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Bismillah:


A question was asked to Brother Yusuf Estes (former Christian preacher who embraced Islam few years ago) by "born Again Christian” during online dialogue between both of them.... I just would like to share his answer.


<b>Q;</b>


But if you are saying you knew the <b>JESUS mentioned in the bible </b> and <b>then also you accepted Islam </b> . . .?


<b>A;</b>


The more that I searched for the "Jesus" of the Bible <b>in sincerity and honesty</b>, <b>the more that Allah led me to know the true "Jesus" and what his message really was</b>. He was telling the people <b>not to change the Word of God</b> and <b>not to worship anyone alongside of God</b>. He was calling himself by the title of the prophets mentioned in the Old Testament; <b>"Son of Man." </b> This is clear when you compare the statements in Ezekiel.


<b>Jesus was doing his miracles by the permission of Allah</b>, the Almighty. <b>He did nothing on his own</b>, but rather by <b>the One who sent him </b> in the first place. This is the understanding in Islam and the teachings in what remains of the Holy Bible.


To read the full dialogue between brother Yusuf and the questioner, please click here


Islam Tomorrow


Salam


Wael

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


A question was asked to Brother Yusuf Estes (former Christian preacher who embraced Islam few years ago) by "born Again Christian” during online dialogue between both of them.... I just would like to share his answer.


<b>Q;</b>


But if you are saying you knew the <b>JESUS mentioned in the bible </b> and <b>then also you accepted Islam </b> . . .?


<b>A;</b>


The more that I searched for the "Jesus" of the Bible <b>in sincerity and honesty</b>, <b>the more that Allah led me to know the true "Jesus" and what his message really was</b>. He was telling the people <b>not to change the Word of God</b> and <b>not to worship anyone alongside of God</b>. He was calling himself by the title of the prophets mentioned in the Old Testament; <b>"Son of Man." </b> This is clear when you compare the statements in Ezekiel.


<b>Jesus was doing his miracles by the permission of Allah</b>, the Almighty. <b>He did nothing on his own</b>, but rather by <b>the One who sent him </b> in the first place. This is the understanding in Islam and the teachings in what remains of the Holy Bible.


To read the full dialogue between brother Yusuf and the questioner, please click here


Islam Tomorrow


Salam


Wael

Sadly that position is contradictory to what is revealed about Christ in the Holy Bible.

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Bismillah:

Sadly that position is contradictory to what is revealed about Christ in the Holy Bible.

Sometimes words really mean nothing CC.


Did Jesus ever ask people to worship another one beside the One true God? What the Bible revealed about Jesus in the Bible is really clear but you have understood the exact opposite or you are just stuck to what you have been told.


Salam


Wael.

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


Sometimes words really mean nothing CC.


Did Jesus ever ask people to worship another one beside the One true God? What the Bible revealed about Jesus in the Bible is really clear but you have understood the exact opposite or you are just stuck to what you have been told.


Salam


Wael.

I posted numerous verses which clearly indicate Jesus' divinity not to mention that the bible from Gen. 3:15 - the last verse in Revelation is all about Chirst.


Your only answer to those verses and that truth is "Jesus never said he was God."


I think that we are going to have to agree to disagree for the time being.

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Bismillah:

I posted numerous verses which clearly indicate Jesus' divinity not to mention that the bible from Gen. 3:15 - the last verse in Revelation is all about Chirst.


Your only answer to those verses and that truth is "Jesus never said he was God."


I think that we are going to have to agree to disagree for the time being.

You have posted verses you are right, but none of them prove his divinity CC. NONE and I have refuted them all Alhamdulelah. You just cant accept the fact that he himself ask us to worship the father. <b>are you telling me that Jesus is the father? yes or no?</b>


Salam


Wael.

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


You have posted verses you are right, but none of them prove his divinity CC. NONE and I have refuted them all Alhamdulelah. You just cant accept the fact that he himself ask us to worship the father. <b>are you telling me that Jesus is the father? yes or no?</b>


Salam


Wael.

Jesus did ask us to worship the father. In worshiping the Father we worship Him.


John 8


<b>48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?” </b>


49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50 And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51 Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.”


52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?”


54 Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your[m] God. 55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”


57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”


58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”



59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple,[n] going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

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Bismillah:

Jesus did ask us to worship the father. In worshiping the Father we worship Him.

No no., where does he say <b>'in worshipping the father it is same as worshipping me'</b>


Don’t put words in Jesus' mouth please.

John 8
<b>48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?” </b>


49 Jesus answered, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50 And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51 Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.”


52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?”


54 Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your[m] God. 55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”


57 Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”


58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”



59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple,[n] going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Again you are running in the same circle.. i did refute this verse as well i.e "I AM".. Anyway, am advised by my prophet pbuh not to argue too much. So am giving up.


Slama


Wael.