Good biblical defense of the Trinity

[reepicheep]

An Examination of Jesus’ Use of Psalm 82:6 in Defense of his Deity

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah:


the responsibility which was given to them was different CC, but the message was always same. Jesus was given the commandment to deliver God's message to the children of Israel ONLY but Muhammad was given the same message to deliver it to the whole worlds. Muhammad pbuh responsiblity was more difficult and so was greater than that of Jesus', and he was able by God's help to accomblish his mission and spread Allah's message and that makes him greater than any other soul. he is considered to be the leader and seal of all Prophets. but Muslims are also asked to look upon all other prophets with equal reverence and respect.


one of the reasons of Muhammad's greatness is is his life which considered to be unique among the founders of all other faiths. he was a ruler, an administrative, a soldier and a stateman, a husband and father, he taught about all aspect of life and put the solutions to their problems. social, political, econimic, religous, commercial and cultural etc. such model can be found ONLY in the life of Prophet Muhammad pbuh.


<b>Lamartine</b>, in his HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.


Salam


Wael.

So why then was Jesus brought up to heaven by God while Mohammed still lies in his grave having suffered death on earth?

[arclight]

while Mohammed still lies in his grave having suffered death on earth?

Mohammed doesn't. His body does.

[Curious Christian]

Mohammed doesn't. His body does.

So again...why was did Allah spare Jesus from death but not Mohammed?

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

So why then was Jesus brought up to heaven by God while Mohammed still lies in his grave having suffered death on earth?

First, you must know that death for the believing soul it is not suffering at all.


Now, the plan of the Almighty God to take up Jesus alive up to Himself because his mission was not complete. he said so in the Bible if you remember, <b>“I have yet many things to say unto you but you cannot bear them now”</b> so Jesus in his second coming will make things clear that he is not God and that God is only ONE who is worthy of worship and that the religion in the sight of Almighty God is only ISLAM (submission). he will come to complete his mission CC and after that he will also die as all other Prophets. so he will not escape death.


Salam


Wael.

[Rock]

Bismillah


Curious Christian


I read your new thread concerning the same subject and I am still need some clarification.


It is clear that you believe in the existance of three:


The father,Jesue the son and the Holy spirit.


You called each one of them"God"and this contradict your believing in one God.you clarify this contradiction by believing that these three are one.


I can`t understand this.I can`t understand that me and my father and my friend are one person,I can understand that me and my friend may represent my father,do you mean that ?


Do you mean that the son and the holy spirit represent the father.?


Can we say that the Father is the only God and He gave the son and the holy spirit some jobs to do?


Considering that the word"God"means the creator of the universe,can we call the son and the holy spirit "Gods"?Are they created or shared in creation of the universe?


Who created the son and the holy spirit?

[Curious Christian]

Bismillah


Curious Christian


I read your new thread concerning the same subject and I am still need some clarification.


It is clear that you believe in the existance of three:


The father,Jesue the son and the Holy spirit.


You called each one of them"God"and this contradict your believing in one God.you clarify this contradiction by believing that these three are one.


I can`t understand this.I can`t understand that me and my father and my friend are one person,I can understand that me and my friend may represent my father,do you mean that ?


Do you mean that the son and the holy spirit represent the father.?


Can we say that the Father is the only God and He gave the son and the holy spirit some jobs to do?


Considering that the word"God"means the creator of the universe,can we call the son and the holy spirit "Gods"?Are they created or shared in creation of the universe?


Who created the son and the holy spirit?

Rock I agree that the concept is difficult to understand.


The simpliest answer is that God the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit have always been as they are now and all exist in unison as God.


Take a look at my thread about "answering questions." I give a biblical basis for the existence of the three.


The Trinity is a great mystery. But God, being all powerfull, works outside of our human understanding.

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

The Trinity is a great mystery. But God, being all powerfull, works outside of our human understanding.

How can we possibly believe in something that our human understanding cannot comprehend? Are we asked to believe in something that is not understandable?


Salam


wael.

[reepicheep]

> How can we possibly believe in something that our human


> understanding cannot comprehend? Are we asked to believe


> in something that is not understandable?


Do you claim to have a perfect understanding of Allah?

[wel_mel_2]

Bismillah:

> How can we possibly believe in something that our human


> understanding cannot comprehend? Are we asked to believe


> in something that is not understandable?


Do you claim to have a perfect understanding of Allah?

I claim to have a perfect understanding of what He (God) have revealed about Himself which make NO ONE CONFUSE.


SAY HE IS ALLAH, THE ONE AND ONLY (NOT THREE IN ONE OR THREE IN ONE)



ALLAH THE ABSOLUTE AND ETERNAL


HE BEGETS NOT NOR WAS HE BEGOTTEN (GOD DOES NOT HAVE ANY SON)



AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM. (NOTHING LIKE HIM MEAN NO ONE IS EQUAL TO HIM OR COMPARABLE TO HIM)



No confusion. And this is how God communicate with His people. Even the Bible said <b>GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION</b>. Yet Trinity alone confused priests, pastors, preacher and Bishops and Alhamdulelah some of them end up as Muslims.


Salam


Wael