MY JOURNEY TO ISLAM

[Muslimah]

amai on a different topic I posted several links for u to read, did u read them? simply we can not go on answering your questions, just because u have time and feel that u like to look a challenging member who was able to defeat the Muslims. I told u before Praise be to Allah we are certain, satisfied and compatible with what we have. And the fact that u only converted 2 months ago, made me realize your situation even more. We are really willing to help u. Just read the threads I posted to u first then come back. OK amai dud

[hefny]

Amai

All your answers and attitudes is there in the Quran that is why it is not surprising for us what so ever you said :cry:

But just to remind you that Islam not for fun & there is accountability that is why most of non-believers do not want come in (Islam is the fair way of life)

:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: But if you wake up one day and you do not find any one care about you because you misuse all your giving things you can find a mercy in Islam

In Islam you will never feel alone physically or emotionally

In Islam you can call Allah any time and get answer

In Islam we believe in other religions came from Allah

[amai]

Exactly what I said above, you read but do not comprehend a single thing. Everything we post supports the Quran.[/quote:5a48ed6354]oh wow, what an accusation. you tell me i'm like this without giving a certain situation.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whe do not attack Christianity, We are answering your questions. [/quote:5a48ed6354]oh, you sure do.

[b:5a48ed6354]but what about the fact that Quran says the [u:5a48ed6354]sun sets in a pond?[/u:5a48ed6354][/b:5a48ed6354]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Again you do not comprehend. ISLAM IS A LIFESTYLE.What part do you not understand? I did not revert to Islam because it "suits" my lifestyle, it is the sumbmission to Allah and his will. This you can not possibly understand because you fail to actually think of any opinion but your own.[/quote:5a48ed6354]

again, what an accusation.

ok, so i'll settle to "islam is a lifestyle." but look at hefny's post:

[i:5a48ed6354]"I compared the two religions and found Islam to conform to my intellect and nature, in addition to my [b:5a48ed6354][u:5a48ed6354]ideals[/b:5a48ed6354][/u:5a48ed6354] of modesty, cleanliness, justice, and dignity."[/i:5a48ed6354]

ideals is the keyword dude, [b:5a48ed6354]ideals.[/b:5a48ed6354] it's not evidence or proofs, just ideals.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To say what difference it would make if you read either the Bible or the Quran shows your lack of understanding.[/quote:5a48ed6354]again and again, i rely on evidences. i understand the basic of Quran. one God, Jesus wasn't crucified, Allah is the source of both good and evil, not associated to any partners, Mohammed is greater than Jesus, Jesus was only a prophet, angels are Allah's servants without freewill, Gabriel is the Holy Spirit and others.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What difference would it make if you prepared yourself for any subject in school??? If you did not study, do you think you could fully understand any subject?[/quote:5a48ed6354]but do i have to read the whole book of say, physics? no. as you said, "understand". you don't have to read everything about topic just to able to understand it.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Or even get a passing grade. Really, think a little bit. [/quote:5a48ed6354] since i know that Area of a triangle is 1/2 bh, i understand how to derive formula, i'm confident i can get at least a passing grade.

since i know some basics of islam, i understand some concepts, then i can possibly have a decent conversation with a muslim.

for example you've read the most complete book regarding the basics, foundations and processes of evolution. you were fascinated by it yet the book doesn't contain any evidence to support the theory. will you be able to decide whether to believe it or not well?

for example, you've read the whole of the Quran and you were fascinated by it yet the book doesn't contain enough evidence to support the things written in there, are you sure you're even reading the "true" book?

of course you have to look for evidences. just like what i'm doing,.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>amai on a different topic I posted several links for u to read, did u read them?[/quote:5a48ed6354]just one so far.(there were 3, right?) i believe it was about someone commenting on how great the Quran is. i think one of the topics also was about you journey to islam, right?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>simply we can not go on answering your questions,[/quote:5a48ed6354]i wonder why...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> And the fact that u only converted 2 months ago, made me realize your situation even more.[/quote:5a48ed6354] details details...

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We are really willing to help u. Just read the threads I posted to u first then come back. OK amai dud [/quote:5a48ed6354]yeah, i'll sure do. but not right away.

hefny>> i'm searching for the truth, basing on evidences not "emotional" or something claims.

the thing is, the Bible is more reliable in terms of the archeological findings. many cities in the Bible were already found, many biblicial events(exodus, fall of jericho) has evidences backing it up, many biblical people have been found to be real historical figure, Josephus' book "Jewish Antiquities" tells the history of the jews from creation with the accounts the same(if not, compatible) with that of the Bible and hundreds of prophecies had been fulfilled. the Bible can even defend itself from the so-called science.

i'm looking for evidences like those above that can reasonably support Quran.

sidequestion(please answer it): what happened to the body of the person who was crucified in Jesus' place?

i'm not looking for a loophole when posing that question.(just informing you before i'm again accused of something) it's a sincere question.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In Islam we believe in other religions came from Allah[/quote:5a48ed6354]suppose you meant that the religions were only corrupted through time.(well, is that what you meant?)

if it's only corrupted through time, then we can assume that at the early beginning it wasn't that corrupt yet.(or maybe not even corrupt at all)

Christianity began at around early 30s A.D. yet at around 33-34 A.D.(at the latest) the Apostles and disciples were already preaching that Jesus is God, that He was the promised Messiah, He was crucified and that He resurrected, their life even hanging upon it.

yet those teachings before are still the same until now. the "original" religion Allah gave only differed a bit,(given only 0-4 after Jesus' resurrection) yet with very different teachings on what Muslims regard as the "truth."

if 40 students play the whispering thing, 30-34 A.D. falls on the 2nd or third or even fourth player from the original whisperer.

the original whisperer for example says something that is pure pure to the 2nd person. the 2nd person gives a bit altered words to the 3rd person, and the 3rd person gives another additional it to the fourth person. from the fourth person to the last, the message remained the same. that could mean that the final result was near to that of the original.

apply that to the religion Allah gave.

Allah is the whisperer, revealing(giving) christianity to mankind. He gives it purely to the 1st person(person = time). this 1st person gives it a bit altered to the 2nd, 2nd to 3rd, and 3rd to fourth. the message of the fourth remains unaltered til the 40th. because of the little "alteration",(if there is) then we can say that the belief commonly held today by christians are near to that of the original thing given by Allah.

yet Christianity has vast difference to islam!

well, if that was what you meant by your statement. :oops: i wouldn't want to be accused of "assuming" on that topic, you know.

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[Muslimah]

amai until u read what i posted for u hold your questions up

and calm down

we know u r defending your faith

we also are willing to help

just take the time instead of replying here and defending your position. Read the posts pls. btw. no one is going to discuss with u until u come back and tell us I already read the posts. They are important. And it is not just someone saying how the Quran is great. This is not a joke. See again. u also take half of the sentence and build an argument on it. Just read amai Dude the posts ok

[Ahmed Abdullah]

I am only going to say one thing. What we post about the Quran supports the Quran. If we did not say the truth, we will be accounctable on the day of judgement. We will be accountable for [b:d45eeca342]all [/b:d45eeca342]we say and do. May Allah guide us all to the straight path. Ameen.

[amai]

What we post about the Quran supports the Quran.[/quote:550ea46415]like? those quoted verses? opinions of some people? christian attacks?

give me some [b:550ea46415]archeological[/b:550ea46415] evidences that supports the Quran. i wouldn't settle for just a claim.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>amai until u read what i posted for u hold your questions upand calm down[/quote:550ea46415]

hehe... don't worry, i'm calming down. even with those "heated" words and slightly blunt language, i take nothing against you guys. i may sound this and that, but i have no anger or whatsoever in my er... [i:550ea46415]heart.[/i:550ea46415]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="389" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>u also take half of the sentence and build an argument on it.[/quote:550ea46415]if i did, please point out where i did that. i would be willing to delete or edit my "argument" if i really replied on a half-statement. i read whole posts and if i quote the half-sentences, it's usually because the other sentences have nothing to do with what i'm replying to. i avoid being someone who takes things out of the context.

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[SisterJennifer]

amai on a different topic I posted several links for u to read, did u read them? [/quote:22e6009c8c][i:22e6009c8c]Well.................[/i:22e6009c8c]

[amai]

well..........?

:?

[Muslimah]

amai if u r serious in wanting to know read the links and I will post more links for u to read. But if u just want to carry on replying and complaining that we don't answer your questions. Then it is no use. U waste our time and yours. We give u links to answer your questions. u don't read. come back with the same questions. It is a vicious circle. Just read. Then come back when you are done. Tomorrow Insh a Allah will post more.

[amai]

due to [i:e59f93fd95]popular[/i:e59f93fd95] demand, i've read 2 of the shorter topics you've posted.

one was Robin Peters(whoever she may be) telling how great and fantastic Quran is and that Christians should learn a lesson from it.

i'll deal with this later.

what really surprised me was the "splitting-moon" miracle. i have some "thoughts" regarding this, but i can't organize them well yet.(nighttime when i write this)

i argue with myself, but reaching to a rather weird conclusion.(couldn't tell you yet)

can my careful consideration of this topic at least prove to you that i'm not "closeminded, brainwashed, pressumptous, doesn't understand what she believes, a silly and naive 2 month convert whose mind has been invaded by Satan" and the other accusations you've said?

when i said(if i did here) that i always try to be open-minded, i meant it. i hope i proved what i meant.

just to let you know that even one evidence(compared to the multitude of evidence that supports the Bible) can get me into thinking. my brain is still intact and working.

but rest assured i'd be thinking and researching about this.