Sister Yvonner Ridley

[radiyah]

My attitude toward sanctimonious clap trap is consistant.

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Bismillah


And who r u john to judge people, do u read the hearts and minds of human beings to judge them as u r ??

[Muslimah]

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Radiyah I really dont mind at all what John is doing or any of his accusations. Alhamdulelah, u know this even is put in the balance of my good deeds.


That is ok I am not offended or taking it as disrespect. No problem. Probably he will start feeling bad again after sometimes like he did before.

[Muslimah]

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well john I think u aught to receive an anwer out of respect u r right.


Let me tell u personally, I read a statement by the then Grand Mufti of Egypt who went and visited Afghanistan in order to make an evaluation. I m not sure if u noticed but i prefer not to judge any party while i am sitting here in Egypt without an actual experience. I mean media can really play much in forming the public opinion. I m sure u agree with me on this.


After reading his statement, he clarified a lot of things. A number of issues were taken against Taliban of them, lack of education for girls. They explained, as far as I remember, that the regime is really on a short budget and they do fall in certain areas including women education. But as Radiay explained to u, this is unfortunately a problem many other developing countries are suffering.


Alhamdulelah I did receive education, unlike many of Egyptian women who belong to the working or poor classes. Matter of fact, the illiteracy rate is higher among women than men here in Egypt, the exact rate is not on my mind now, although I work with these issues a lot. Old age may be.


As far as I remember, because I dont want to put things unless I m certain about them. He came back with a report that much of the media reports included exaggeration.


At the end I will tell u John what I wish for, i wish to live under proper Islamic rulings.


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[Muslimah]

Bismillah


I m not sure why this loud voice and loss of temper you ve been adopting John. We are just discussing an issue. What all this?


I think Dan already posted a reply, if u want the reply of a woman, I d safely say I agree with Dan's.


Calm down John, we are talking not fighting.

[radiyah]

Bismillah

That is ok I am not offended or taking it as disrespect. No problem. Probably he will start feeling bad again after sometimes like he did before.

It is that he keeps saying that we judge people, and he is judging us. Anyways, now to the point u raised John. About our sister Muslimahs in Afghan:


First: Why do u care so much about them and keep calling them your sister muslimahs, as if u were a muslim yourself ?


Second: We did not say that the Taliban regime, is the most perfect islamic ruling, after the death of the four khalifites in islam, many muslim rulers who came were not perfect, none is perfect, but we cannot say that they are not ruling fully according to Islam they might have right and wrong doings, they are only humans, they are not saints, and u must know that islam is flexible, if u study sharia' and fiqh, u must know that when one scholar make a fatwa in his own community according to the society he is living in, the same fatwa may differ from another society. For example, driving in saudi arabia for women. driving is not haram, but the scholars there prohibit it because they are more aware of the saudi society and tradition and what are the bad consicounses that will happen from the woman driving now. So taliban may make fatwas according to their own tradition and society that they are more aware of. And we will leave the judging of their intentions to Allah(SWT). It is not our right to say if they are right or wrong, we are hearing from only one side of media as I told u before.


Third: Now would I like to switch places with my sisters under Taliban:


1- As I told u y should i, I am not afghani. And I cannot answer your question unless


I go there and c for myself. If i told u no then, i am giving myself the right to judge people whom I did not live with, which is not my right. And if I said yes, also I cannot because I do not know how life is there. But what I see in the media now, that there are many afghani girls who are removing thier veils, joining olympic games, and wearing tight clothes and shorts, which for sure I would not like to be.


2- But if I had a chance to go there, and see the truth only then I will answer your


Question.


Again I tell u there is poverty and lack of education all over the world, y stress on taliban, there is unjust in the whole world y taliban, just because they are muslims?

What has that got to do with the Taliban ? Why do you divert attention away

I am not diverting attention u called sister Muslimah as being "What sanctimonious clap trap" I am responding to this.


Peace

[radiyah]

Bismillah

How about a bit of sympathy and compassion for the women in Afghanistan instead of excuses ?

Is this is all what is about, u want us to feel sympathy over women in afghanistan, is this really what is bothering u, & y women are beaten in the streets. U keep on attacking us as being hyppocrites and having crocodile tears, first it is not up to u to judge us, and it is not up to u to say if we care for them or not.


Our sister Muslimahs were not being raped under taliban regime, our sisters in abu ghareeb and iraq are being raped daily since the US occupation.


Weather u like my answer or not, weather u mock it or not, I don't care about this anymore, u do not want to listen u just want your point of view to be right, and John u r repeating yourself, wether u like our answers or not, weather u accept our crocodile tears(as u call them) or not. We do not care, we as muslims know what we want, we do not need any1 to come and ask us to feel sympathey over our sisters in islam. And we can live with u calling us hyppocrites, no harm we will not die.


Peace

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


This is the photo gallery on Ridley's home page:


http://www.yvonneridley.com/photogallery.asp

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


John let me try and settle this issue for u here.


Not every single Muslim around the world is abiding by, agreeing fully, or let us say acting like a Muslim.


Mind u this is the case since the wake of humanity. For actually islam is the only religion Allah Ordained for mankind.


Even at the time of the Messenge prayer and peace be upon him, there were cases of robbery, sex outside of the wedlock, flirting etc. Mankind is mankind.


Now at the present time, there is a huge number of Muslims by heritage who are not praticing any aspect of Islam.


I will give u an example, I work as a translator which makes me exposed to a large sepctrum of people ranging from those working for international orginzations to NGOs etc. I met many of them who dont pray, fast or ..etc. Yet for instance I worked on a task with a woman who was married, she didnt practice, but she was discussing with me how we, women, must rally to insert the right to divorce oneself in a marriage contract. She told me that she stipulated this in her marriage contract.


Actually I didnt discuss with her how she is actually shopping around. She chooses what pleases her from the Islamic rights while she does not pay her dues.


So such organizations do exist, there are even Muslim women who dont believe that women Islamic dress code is even an obligation from Allah.


I just tried to communicate why those women may be against some of the regime's principle. I m not for or against Taliban. As I explained to u before.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


John this reply is for something different, I have been watching u lately enjoying to act with disrespect towards most members during any conversation. Have no idea why, as for me, I know why, u just cannt get to accept that I have to implment the rules. But calling Radiyah crocodile tears, and the rest of your comments. This really does not lead to a constructive discussion.


You have been here long enough to see that we can all talk with respect, pls keep this in mind.


We are Muslims, happy, proud and content to be so, grateful to Allah, we have no problem with any aspect of Islam.


You are a non beliver, happy, proud and content to be so. So we both should have no problem. We dont act aggressive towards u because we are not threatened.


so are you threatened?

[reepicheep]

I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Over 1,000 Canadian soldiers from my home town are currently in Afghanistan, helping the Afghan government bring order to their country.


A columnist from "The Edmonton Journal" newspaper writes a column where he talks about some of the experiences of the Canadian soldiers in Iraq. Here is an excerpt from today's story about a female police officer who was forced from her job by the taliban.

A television producer could make a reality TV series on Captain Jamilla Barakzai's life called CSI Kandahar, but no one would believe it.
Last June, as a crime scene investigator, the 35 year old mother of two was summoned to a local mosque to investigate a taliban inspired bombing that killed the Kandahar police chief and a dozen other worshippers.  Three weeks ago, she examined the body of a murdered mujahadeen leader whose tongue had been cut out before he was stabbed in both of his eyes and died.  His assailant or assailants then cut the victim's face in half, down the centre.


Barakzai's male colleagues couldn't stand to look at the corpse, much less handle it.  She pulled on a pair of latex gloves and got to work.


"I counted the stab wounds, photographed them, looked for documents on his body and checked his fingernails for any hair or skin left under them from a struggle," Barakzai says. 


...


Five years ago, and after a decade of police work, Barakzai had been fired by the ultra-conservative taliban government because she was a woman.  Like all women in Afghanistan she was confined to her house except for the rare occasion when she went out on a domestic errand.


"The first time I went out I did not wear a burrqa," she says.  "The religious police lashed me with an electrical cable.  After that lashing I wore a burqa."


She feels the 2001 defeat of the taliban by a coalition of western and Afghan forces hasn't changed her, however.  It has simply restored her status to what it was when she entered a student police academy in her mid-teens.


"When the taliban left I went to my old office, found my personal documents and went back to work," she says.


...


Several weeks ago she took a firearms course from Canadian military instructors at the Canadian Provincial Reconstruction Team compound in Kandahar.  The weapon she used was a box-fresh Hungarian version of the AK-47 assault rifle.  She learned to dismantle, clean, reassemble and fire the weapon.  When the course was over, she got to take the rifle home as her new police weapon.

This must be the worst nightmare of the taliban: an armed woman who knows how to defend herself. Instead of hiding at home as the taliban demanded of all women, Captain Barakzai is out on the streets of Kandahar, helping make Afghanistan a safe place to live.


Edmonton's soldiers from "The Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry" are proud to be in Afghanistan, helping to restore freedom to Muslims like Captain Jamilla Barakzai.