Why Islam?

[saima]

<b>Why Islam?</b>


Many people have the misconception that Islam came into existence, and the founder of the religion of Islam was Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), 1400 years ago. In fact Islam is there in existence since time immemorial - since man set foot on the earth. And the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Fatir, Chapter 35, Verse No.24…(Arabic)…‘There is not a nation or a tribe to whom We have not sent a warner’. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Rad, Chapter No.13, Verse No.7…(Arabic)…. ‘And to every nation have We sent a guide’. By name only 25 are mentioned in the Holy Qur’an - But our Prophet Muhammed (Salallahu Alaihi Wasallam) - he said that there were more than 124 thousand messengers sent on the face of the earth. By name we know only 25, mentioned in the Holy Qur’an - Adam, Moses, Jesus, Solomon, Muhammed, (Peace be upon them all) - But there were more than one hundred and twenty four thousand messengers sent. Similarly by name we know only four Revelations of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, of Almighty God - the Torah, the Zabur, the Ingel and the Furqaan. The Torah is the ‘Wahee’, ‘the Revelation’ which was given to Moses (Peace be upon him), Zabur is the ‘Wahee’, ‘the Revelation’ which was given to David (peace be upon him), Ingel is the ‘Wahee’ ‘the Revelation’ which was given to Jesus (Peace be upon him), and Furqaan, that’s ‘the Holy Qur’an’ is the last and final revelation which was given to the last and final messenger, Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him). But if you analyze that all the other Scriptures, - whether are they the word of God or not - Bible, can I say it’s the word of God or not? We believe in the Ingel, the ‘Wahee’ which was given to Isa Alaysalam - This Bible that the Christians have today, is not the ‘Wahee’ which we believe in. This Bible does contain the word of God - It also contains the word of Prophet, and also words of historians, as well as pornography. It is totally not the word of God - No wonder the Christian scholars, they are keeping on revising the Bible. We believe in the original ‘Wahee’ given to Isa Alaysalam - But the present Bible is not the correct ‘Wahee’- It may contain part of the ‘Wahee’. How to check up, which part is true? - We have to check it with the ‘Furqaan’ - And the Furqaan is the Holy Qur’an. Simlilarly, if you analyze all the messengers that were sent before Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) - all the revelations that came before Holy Qur’an… all of these revelations and these messengers were only sent for their people and their message was supposed to be followed only for a particular limited time period. As the Holy Qur’an Says in Surah Al-Imran, Chapter No.3, V.49, that… ‘Isa Alysalaam – He was sent only for the Bani Israel’. The message is repeated in Surah Saff, Chapter No.61, Verse No.6… ‘that Isa Alysalam, the son of Mary was sent only for the Bani Israel… the children of Israel’. The same message is given in Bible in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.10, Verse No.5 to 6, that Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) tells his disciples that ‘go ye not into the way of the Gentiles’ Who are the Gentiles? The Non-Jews, the Hindus, the Muslims. ‘Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, but rather go to lost sheep of the house of Israel’ - that means he was only sent for the house of Israel. Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) said - It’s mentioned in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.15 Verse No.24 that ‘I have not been sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’. So all the messengers, and all the revelations - by name only four revelations are given in the Holy Qur’an.


But there were several revelations of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, like ‘Sugfe Ibrahim’ and various other Revelations. But all the revelations that came before the Holy Qur’an, and all the messengers that came before Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) - they were only sent for their people and for a particular time period. But our beloved Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him), the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Anbiya, Chapter 21, Verse No.107, it says… (Arabic)…. ‘That We have sent thee, not but as a mercy to the whole of humankind, as a mercy to all the worlds, as a mercy to all the creatures’. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Saba, Chapter 34, Verse No.28 that …(Arabic)… That ‘We have sent thee not but as a universal messenger, giving glad tidings and warning them against sin - But most of the human kind yet do not know’. Similarly all the Religious scriptures that were sent by Allah Subhana Wa Taala, that came before the Qur’an, were only meant for that people, and for a particular time period. But the Holy Qur’an - it says in Surah Ibrahim, Chapter 14, Verse 52, as well as Surah Baqarah, Chapter 2 Verse 185, and Surah Al-Zumur, Chapter 39, Verse No.41, that it was sent for the whole of humanity


are these Scriptures - the Vedas, the Bible, the Zend Avesta, the Dasatir, the Upanishads - are they the word of Almighty God? What I can say – that we believe in ‘Injil’ as the word of God - But the present Bible is not the word of God. Regarding Veda, Upanishad, Geeta, Zend Avesta, Dasatir, I can say - may be they were the word of God - May be. I cannot say for sure, since the Qur’an does not say that Vedas is the word of God - I cannot say for sure. I can only say ‘may be’ they were word of God. But even if they were the word of God, all the Scriptures besides the Holy Qur’an, have been changed by human beings - they have been corrupted. As a famous critic of Islam, William Myore - He said 2 centuries before, that ‘the only Religious Scripture which has maintained its purity, is the Holy Qur’an for 12 centuries. <b>William Myore, who is a very strong critic of Islam - he had - to agree that this Qur’an has maintained its original purity for 12 centuries - He said this 200 years before.[/
b] So regarding the messengers, whether Ram…whether Ram whether Lakshman, all these, were they messengers of God or not? Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) - he was - Because the Qur’an says. But the name of Ram and Buddha and Zorastras is not mentioned in the Qur’an - What I can say, ‘May be they were’ - I don’t know. But even if they were, they were only meant for that time, and they were only supposed to be followed by that particular people. The Scriptures that came before the Qur’an, they were only meant for a particular group of people, and they were only meant to be followed till that time. So even if they were words of God - Even if the previous messengers were messengers of God - you only have to follow the last and final messenger - that is Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him). Even if the other scriptures were the word of God, today you have to follow the last and final message of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, - that is the Holy Qur’an, and nothing else. Regarding - can you be a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, - is it the same? No it is not the same. Why – Because if you analyze the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch. 3 V. No. 52, that Jesus (Peace be upon him), he was a Muslim. Same thing, as the Bible says in Gospel of John, Ch. 5, V. No. 30…‘I seek not my will, but the will of my Father’.
</b> If you translate into Arabic, ‘Not my will…God’s will’… It is nothing but Islam – He was a Muslim. Abraham (Peace be upon him) - the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch.3, V. 67… ‘He was not a Jew or a Christian – He was a Muslim’. So today, if you have to choose any Religion – the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch. 3, V. 19…(Arabic)... ‘The only Religion acceptable in the sight of Allah (swt), is Islam’. Though the other religions speak about Monotheism – only Monotheism is not sufficient. You have to believe in Tawheed – You have to do ‘Ibada’ of Allah (swt). That is why the Holy Qur’an repeats the message in the Surah Al Imran Ch. 3, V.No.85, that… ‘If anyone desires any other religion besides Islam… submitting will to Allah (swt) – it will not be accepted of him. And in the Hereafter, he will be among the losers’.

[Curious Christian]

<b>Why Islam?</b>


Many people have the misconception that Islam came into existence, and the founder of the religion of Islam was Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), 1400 years ago. In fact Islam is there in existence since time immemorial - since man set foot on the earth. And the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Fatir, Chapter 35, Verse No.24…(Arabic)…‘There is not a nation or a tribe to whom We have not sent a warner’. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Rad, Chapter No.13, Verse No.7…(Arabic)…. ‘And to every nation have We sent a guide’. By name only 25 are mentioned in the Holy Qur’an - But our Prophet Muhammed (Salallahu Alaihi Wasallam) - he said that there were more than 124 thousand messengers sent on the face of the earth. By name we know only 25, mentioned in the Holy Qur’an - Adam, Moses, Jesus, Solomon, Muhammed, (Peace be upon them all) - But there were more than one hundred and twenty four thousand messengers sent. Similarly by name we know only four Revelations of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, of Almighty God - the Torah, the Zabur, the Ingel and the Furqaan. The Torah is the ‘Wahee’, ‘the Revelation’ which was given to Moses (Peace be upon him), Zabur is the ‘Wahee’, ‘the Revelation’ which was given to David (peace be upon him), Ingel is the ‘Wahee’ ‘the Revelation’ which was given to Jesus (Peace be upon him), and Furqaan, that’s ‘the Holy Qur’an’ is the last and final revelation which was given to the last and final messenger, Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him). But if you analyze that all the other Scriptures, - whether are they the word of God or not - Bible, can I say it’s the word of God or not? We believe in the Ingel, the ‘Wahee’ which was given to Isa Alaysalam - This Bible that the Christians have today, is not the ‘Wahee’ which we believe in. This Bible does contain the word of God - It also contains the word of Prophet, and also words of historians, as well as pornography. It is totally not the word of God - No wonder the Christian scholars, they are keeping on revising the Bible. We believe in the original ‘Wahee’ given to Isa Alaysalam - But the present Bible is not the correct ‘Wahee’- It may contain part of the ‘Wahee’. How to check up, which part is true? - We have to check it with the ‘Furqaan’ - And the Furqaan is the Holy Qur’an. Simlilarly, if you analyze all the messengers that were sent before Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) - all the revelations that came before Holy Qur’an… all of these revelations and these messengers were only sent for their people and their message was supposed to be followed only for a particular limited time period. As the Holy Qur’an Says in Surah Al-Imran, Chapter No.3, V.49, that… ‘Isa Alysalaam – He was sent only for the Bani Israel’. The message is repeated in Surah Saff, Chapter No.61, Verse No.6… ‘that Isa Alysalam, the son of Mary was sent only for the Bani Israel… the children of Israel’. The same message is given in Bible in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.10, Verse No.5 to 6, that Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) tells his disciples that ‘go ye not into the way of the Gentiles’ Who are the Gentiles? The Non-Jews, the Hindus, the Muslims. ‘Go ye not into the way of the Gentiles, but rather go to lost sheep of the house of Israel’ - that means he was only sent for the house of Israel. Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) said - It’s mentioned in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.15 Verse No.24 that ‘I have not been sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’. So all the messengers, and all the revelations - by name only four revelations are given in the Holy Qur’an.


But there were several revelations of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, like ‘Sugfe Ibrahim’ and various other Revelations. But all the revelations that came before the Holy Qur’an, and all the messengers that came before Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) - they were only sent for their people and for a particular time period. But our beloved Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him), the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Anbiya, Chapter 21, Verse No.107, it says… (Arabic)…. ‘That We have sent thee, not but as a mercy to the whole of humankind, as a mercy to all the worlds, as a mercy to all the creatures’. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah Saba, Chapter 34, Verse No.28 that …(Arabic)… That ‘We have sent thee not but as a universal messenger, giving glad tidings and warning them against sin - But most of the human kind yet do not know’. Similarly all the Religious scriptures that were sent by Allah Subhana Wa Taala, that came before the Qur’an, were only meant for that people, and for a particular time period. But the Holy Qur’an - it says in Surah Ibrahim, Chapter 14, Verse 52, as well as Surah Baqarah, Chapter 2 Verse 185, and Surah Al-Zumur, Chapter 39, Verse No.41, that it was sent for the whole of humanity


are these Scriptures - the Vedas, the Bible, the Zend Avesta, the Dasatir, the Upanishads - are they the word of Almighty God? What I can say – that we believe in ‘Injil’ as the word of God - But the present Bible is not the word of God. Regarding Veda, Upanishad, Geeta, Zend Avesta, Dasatir, I can say - may be they were the word of God - May be. I cannot say for sure, since the Qur’an does not say that Vedas is the word of God - I cannot say for sure. I can only say ‘may be’ they were word of God. But even if they were the word of God, all the Scriptures besides the Holy Qur’an, have been changed by human beings - they have been corrupted. As a famous critic of Islam, William Myore - He said 2 centuries before, that ‘the only Religious Scripture which has maintained its purity, is the Holy Qur’an for 12 centuries. <b>William Myore, who is a very strong critic of Islam - he had - to agree that this Qur’an has maintained its original purity for 12 centuries - He said this 200 years before.[/
b] So regarding the messengers, whether Ram…whether Ram whether Lakshman, all these, were they messengers of God or not? Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) - he was - Because the Qur’an says. But the name of Ram and Buddha and Zorastras is not mentioned in the Qur’an - What I can say, ‘May be they were’ - I don’t know. But even if they were, they were only meant for that time, and they were only supposed to be followed by that particular people. The Scriptures that came before the Qur’an, they were only meant for a particular group of people, and they were only meant to be followed till that time. So even if they were words of God - Even if the previous messengers were messengers of God - you only have to follow the last and final messenger - that is Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him). Even if the other scriptures were the word of God, today you have to follow the last and final message of Allah Subhana Wa Taala, - that is the Holy Qur’an, and nothing else. Regarding - can you be a Christian, Hindu, Muslim, - is it the same? No it is not the same. Why – Because if you analyze the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch. 3 V. No. 52, that Jesus (Peace be upon him), he was a Muslim. Same thing, as the Bible says in Gospel of John, Ch. 5, V. No. 30…‘I seek not my will, but the will of my Father’.
</b> If you translate into Arabic, ‘Not my will…God’s will’… It is nothing but Islam – He was a Muslim. Abraham (Peace be upon him) - the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch.3, V. 67… ‘He was not a Jew or a Christian – He was a Muslim’. So today, if you have to choose any Religion – the Holy Qur’an says in Surah Al Imran, Ch. 3, V. 19…(Arabic)... ‘The only Religion acceptable in the sight of Allah (swt), is Islam’. Though the other religions speak about Monotheism – only Monotheism is not sufficient. You have to believe in Tawheed – You have to do ‘Ibada’ of Allah (swt). That is why the Holy Qur’an repeats the message in the Surah Al Imran Ch. 3, V.No.85, that… ‘If anyone desires any other religion besides Islam… submitting will to Allah (swt) – it will not be accepted of him. And in the Hereafter, he will be among the losers’.

Couldn't disagree more. But thanks for the thought. Jesus was not a Muslim. Jesus is the only son of God who died for our behalf so that those who believe and repent can have everlasting communion with God. If he was trully a Muslim prophet then he would be a liar.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

Couldn't disagree more. But thanks for the thought. Jesus was not a Muslim. Jesus is the only son of God who died for our behalf so that those who believe and repent can have everlasting communion with God. If he was trully a Muslim prophet then he would be a liar.

You have to understand first what is the meaning of a Muslim before you say that Jesus was not.


a Muslim is he who sumbit himself to the will of the Almighty God. and what did Jesus say??


Let us look at what Jesus said in Luke 6:40 in the language of Aramaic translated into Hebrew as shown below:





"Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she<b>'MUSHLAM</b> yihyeh k'rabbo."


Taken from the Aramaic bible society. See also the PDF file at this link.


Note: Aramaic and Hebrew are read from right to left, which is opposite to English.


Translation in English: "No student can be above his teacher, but everyone that is a <b>MUSLIM</b>, can be as his teacher."


<b>Important Note: </b> The Hebrew word "<b>Mushlam</b>" comes from the root <b>"Sh L M". </b> "<b>Shalom"</b> which comes from the same root means "<b>peace</b>". The Arabic word <b>"Muslim</b>" comes from the root "<b>S L M". "Salam" </b> means <b>"peace". </b> "<b>Salem"</b> means "<b>safe". </b> Also taken from the Aramaic bible society,


http://home.comcast.net/~rzuberi/index_f...ge0005.htm, and http://home.comcast.net/~rzuberi/articles/...The_Teacher.pdf.


ALSO in one verse Jesus said, i can of my own self do NOTHING as I hear I judge and my judgment is just, because am not seeking my own will but the will of My father.


Anyone who says this statement means he is a Muslim


Salam


Wael.

[reepicheep]

Well, Wel_mel_2, I see you continue to do your bizarre, unattributed, "cut and pastes" from the www.answering-christianity.com website. You are certainly predictable, if nothing else.


Your argument can apparently be summarized as follows: the Hebrew word for "perfect" is "mushlam". "Mushlam" kind of sounds like "muslim". Therefore, Christianity is false.


That about sum it up? If so, then all I can say is that I don't find your "logic" very convincing.

[wel_mel_2]

Well, Wel_mel_2,


Your argument can apparently be summarized as follows: the Hebrew word for "perfect" is "mushlam". "Mushlam" kind of sounds like "muslim". Therefore, Christianity is false.


That about sum it up? If so, then all I can say is that I don't find your "logic" very convincing.

If you doubt any of my arguments, you can do your homework and find out whether these information false or true.


Salam


Wael.

[Curious Christian]

If you doubt any of my arguments, you can do your homework and find out whether these information false or true.


Salam


Wael.

Yes, of course Jesus submitted to the will of the Father.


Muslim, as commonly known in this world today, means a member of the Islamic faith.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

Yes, of course Jesus submitted to the will of the Father.

this is what we are trying to say since generations CC, if he submitted his will to the will of the Father, then Jesus himself was not a God... becauce God need not to submit himself to anyone else.


Salam


Wael.

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


this is what we are trying to say since generations CC, if he submitted his will to the will of the Father, then Jesus himself was not a God... becauce God need not to submit himself to anyone else.


Salam


Wael.

It is the Trinity Wel Mel. The inter workings of the nature of the Godhead.

[Dan]

Bismillah


I don't understand where these terms come from, trinity and godhead. I have not seen them in the Bible with God applying them to Himself so can people define God in their own words? (If this question is coming off sarcastic, I apologize. I truly would be interested in knowing their origins.)

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


I don't understand where these terms come from, trinity and godhead. I have not seen them in the Bible with God applying them to Himself so can people define God in their own words? (If this question is coming off sarcastic, I apologize. I truly would be interested in knowing their origins.)

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