Through The Eyes Of A Muslim

[Rehmat]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rehmat" data-cite="Rehmat" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="2442" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> The basic aim of these Jooooz hackers is to create a arguement with Muslim posters on Christianity - to create a diversion - that the CONFLICT is between Christians and Muslims - And that the criminal Jooooz or Israel has nothing to do the world troubles.
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Bismillah


as salam alykom


and what u ve been doing rehmat since u joined? posting from the Injeel more than Quran. Turning the board into a chrisitanity teaching one.


for the last time I will ask u not to post from the injeel, just keep busy with Islam not yourself and your past experiences.

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Good grief!


Your ignorance about other religious books anazes me. When are you going to learn that INJEEL and TORAET, like ZABOOR don't exist anymore. According to Holy Qur'an and historical facts - the Old Testament is NOT Toraet, NOR the New Testament is Injeel - Is that clear for the last time?


Now about your 'double standards' - When some idiot RIDICULES Holy Qur'an - I never saw you giving him your LAST TIME warning - while my quoting Christian or Jewish script to RETURN the compliments to the 'ridiculor' always hurt your stomack.


Are you running a Muslim website - or I have been wasting my time so far?

[Rehmat]

That would be more directed to the west, not necessarily to Christians, since Christians have some of the same values as far as I am aware.

Muslims hatred toward the West is based on their brutal experience for the last 1400 years - Their ethnic cleansing in the Middle East at the hands of Christian Franks during the 10th-12th centuries; in Spain during the 14th-15th centuries; wars in Balkans, Greece and Sicily, etc. - And finally the western colonalization of entire Muslim world (except Turkey and Afghanistan), by British, French, German, Russian, Dutch and Portuguese, etc.


As a matter of fact, it were not the Muslims alone, even the Eastern Christians hated the West - and they still do - Palestinians, Iranians, and Africans - Listen to Nelson Mandela or Bishop Tutu!


Yes both Christianity and Judaism has some Divine messages in them, as testified by Holy Qur'an. On the other hand, historically, Judaism is more closer to Islam the Christianity.

It just so happens that america is a majority of Christians, so that kind of sticks with them. Just like terrorism sticks with Muslims.

No it has nothing to do with religion. Historically, 'terrorism' was coined for the Christian Fundamentalist groups in the 19th century, who wanted to establish a Religious State in the US.


Muslims were never called terrorists (rather Mujahids, by Ronald Reagan) till USSR was destroyed after their defeat in Afghanistan - just because the West needed a BOGEYMAN to keep it vulterous nature alive.

Also, in underdeveloped countries I think they view america as abusing their power, because america does have so much power and wealth, and like it or not most americans are kind of arrogant about that.

Can you blame for that? The US keeps its military presence in more than 100 foreign countries.


"When we go to other countries, we hate others culture, their customs, their laws, abuse their hospitality...man we are very dangerous people." - David Cohen, September 13, 2001 - The Washington Post.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


Rehmat thank u very much for the info but I am fully aware as a Muslim that neither the Torah nor the bible are in original form


and rather than arguing for the sake of argument when u fullyunderstood what i meant. we will appreciate if u dont dedicate posts to teach christianity


thank u

[Rehmat]

Bismillah
Rehmat thank u very much for the info but I am fully aware as a Muslim that neither the Torah nor the bible are in original form


and rather than arguing for the sake of argument when u fullyunderstood what i meant. we will appreciate if u dont dedicate posts to teach christianity


thank u

I started posting on internet to EXPOSE the western and Yahud-Nasara conspiracy against Islam and Muslims - convinced by the former Editorial Editor of The TORONTO STAR, Haroon Siddiqui - Who told me not to take my knowledge of Judo-Christianit religion and history to my grave - "Use it to defend your Faith before it's too late".


And that was six years ago. My journey has not been pleasant one, but I have no regrets.


Wa Salaam.

[Rehmat]

......confident in their religion and thus see no need to speak about anyone, even more confident than me no doubt, but i am getting to the stage they are at these days anyway. So anyway who is feeding me this? Please tell.

That's FATALISM which is totally against the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Sufism, Bahaism, and Salafism (to some extent) is based upon - Worry about "that world", while ignore "this world".


If those traditions were observed by the Prophet (pbuh) in his Mekkan (11 years) life - Islam would have died within few decades after his death.

[honeycomb]

i have to say that, no... muslims are not taught to hate non-muslims. Even Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) uncle was non-muslim. yet he loves him very dearly. When his uncle asked the Prophet (PBUH) to submit to the Quraisy, Prophet Mohammed ACTUALLY CRIED. & told his uncle why he won't desert Allah. & It softens his uncle's heart & he actually became to protect Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) from the Quraisy. Still sadly, his uncle died, without embracing Islam. The Prophet was very sad, but it's not up to the Prophet to force it on him, or any disbeliever.


The Prophet spread the guidance to the ones who want to believe. also, during Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) leadership in Medina, the various ppl live peacefully together & free to practice their religion under the Covenant of Medina.


so i don't know from where non-muslims think muslims hate them... maybe propaganda, their leaders, the war on terror prejudices... but really, muslims don't think to hate others.


here in my neighbourhood, i also have a Christian, Hindu & Buddhist neighbours just next to my house. growing up, i play Thundercats & Barbie Dolls with my Hindu neighbour, Gayathri, her family even sing their holy scriptures & we can hear them -- & we're fine. my neighbour at the back of my house invited us to their Christmas open-house, back at school -- i had sit next to a Chinese non-muslim girl, Kit Meng. we're all ok with each other. my Chinese neighbour even pray to his deity in front of the house... we can see them & all... when i was 12, my non-muslim teacher even gave me RM10 for no reason but i'm her student! i still remember it, it's such a nice gesture...


it's all ok, coz there's respect & sensitivities among all. i wish ppl the world would not hate muslims, coz i & ppl i know surely don't hate them.

[Anyabwile]

That's FATALISM which is totally against the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Sufism, Bahaism, and Salafism (to some extent) is based upon - Worry about "that world", while ignore "this world".
If those traditions were observed by the Prophet (pbuh) in his Mekkan (11 years) life - Islam would have died within few decades after his death.

Right well obviously we're Sunni, let's clear this one up. But sometimes when i get too passionate about offensive Christians, all over this forum for example i do get told to not push to hard with it. Give Da'wah then if they accept or listen so be it but not keep on pushing. Which to some extent i agree with, but i will never agree with letting Islam be spoke about in the ways that it is on here and just sitting back, which some brothers i speak with suggest i do. No i just can't go with it, never will.

[Anyabwile]

Now about your 'double standards' - When some idiot RIDICULES Holy Qur'an - I never saw you giving him your LAST TIME warning - while my quoting Christian or Jewish script to RETURN the compliments to the 'ridiculor' always hurt your stomack.

Personally i have to agree with this however....


I think Muslimah does the best job she can do considering the situation she is put in of running this board so i have to come to her defence here, whether she wants me to or not. Every post of hers if we all followed the way she debates or converses with the rude and offensive Christians on here. I think things would be a lot smoother. So i don't agree with you going at Muslimah personally...at least keep it focused on those who are attacking our beleifs. But i do agree with what i quoted above.


Assalamu Alalikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

[Rehmat]

So i don't agree with you going at Muslimah personally...at least keep it focused on those who are attacking our beleifs. But i do agree with what i quoted above.

Asslam-o-Aliakum


Now, why would I go after her or any other 'genuine' Muslim for that matter. If you read that particular post to which I made those comments - you will find that it was she who WARNED me - And it's not the first time - Muslimah and some of her 'friends' have warned me not on this Forum, but also via e-mails.


I don't understand why they're allergic to non-Muslims' '"holy books", which we (Muslims) and even thousands of Christian and Jewish scholars believe - are not divine but written and corrupted by men (mostly Jews), who were NOT inspired.


Wa Salaam.

[Muslimah]

Bismillah


as salam alykom


again and once more we are not ready to personlize this board rehmat. we did ask u kindly not to sort of go into posts like I know who u r?? and the like. we are not here for this purpose.


if u need to continue quoting from the bible for your own personal objective u can go ahead and do that in another web site.


Plus if u keep on adopting an aggressive attitude towards any member including non mulims which we dont accept either way, we will have to tell u again pls dont.


as simple as this u gain nothing but creating a tense atmospher within which no info can be really transmitted. What is the goal? spread Islam? make dawa? or gain attraction.


So the first two Alhamdulelah we are trying to do for the past 2 years. We are not reporting to u or any other member. We only report to Allah, so we dont even have to verify why we dont want u quoting from the bible.


Just look at how many threads u dedicated with only quotes from bible?


Alhamdulelah we are used to members like u to come on us or let us say me and my friends.


Well we are here to try and apply rules, hope u did read them and respect them as Muslim


Just focus on our Islam rehamt.


I think I will be repeating myself if I tell u that Quran and Sunnah have much to learn