QUSTIONs FOR BOTH WHISPER AND AMAI

[Muslimah]

As Salamu a`alamanitba`alhoda

I have two questions for both of you and I really hope you answer me sincerely:

1. What is the objective of your posts, I mean what are you aiming at exactly from each post?

2. Why did you join an Islamic board?

Answering those two questions actually shall solve a lot so pls take the time to tell us. We appreciate your time and effort.

[amai]

1.

What is the objective of your posts, I mean what are you aiming at exactly from each post?[/quote:a6d1ad9bc6]it depends actually

a. for my questions regarding islam be answered

b. to clear the wrong assumptions

c. to defend my faith

d. i'll think of others...

2.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why did you join an Islamic board?[/quote:a6d1ad9bc6]a. to help Muslims find Christ.(originally, but i don't think that's the case now)

b. to know how/what Muslims think and believe

c. to know why Muslims believe in Muhammad and the Quran

d. to answer some of the questions Muslims

e. i forgot the others...

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[Whisper]

In a nutshell,

I want you to drop the Qur'an in the long run, I hope somewhere down the line, you understand why 90% of scholars laugh at the Qur'an, the reason you won't see many scholars criticize the Qur'an in public or why Hollywood won't make a film about Muhammad is because the critique would be an utter embarrasment for Islam and the main point, there would be terrorist attacks everywhere, even more so than down.

Ultimately, I want you to do a 180 degree turn and convert to Christianity.

I joined your board so as to make you think.

[Muslimah]

Thank you amai for your honesty, direct and clear information. I think from here we will Insh a Allah start a new page.

[Muslimah]

Ok Whisper, at least now we are all clear about our objectives. Who asked you for your opinion? Why are u under the impression that we need your help? Who gave you the right to criticize Quran? And who told you we need Hollywood to make a movie about us? And unfortunately you are a terrible negotiator. You certainly lost a goal. I doubt it that even non Muslim members on this board are in any way siding with you. You even fail to properly articulate a post. You just want to insert as much as garble and attack as possible making your posts absolutely rediculous. Furthermore, you failed to make a proper representative of Christians. If only we were not already in touch with many of them, and we are commanded by Quran to adopt amicable attitude, we would just develop a terrible stereotype thanks to you.

[wel_mel]

thank you amai for trying to help Muslims. we really appreciate your feelings. once we have any problem will let you know.

about you Whisper. thanks to you too for showing us the reason why are you here.

but pls let me say something for both of . and this is my own opinion.

you guys are not going to discover anything regarding Islam nor Christianity. becouse you are not seeking the truth with an open heart and open mind. what am reading everyday from both of you is only some Wrong informations about Islam you got them from the net(the anti islamic sites) and you have to understand that these INFO means nothing for us and will never affect on Islam.

well, why dont you both do the following:

1-ask about Islam whatever you want.(politly)

2-learn about Islam to discover the reality of this religion.NOT TO ARGUE

3-learn about Muhammad(through islamic sources) to know this man closely.

4-read the Qur'an with an open heart and open mind and ask if you dont understand.

5-inform where are you guys living so we can send you the address of the islamic centres in your areas to go there if you wish and to collect whatever you need.

6-forget about the idea of teaching us about Christianity becouse we actually have enough knowledge about it. and if we need any info about it we also know from where to get it.

hope you can follow these simple steps.. just try even for one week. and may GOD be with you all .

remember. GOD will be always with those who seeking his way.

salam

wel_mel

[amai]

you guys are not going to discover anything regarding Islam nor Christianity. becouse you are not seeking the truth with an open heart and open mind. [/quote:096e568ebe]i don't think i need to seek for the truth, because I've already found it.

i'm trying to be open-minded when studying islam. i never assumed that Quran was false without evidences or basis.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>what am reading everyday from both of you is only some Wrong informations about Islam you got them from the net(the anti islamic sites) and you have to understand that these INFO means nothing for us and will never affect on Islam. [/quote:096e568ebe]yes, i guess i have some wrong information about islam(that goes for you too, right?). some were corrected by the Muslims in this board, some weren't heeded.

those sites i've visited aren't anti-islamic sites, but objective-studying of islam sites.

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>1-ask about Islam whatever you want.(politly) [/quote:096e568ebe]i think i'm doing just that lately.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>2-learn about Islam to discover the reality of this religion.NOT TO ARGUE [/quote:096e568ebe]to discover this religion, we need to present our arguments so it may be cleared.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>3-learn about Muhammad(through islamic sources) to know this man closely. [/quote:096e568ebe]doing just that and that. why don't you visit Christian sites too?

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>4-read the Qur'an with an open heart and open mind and ask if you dont understand. [/quote:096e568ebe]and please do the same thing with the Bible. erase your assumptions of it being "corrupt".

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>6-forget about the idea of teaching us about Christianity becouse we actually have enough knowledge about it. and if we need any info about it we also know from where to get it. [/quote:096e568ebe]but it seems as if you don't. like, how can the doctrine of the Trinity be illogical?

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regarding Whisper's posts, i think he's right. he may be blunt, insulting, sarcastic and blasphemous, but he says things as it is straightforwardly.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="300" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Do you want me to show you why I consider the Qur'an to be a dud?Permit me to and I will provide factual evidence.[/quote:096e568ebe]

if you really think islam is the truth, permit him. if quran tells the truth, whatever evidence whisper presents can be easily refuted.

if you don't permit him, i can assume that you're scared of it.

he considers quran to be a dud, why not present [b:096e568ebe]facts[/b:096e568ebe] that the Bible is a dud too?

if he says 90% of scholars laugh at Quran, find out why. study it and shove to their faces that they're wrong.(if that'll be the case)

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[wel_mel]

well, i really have nothing to say after what i said before. anyway, we will be here always for answering your questions amai. and i will wait for Whisper's opinion.,'

wel_mel

[Muslimah]

Now as both parties became very clear about the objectives. Oh sorry I forgot to tell both of you that we are here all of us to learn about Islam and help each other gain more knowledge in this regard. Having non Muslim guests shall never be a bother to us provided they comply with basic manners. Basic human manners. We don't need to know the truth Whipser we praise be to Allah already know it. It is very obvious we have a conflict of objectives and interests. Plus and most importantly you are certainly wasting your time here. Rest assured that no one is listening to you. And tiring your fingers typing this garble will only wear you out.

praise be to Allah we are very satisfied with how we are. And Insh a Allah we will be looking at you in the Day After.