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09-25-2004, 07:55 PM
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True Deen very true Alhamdulelah we did our best. However I still have a different viewpoint Deen about JD in particular and a number of other members here who infuse provocation. I see them terribly insecure and terrified to admit they found the truth. The more they come close to this conclusion the more they grow aggressive. U know no one likes to be reminded of being wrong specially in regard to a fundamental issue such as religion.
May Allah accept our deeds, and bring light into our and their hearts
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Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
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Quote:Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
You next hopefully ![[Image: rolleyes.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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Quote:Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
The only disgrace I can describe is when one who is living on <b>Allah's</b> land, Under <b>His</b> Shade, eating <b>His</b> food, drinking <b>His</b> water, breathing from <b>His</b> air, dressing and enjoying life in all its aspects from materials <b>He</b> created, <b>He</b> the reason u r living and existing, <b>Him being Merciful</b> with u and giving u chances to repent, <b>Him being Generous</b> and opening for u doors of Knowledge, and still u r <b> SO UNGRATEFUL
</b> denying <b>His Existance</b>, when are u going to wake up and admit the truth Hazams, we might not be perfect, we might not have conveyed the right idea to your brains , well we are not perfect, we are still learning and we will keep on learning till the day we die, so our ignorance has nothing to do with u denying God's existance. <b>WAKE UP</b> before it is too late.
Peace
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Quote:<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hazams" data-cite="Hazams" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1919" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
The only disgrace I can describe is when one who is living on <b>Allah's</b> land, Under <b>His</b> Shade, eating <b>His</b> food, drinking <b>His</b> water, breathing from <b>His</b> air, dressing and enjoying life in all its aspects from materials <b>He</b> created, <b>He</b> the reason u r living and existing, <b>Him being Merciful</b> with u and giving u chances to repent, <b>Him being Generous</b> and opening for u doors of Knowledge, and still u r <b> SO UNGRATEFUL
</b> denying <b>His Existance</b>
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Radiyah if there was a smilie face that was clapping, i would put it here. There isn't, so instead i'll use this one ![[Image: smile.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/smile.gif) and say i cannot echo what you said above enough. So true.
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Alsalam alaykom brother,
Yes Any really i feel so sad for such people, how can they be so ungrateful ![[Image: sad.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
waslam.
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Quote: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hazams" data-cite="Hazams" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1919" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
You next hopefully
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HAHAHAHAHAHA ![[Image: laugh.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) ![[Image: biggrin.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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Quote: <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="radiyah" data-cite="radiyah" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1919" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>
<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hazams" data-cite="Hazams" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1919" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is JD banned? You people are an absolute disgrace.
The only disgrace I can describe is when one who is living on <b>Allah's</b> land, Under <b>His</b> Shade, eating <b>His</b> food, drinking <b>His</b> water, breathing from <b>His</b> air, dressing and enjoying life in all its aspects from materials <b>He</b> created, <b>He</b> the reason u r living and existing, <b>Him being Merciful</b> with u and giving u chances to repent, <b>Him being Generous</b> and opening for u doors of Knowledge, and still u r <b> SO UNGRATEFUL
</b> denying <b>His Existance</b>
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Radiyah if there was a smilie face that was clapping, i would put it here. There isn't, so instead i'll use this one and say i cannot echo what you said above enough. So true.
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May Allah SWT bless you Radiyah and the rest of this noble ummah.
You are 100% correct!
Allah SWT is so merciful he even provides for his enemies who deny his existance.
Also, we may have tried portraying the truth here and the results/outcome are out of our control as they are in the hands of Allah SWT.
The non-muslims do not need us muslims to tell or prove Allah's existance as Allah SWT has given every human being the faculty of thought, something which makes us humans disctinct from animals.
Everyone asks themselves the fundamental questions in life:- where was I before life, what am I doing here and where am I going after this life.
We use the reality we sense (which is all limited i.e. has a beginning and an end)via our senses given to us from Allah SWT to come to the conclusion that everything has to be created and something cannot come from nothing.
As for the comprehension of Allah SWT, this is impossible as the human mind is limited and the limited cannot comprehend the unlimited!! We can only come to conclusion that a creator exists, not what he looks like etc.
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Quote:May Allah SWT bless you Radiyah and the rest of this noble ummah.
You are 100% correct!
Allah SWT is so merciful he even provides for his enemies who deny his existance.
Also, we may have tried portraying the truth here and the results/outcome are out of our control as they are in the hands of Allah SWT.
The non-muslims do not need us muslims to tell or prove Allah's existance as Allah SWT has given every human being the faculty of thought, something which makes us humans disctinct from animals.
Everyone asks themselves the fundamental questions in life:- where was I before life, what am I doing here and where am I going after this life.
We use the reality we sense (which is all limited i.e. has a beginning and an end)via our senses given to us from Allah SWT to come to the conclusion that everything has to be created and something cannot come from nothing.
As for the comprehension of Allah SWT, this is impossible as the human mind is limited and the limited cannot comprehend the unlimited!! We can only come to conclusion that a creator exists, not what he looks like etc.
Ahh so well put, i'm reading on the very thing you mention now with the sense, right at this very point which explains so clearly gods world. Here's something i'm reading at a website which your post reminded me of...
<i>"Throughout his life, a human being assumes that he is living in a world which is external to his body. However, everything referred to as the world is only our brain's interpretation of the signals which reach the sense centers. In other words, we can never deal with any world other than the one that occurs in our mind. We can never know what happens or exists outside us. We cannot claim that the sources of signals reaching the brain are material existences that exist outside. This reality has begun to take its place in science books and is taught to people since high school age. The problem is that people do not consider the full significance of this fact. The Prophet Muhammad said that "people are asleep and wake up when they die." This is to say that the objects seen in the world when alive are similar to those seen when asleep while dreaming, meaning that they exist in the imagination.16 They will say, "Alas for us! Who has raised us from our sleeping-place? This is what the All-Merciful promised us. The Messengers were telling the truth." (The Koran, 36:52)"</i>
Yet, despite having the proof in front of the eyes of their very soul...they still do not belive. I know how that feels, i was the same, luckily Allah guided me to the sources only he knew i'd pay attention to in my stubborness...then i awoke. Once you begin to read Quran it all becomes so clear. I still feel there must be some way of letting people know, the thought of non belivers wanting another chance once it's too late is not a nice one. I thank Allah i was shown, only a creator that loves its creations would provide for us such as this i.e the world, and give us the power thought to investigate like you said Deen. There's still a lot of people out there that need the guidance Allah gave me, i hope they accept it when Allah offers.
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Assalamu aleikum brothers and sisters,
Brother Anyabwile, it makes me so HAPPY to read your posts, you have GROWN so MUCH in FAITH, mashaAllah. I was a bit worried about you, NOW inshaAllah I know you will only continue to learn more and be stronger.
Like we all will do, inshaAllah with the help of the best Guide there is. And by helping and sharing with each other here on the forum.
Wasalam
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