What R U Doing For New Year Eve

[laian]

Assalamu alaikum anyabwile,


I don't know if you realize, but I agree with you. If you will read my first post in this thread you will see I said exactly what you are saying.


My last post was addressed at rock, who I understood as saying that new years was not a religious holiday, and therefore it is ok to join in the celebration. I was clarifying that actually it <i>is</i> a religious holiday, so that justification is invalid.


1. I agree with you, anything the christians celebrate, we should have no part in.


2. the fact that it is a pagan holiday DOES matter, the pagans are worse than the christians, in that they believe in several gods and goddesses, they do not believe in the one god. So it is even worse to join in with the christians when they are celebrating something pagan.


The reason muslim men are allowed to marry christian women but not pagan women is because despite the blasphemy of the christian's belief of the trinity, they still believe in the one god (in a twisted way), and they believe in the same prophets that we do, except mohammed saws. The pagans do not recognize the one god at all, nor do they recognize the prophets or any divine revelation.


I understand you are very disgusted by the christian beliefs, and I don't blame you because I feel pretty much the same way. But it seems they are the only ones you are concentrating on as being un-islamic, they are the only ones you fear to copy, when in fact even the Qur'an says that the christians are the closest to our religion out of all the religions of the world. I don't have the ayat right now, but I can find it for you if you like. You are right about not joining the kafir... but christians arent the only kafirs. And there are worse beliefs in the world than that of the christians, and <b>all</b> of them should be avoided.


Hope that clears up my stance on this thread, and I will stop posting here because it seems like I keep saying the same thing over and over. If nobody understands my point by now, then Allaho alim.


wasalam

[Anyabwile]

The reason muslim men are allowed to marry christian women but not pagan women is because despite the blasphemy of the christian's belief of the trinity, they still believe in the one god (in a twisted way), and they believe in the same prophets that we do, except mohammed saws. The pagans do not recognize the one god at all, nor do they recognize the prophets or any divine revelation.

Assalamu Alalikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh


You're still missing my point, you're too offended by what i'm saying about the Christians. Sure i hear what you're saying, being a Christian is better than not being one. Even when i was Agnostic it would have at least been better for me to be a Christian. I sometimes see Christians as confused little cousins, they are there but need guidance to the only religion God will accept. This is why the scholars say a Muslim man can marry a Christian woman but not the other war around. As Islamically the man being the head of the household can persuade the woman to be Muslim i suppose, this is what i read anyway. Because even if they are together, if she dies in a state of not being Muslim, in the hereafter, she will be amongst the losers.


However, how many Christians do you know today who don't accept the Trinity at all, or who think Jesus was just a mighty messanger of God as opposed to his son? I don't know many, although there are about 95 different sects and denominations of Christianity so i may be wrong here. But modern Christians don't think Jesus was just a Prophet, they think he is the son of God (Blasphemous according to the Qur'an) and modern day Christians belive in three Gods. That join up as one (also blasphemous according to the Quran) I don't know how many Christians there are who dont think Jesus is the son of God, or who don't belive in the trinity embaressment that are remaining today, i have never met any. But these are the ones we may marry. But they would still need to become Muslim before they die. According to my understanding of the Qur'an, or else they will be amongst the losers in there hereafter, and you don't want to be there.


Al-hamdu lillahi rabbil 'alamin

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


as salam alykom


may be I can highlight something here


laian the reason Muslim men are allowed to marry people of the book and not pagans. Is that people of the book belive in something and thus shall observe moral standards in terms of respecting husband's rights and not teaching.

[KeePtHeFaitH]

I think cristmas and newyear is different. New year has some meaning for some ppl just a new year nothing much. Cristmas is only religious day...


Dont all islamic countrys using this cristian calender? Why use they this calendarium, they will be cristian country?,No...


btw:how are you all in this brand new year?any1 in hajj now of members? Here is a salam from me to very very old known brothers and sisters and Goodluck...


btw: where is br. islam ? he is not to see also with my messenger...is Br.ToDD, and sisterjennifer are away from board?ws

[KeePtHeFaitH]

hmmm.it seems i m still on the Ignore list?:-) :ph34r ...I could now in mecca...inshaallah....

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


Just thought to bring this up today for the same purpose.

[mohsie]

It is not our new year. We are Muslims. We follow the Islamic Calendar. Our new year is another month away. However, we are starting a new month.. the Blessed month of Dhul-Hijjah tomorrow inshaAllah.


P.S: Although you have revived this topic, it is not showing on the first page. I think you have to change the order in which the posts appear to sort by last post date and not by the date the topic was started. Astagfirullah! I am making more work for you again :(

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


on the contrary mohsie Mash a Allah u must draw my attention for the best of this place. we are working hard to bring back everything Insh a Allah

[radiyah]

Bismillah


Alhamdulilah for islam, I was watching the news yesterday at Arabiya chanel and they came with a small clip about the celebrations of new year, and i looked at all those people dancing drinking and celebrating, and said to myself la hawla wala gowata ila bi Allah, they think that they are doing something good. Alhamdulilah for the blessing of Islam. I would like to congratulate all my muslim sisters and brothers for The Month of Tho Al-Hija, The month of Pilgrimige to Mekka The Holy House, and I pray to Allah(SWT) that this new Hijri year muslims will be stronger in faith and more united against all its enemies Ameen.

Bismillah
on the contrary mohsie Mash a Allah u must draw my attention for the best of this place. we are working hard to bring back everything Insh a Allah

Jazakum Allah khayr sister, may Allah(SWT) reward u all for this effort, and put it in the scale of your hasanat. Ameeeen


Salam


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