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09-03-2004, 04:11 PM
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Quote:My goodness, I will need to print this out before you edit it ! ![[Image: tongue.gif]](http://www.islamsms.com/bb/html/emoticons/tongue.gif)
hehe, is it that unbelieveable??
Quote:Right now, it has an occupying force, right ?
Yes it does, but out of the 12000 coalition, 9000 are in the streets of Kabul and I dont think the rest 3000 could capture the rest of Afghanistan.
Quote:And as always, a qualifier.
I didnt quite understand.
Quote:Oh it appears in the jewish run media all the time.
Yup, it appears in the media, but it appears as US "claims" Iran has it, never saying Iran said it had it, Sounds Familiar?
Quote:I really don't know but I suspect that the Iranian despotic rulers are a bit difficult to reason with.
Yes the Islamists are always harder to reason with, when you have North Korea that killed so many people and fought a war against the US and wants to dominate South Korea, Its always the muslims that are harder to reason with, just dont complain when California lays into a radio active waste land.
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Quote:From what I have seen, the official line the mad mullahs have is that they have the right to nuclear arms and are looking to procure it. Next time I find something, I will post on another thread.
Hope it will be soon.
Quote:Harder ? I would say impossible.
HAR HAR HAR (in a very sarcastic manner)
Quote:I don't think it will come to that, at least I hope not anyway. Even I might pray to avoid that !
You don't have to think, it will come when North Korea will be in range of America, give it a few years.
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Quote:So you do believe that they are trying to procure nuclear weapons then ?
No just waiting till you support your words, just hoping it will be soon, not after years when there are nuclear wastes in Iran by the uranium depleted rounds used in its future war.
Quote:Then you will not be surprised if there is a pre-emptive strike on N.Korea
I would be suprised, America to stand up against a nation with a powerful military.
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Quote:Does the same priciple apply to Islam that there is no "moderate" Islam, just Islam ?
Salaam Alaikum!
If I were an employee at Burger King, I would blithely respond..."have it your way!"
--Ibn
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This posting is probably the most interesting posting yet. I say this because of the positing itself and the opinions posted in response to it.
The postings by Muslims in their responses reminded me of conversations that go in America over whether we should have invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, or done nothing at all.
Some people say "what about the Iraqi people being killed by the Americans or what the Jews are doing"? as a response to the beheading. That same response is given in America when someone protest the war they say "what about 9/11 or these freaks cutting off innocent people's heads"?
It doesn't seem to matter if your an American an Iraqi, Christian or Muslim there are people everywhere who will justify an act because of another act. This beheading is ok because of the Iraqis that were killed. Well then any Muslims killed in Iraqi is ok because some Muslims killed 3,000 Americans in New York. This train of thought is just a vicious cycle.
I'm glad to see some people who don't think beheading an innocent person is the right thing. I'm glad no one will ever site a verse from the Christian bible saying that torturing innocent people is part of our calling from God. Actually its quite the opposite. Love thy neighbor is a higher level of thinking. There's a reason they say to forgive is divine. It's because its so hard to do. It's a lot easier, and much more human, to get angry and seek vengance.
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I agree with Magadeth. To forgive is divine. Jesus's command of turning the other cheek for your enemy to strike is the right remedy. Violence begets violence. But love conquers all hatred. Love your enemies as much as you love yourself. Love conquers all mistakes.
DO NOT underestimate the POWER OF GOD's LOVE!
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Quote: I agree with Magadeth. To forgive is divine. Jesus's command of turning the other cheek for your enemy to strike is the right remedy. Violence begets violence. But love conquers all hatred. Love your enemies as much as you love yourself. Love conquers all mistakes.
DO NOT underestimate the POWER OF GOD's LOVE!
I hope u keep in mind this is an Islamic board, so we are not calling for Jesus teachings. We abide by the Quran.
What we have been trying to say on this issue many times, is that no one can really confirm that Muslims are doing these acts, as many incidents were proven fabricated.
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Bismillah
"Violence begets violence."
I guess that means that Jesus would never speak of violence but only peace, right? But wait a minute...
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division." Luke 12:51
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Luke 19:27
I guess he means love them to death maybe?
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10-01-2004, 05:31 PM
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Quote:I hope u keep in mind this is an Islamic board, so we are not calling for Jesus teachings. We abide by the Quran.
What we have been trying to say on this issue many times, is that no one can really confirm that Muslims are doing these acts, as many incidents were proven fabricated
What's wrong Muslimah? A little free speech and opposing views starting to scare you that someone will sway from Islam?
If you honestly believe that people who call themselves Muslims aren't the ones beheading these hostages you're ...... I'm sorry, but there's no other way to say it.
Just because they consider themselves Muslims and do evil doesn't mean every Muslim feels that way. There are people who call themselves Christians that do wrong, but the fact that they call themselves Christians isn't going to make me think someone else is behind what they do.
Let's call a spade a spade.
Quote:Bismillah
"Violence begets violence."
I guess that means that Jesus would never speak of violence but only peace, right? But wait a minute...
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division." Luke 12:51
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Luke 19:27
I guess he means love them to death maybe?
No, he doesn't mean that, but Muslimah said he doesn't want us talking Christianity on this board so I'll respect that request and leave it at that.
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10-01-2004, 08:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2004, 08:41 PM by radiyah.)
Peace
Mega, i edited your post and remember u r talking to an adminstrator, so u better watch your language, even u said u were sorry, there are many other polite ways to say what u said, and what she said is correct this is an islamic board, if we go to christians board and preach islam there we will have everybody swearing on us and attacking Allah who is God himself as well as Prophet Muhammad(PBUH), and then end up being thrown out. I've been to a few what I saw there has nothing of free speech about Islam without being mocked at or sworn at, and u think that u want to do the same here. We said many times this is a teaching board about Islam, but then we end up being attacked and then politics comes along the way. If u r willing to learn about true Islam u r welcome, u r not convinced or u do not like it here then u can leave, so simple. And I advice u to reread the rules and regulations of the board.
Peace
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