A bit confuse on Surah 4 An-Nisa

[waheedrafiq]

I am very confuse about Surah 4 An – Nisa


Ver 135 { V.4:135)


O you who believe ! Stand out firmly for Justices as witnesses to Allah even thought it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is better protector to both ( than you). So follow not lusts( of your hearts), lest you avoid justices; and if you disfort your witness or refuse to give it, verily allah is Ever well-Acquaited with what you do[1].


The above was copy word by word from the Holly book Quran. What I am confuse about its when its ask me to refer to [1] and this is what it say


V.4.135 Narrated Anas The prophet was asked about the great sins. He said “ They are:


1) To join others in worship with Allah{ I am confuse about this one when you pray you are joining others in worship with Allah}


2) To be undutiful to one’s parents { no idea about this one}


3) To kill a person ( Which Allah has forbidden to be killed ie. To commit the crime of murdering { I understand with this point}


So I hope you brothers and sister can help me as I am very confuse unless I have mis understood something.


Plz help

[mohsie]

ah! I see your confusion!


The first point says "To join others IN worship WITH Allah" ... that means associating someone and worshipping them as if they were god. i.e. worshipping someone else apart from Allah i.e. committing shirk. That is different from "To join others TO worship Allah", which means maybe praying in congregation.


Hope that helps inshaAllah [img]style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img]

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


as salam alykom brother waheed


How are u hope all is fine with u and family, how was ramadan this year? hope u were able to keep it all Insh a Allah


Now as far as the ayah, I m trying to see why u r confused or where exactly u r confused. Also i m trying to see how u relate it to the hadeeth.


so till u further explain, Insh a Allah about the hadeeth, it indicates the major sins I mean Allah in Quran say:


:Say (O Muhammad): "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him
; be good and dutiful to your parents
; kill not your children because of poverty
- We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to shameful, indecent sins whether committed openly or secretly
, and kill not anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islamic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand." (Quran 6:151)


"Verily, <b>Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship,</b> but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin
." (Quran: 4:48)


"Verily! <b>Allah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners in worship with Him, </b>but He forgives whom he pleases sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, has indeed strayed far away."
(Quran 4:116)


If u check those two Ayahs you will just see that item #1 in the hadeeth is a confirmation and explanation. #1 of major sins is to take associates with Allah.


You are confused about praying and Im not sure how u see that when we pray we take associates with Allah ( i seek refuge to Allah).


Let me go thru this step by step with u, in English u use the word pray to describe prayer as an obligatory worship (salah) and u also use it when u want to say like i will pray for u, like you will ask Allah for things for the person you are talking to. This we call Dua to make Dua.


While during prayer (the worship u also make dua). but u can never pray to anyone but to Allah, u can never call anyone for help, assistance, forgiveness, ..etc except Allah. If one does this, that is what is called taking associates with Allah.


hope this part is clear.


ok to the next point:


To be undutiful to one’s parents { no idea about this one}


Our parents have a major right over us, actually an important means to go easily to jannah is to be kind, attentive, concerned and do all u can to look after your parents.


Where in Quran, here it is the Ayah brother:


'Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, the poor, the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful;" (Quran 4:36)


Can see brother how important it is to be kind to one's parents, Allah placed it second after not to join none with Allah in worship. our parents are the reason we are here in this world, we must pay them due respect, kindness, we must be patient with them specially when they grow old, that is when they need us most. Remember they didnt spare no time or effort to look after us when we were helpless. It is their right to receive the same when they are old and need us. Even if their attitude may be sometimes not acceptable for us, we just restrain ourselves and never get bored or upset with them.


Insh a Allah till you clarify more where exactly u r confused in the Ayah, hope things are clear about the hadeeth.

[waheedrafiq]

V.4.135 Narrated Anas The prophet was asked about the great sins. He said “ They are:


1) To join others in worship with Allah{ I am confuse about this one when you pray you are joining others in worship with Allah}


2) To be undutiful to one’s parents { no idea about this one}


3) To kill a person ( Which Allah has forbidden to be killed ie. To commit the crime of murdering { I understand with this point}


firstly many thanks to Brother Mohsie and my Sister Muslimah who i pray for happyness and peace may Allah bring his blessing on you both.


sister Muslimah its have been a long time since i last ask my question due to my Imraan going all over the place I have finally realzie and taken the step to become a better muslim I pray to Allah to help me in my journary


sister Muslimah and Brother Moshsie i am lost just a bit on the point 1) To join others in worship with Allah.{ now in plain english it means what it says " To join others in Worship with Allah. i think Brother Moshsie has explain well and i clearly understood his claification.


as for you my sister Muslimah many thanks for explaining me the other points in details i too have understood those may the Great Allah guide us both / all in the right path.


Inshalla sister you shall see a different Abul- Waheed-Rafiq , I pray to Allah a better one than before.


Salaam.