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Is This The Truth?
#21

Hi Ali,


Your definition of God is that he is unable to forgive sins unless he sacrifices his innocent son. That is your choice.


The definition of Allah, SWT, in Islam is that He is able to forgive His repentant servants only by willing so, without sacrifice.


This article is readable on the web-site Jews for Allah, by former Jews that has read and followed the Bible, but that has returned to the religion of Allah by embracing Islam. Just read and reflect and consider.


''Who Saves ?


Dear Brothers and Sisters,


Some Christians have told me that Jesus has turned their life around, in that they were once lost, now they are found. In that they were drunkards, drug users, abusers, and that Jesus has made them change their wicked ways.


That is Wonderful, this is similar to Prophet Muhammad ending the evil practices of burying newborn girls alive besides other vices for many from the past to the present.


For the Christians who Strive to be like Christ and try to live a righteous life, that is great. Though there is another group of Christians, the _kind_ who use Jesus as a scapegoat, an excuse to do evil. The Christians who *assume* Jesus bore all of their sins and that they are free to sin [indiscriminately].


Those Christians have obviously not reflected upon Scripture. Jesus himself repeatedly states that we are accountable for our own actions.


Then there are the third type of Christians, the Christians who know Jesus, though their impulses to be unrighteous are too strong, and they submit to the temptations to drink alcohol, use drugs, and commit adultery, and even worse.


For everyone who is confused about the Trinity and who want to achieve a higher level of Spirituality, this is an invitation for you to know Allah , who is Allah ?


In Aramayic, the original language of Christ, Jesus called God "Alayho"


Moses in Hebrew called God "Elih"


Muhammad in Arabic called God "Allah"


Allah is the God of Abraham, our Creator, our Resurrector.


Allah is the Arabic name for God as in the Christian Arabic Bible, verses (Genesis 1:1 , John 3:16 , Luke 1:30 , Luke 3:38 , Matthew 19:17 .....) , the name "Allah" is used to mean God.


I am not asking you to switch Gods , I am asking you to know our God more , Love our God more , Respect our God more .


Not split and fractionalize our God up into three , or make various contradictory statues of God.


Allah can give you the added strength and the Faith you need to be on the Right Path, how do you know Allah ? We know, hear and reflect on Allah through the Holy Quran and through prayers.


"And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah". Say: " Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth"? Glorified and Exalted is He above all that which they associate as partners with Him." (Holy Quran 10:18)


In my experiences, Allah is Greater in saving us from the addictions of this world, and helps to heal the past wounds, Through giving us additional Hope and Faith, if you love Jesus, that is great, you can continue to Love Jesus, but worship the Creator of Jesus, Allah .


Allah gives us bountiful knowledge and spiritual guidance in the Holy Quran, the Final Testament.


In the Quran, you can know God directly without any intercessors or middle men filtering from you the power, strength and connection with God.


God loves you, God is the most forgiving and most merciful. Christianity claims God did not forgive the actions of Adam for millenniums , while Islam teaches Adam was forgiven the same moment Adam repented, and that death is a natural cycle , not a prolonged curse from our Loving God .


Believe in a Loving God of Abraham , one who does not need blood to forgive , one who Judges each individual fairly.


Believe our God is All Powerful , who sees and knows all of our Actions.


The tithing taking Church has conceived the notion that Jesus is the only Savior, but Jesus himself, the Servant of Allah, displayed with his words and actions for those who seek knowledge, that he was a sign from the true Savior, Allah.


Jesus *warns* of entire nations falling into Hell (Mt 23:33-36), Allah *saves* entire nations from Hell. (Holy Qur'an 12:110)


Allah Protects His apostles,


"So Allah protected him from the evil (consequences) of what they planned" (Holy Koran 40:45)


" So naught was the answer of (Abraham's) people except that they said: "Slay him or burn him." But Allah did save him from the Fire. Verily in this are Signs for people who believe." (Holy Koran 29:24)


Jesus gives No protection to his apostles; Jesus afraid people may discover him says;


"He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. And he straightly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing." (Luke 9:20 and 21)


Jesus, to even further clarify for us that he is not our Savior, infront of the crowd, asked Allah to Save him


"And he [Jesus] said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible to thee; remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou wilt." ("Mark 14:36)


Jesus asked our Creator to be his Savior from death, symbolized as "this cup" in Mark 14, undisputedly revealing that Jesus can not be our Savior if he himself prayed for a Savior.


even Jesus's disciples knew Jesus does not protect or save, when mere men (soldiers) arrested Jesus, the disciples decided to abandon Jesus and not seek protection in Jesus;


" Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled." (Matthew 26:56)


While Prophet Muhammad (descendant of Prophet Abraham) knows Allah saves;


Muhammad was sitting under a tree when a pagan with a sword approached him to kill him, the pagan asked 'who will protect you', Muhammad replied "Allah", at this moment, the pagan lunged forward at Prophet Muhammad tripped on a stump and dropped the sword which Muhammad picked up and gave it back to the pagan and asked the pagan, "who would have protected you", the pagan replied 'no, one', from that day on, the pagan became a Muslim and one of Prophet Muhammad's closest companions. (Volume 5, Book 59, Number 460: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah)


To Save is also to preserve , the God of Abraham has preserved the final and completed message to us , the Holy Quran . The Holy Quran has been kept the same word for word for 1,400 years , while each month a different Bible is produced .


Finally we come to Salvation in the After life, above we have addressed Salvation on earth, now we will focus on who will save us in the next world.


Whether or not you agree that Allah is our Savior, this will perhaps explain why we Muslims take Allah as our Savior rather than Jesus, so at the very least you understand the thinking behind the actions of the second largest religion in the world and the fastest growing religion in the world "Islam"


One reason we believe Allah is our Savior and not Jesus, is because Jesus throughout the entire New Testament , never stated "I am your savior" or "I will save you from Hell". While on the other hand, Allah throughout the Old Testament and the Final Testament (The Holy Quran), stated we will be saved from Hell through the Grace of Allah.


In fact, Jesus even denied being our Savior;


NEW TESTAMENT


" Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter


the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father


who is in heaven . " Matthew 7:21


"And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." [Mr 10:18]


" I have come to cast a fire on the earth; and what will I


if already it has been kindled? " Luke 12:49


If Jesus was our Savior, then at the very least, Jesus would know when the day of resurrection was, yet Jesus plainly denies this;


"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in


heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." [Mr 13:32]


While the Creator of Jesus, the God of Abraham in the Old Testament and the Quran offers us absolute Salvation:


OLD TESTAMENT


"For I am the Lord, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your SAVIOR....It is I, the Lord; there is NO SAVIOR BUT ME..." (Old Testament Isaiah 43:3 &11)


"You shall know that I, the Lord am your SAVIOR, your REDEEMER, the mighty one of Jacob." (Old Testament Isaiah 60:16)


FINAL TESTAMENT (HOLY QURAN)


"But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation: no evil shall touch them, nor shall they grieve." (Holy Quran 39:61)


"For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation" (Holy Quran 85:11)


"As for those who repent, reform, and proclaim, I redeem them. I am the Redeemer, Most Merciful." (Holy Quran 2:160.15)


Now you have Allah who states He will save you, and you have Jesus who states he will not save you, who would you take as a Savior ?


Allah Saves, through my daily reading and searching through the Gospel, not once have I found a verse where Jesus states he will save us from the Fire, while it is abundant in the Holy Quran that Allah has the Power to save us from Hell:


"And hold fast, All together, by the Rope Which Allah (stretches out For you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, Ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the Pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided." {Translation of the Holy Qur'an 3:103}


This is one of the reasons that Muslims declare Allah is our Savior, study Islam with an open mind and heart, learn what Allah can do for your soul.


"They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah." (Holy Quran 2:135).


Peace and Blessings,


Your brother in Islam: Mohamed''

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#22

maybe if you post here and speak what you think is truth


the real truth shall cover you.


i am only trying to save my muslim brothers from hell.


please read what my book says about the devil and compare him to a terrorist today.


The Bible indicates that pride was the element that led Lucifer to rebel against God


( Isaiah 14:12-14 ; Ezekiel 28:12-19 ).


His pride led him to an act of utter foolishness -- the rejection of God's authority and priority as Creator.


Satan continues his hopeless rebellion today -- hating God and everything that honors Him ( John 8:42-44 ).


Satan is like a terrorist who hates his enemy with such passion,


that he is willing to sacrifice his own life to kill him.


Perhaps the satanic mind has become so warped and twisted that it is no longer capable of objectivity.


The "father of lies" may have become the victim of his own delusions.


Even though the Scriptures tell us little about Satan’s origin,


they tell us that he is a fallen angel of considerable power.


One of the most familiar passages is Ephesians 6:12 :


For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,


against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.


Jesus called Satan the "ruler of this world" ( John 12:31 ),


and Jude tells us that he is so powerful,


that even Michael the archangel lacked the power to rebuke him ( Jude 1:9 ).


Paul called him the "god of this age" in 2 Corinthians 4:4 .


He also portrayed him ( Ephesians 6:12 ) as the head of a great,


highly organized "army" of evil spirit beings.


He is a cunning liar, capable of seducing Adam and Eve,


and disguising himself as an "angel of light" ( 2 Corinthians 11:14 ).


While Satan is portrayed in the Bible as powerful, dangerous, and an adversary to be respected,


he shouldn’t be considered in any way equal to God.


He is a creature, with creaturely limitations.


His power is nothing in comparison with that of the sovereign God.


And according to James 4:7 ,


because of the power God gives to His children,


if we resist the devil he will flee from us.


Although subtle and cunning, the devil is a defeated foe who continues to resist God.


furiously until the time that he will be sealed in hell forever.


Satan seeks to frustrate the will of God in our lives. He tries to keep us from what God wants us to think,


what God wants us to do, and where God wants us to be.


He encourages us to worry. (1 Pet 5:7-8)


Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.


Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil,


as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:


Satan attempts to change your focus from Jesus to yourself, things and people.


One of his biggest campaigns is to defeat us through our emotions.


Emotionalism is one of the greatest distracters for keeping Christians from Bible truth.


Satan wants us to believe our emotions (what we feel)


instead of the Word of God because he knows it makes us ineffective.


In conjunction with our emotions,


another major front of Satan is in the area of negative mental attitudes such as fear,


worry, bitterness, desires for revenge, pride, guilt feelings,


lack of love, failure to forgive, hatred, etc.


These ungodly attitudes cause our thinking to come into error.


Since emotion always follows thinking,


emotional instability will always follow incorrect thinking.


That's why harboring mental strongholds is like a written invitation for Satan to have his way with us.


However, through Christ Jesus, we need not fear these strategies.


(I Jn 4:4) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them:


because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.


No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper;


and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn.


This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.(Isa 54:17)


"He that committeth sin is of the devil;


for the devil sinneth from the beginning.


For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,


that He might destroy the works of the devil." (1 John 3:8 )


"Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.


Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!


for the devil is come down unto you,


having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."


(Revelation 12:7-12

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#23

Hi Ali,


You can stop bothering about our new Muslim brother, if he follows the Sirat-al-Mustaqim and act accordingly he will be saved from the Hellfire. So you can stop worrying about him. You could though turn the saving-project the other way around and look into your own future. The one that NONE of us is going to escape. Sooner of later we will arrive there. It is now you have the opportunity to prepare for it.


If your scriptures dont tell you much about Shaytan, you can read about him in the Qur'an and be updated. Try and read the Quranic description of him.


Ali, don't worry about our brothers future, he is safe so you can start to bother about your own future - today is the best day to start. Tomorrow - who knows if it will even appear?

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#24

i worship jesus christ now


<b>I advised u to read the rules, u didnt
</b>


<b>For slandering Allah and the Messenger salla Allah a`alyhee wa sallam
</b>


<b>U r banned
</b>


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#25

Ali,


I think it is a sin to speak with illwill of your Creator, isn't it? You should calm down yourself and instead ask for His forgiveness. IF you deny Him as you say, WHO will you then rely on? IF you are Arab-speaking, you do also call God Allah, if you are not, your fellowmen that do speak Arabic call Him Allah.


I would never be so bold to tell ANYONE that they will end up in Hellfire, since that knowledge is not given to us, it is only Allah, SWT, that knows who will stay there. But we have been given the critera how to AVOID it. You can read about it in the Qur'an.


Wish you luck

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#26
Man, a Jesus freak...nothing more that a despise than one of those...well...islamic fanatics are just as bad, if not worse.
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#27



Quote:i worship jesus christ now mohammed is a false prophet and i totally deny him and allah

Your Loss. You have been given free will to do whatever you want, but don’t be surprised where that might lead you to. I just hope that you'll have the same courage and strongness you have feel now the day you have to answer your lord.


Do you have some superior intelligence? I am sickened by YOUR dishonesty, accusations and propaganda without proof! Why do you insult the prophet? What did he do to you? You choose to be a Christian and you think Jesus is your Saviour, go ahead and believe that, that’s a choice that is entirely up to you, you don’t need to come up in here and insult our prophet in front of us. Look at you for a second; do you even know what Abdullah means? It means the slave of Allah and here you come ridiculing/insulting/slandering the man whom ALLAH choose to be a prophet? And you also call yourself the slave of Allah? Get off your high horse! I think you have earned yourself to be banned permanently!




Quote:JUST LOOK AT WHAT YOUR RELIGION IS DOING TODAY MY FRIEND ON THE NEWS BLOWING UP CHILDREN IN THE NAME OF ALLAH.you lot belong with bin laden and his crew.
islam is a religion of hate lies and murder thats why you took my link down

Our religion? Get your priorities straight before you start passing judgements. You and your link are both full of nonsense and lies, so why don’t you come back when you have something truthful to say?


If you haven’t heard it before let me tell you now, Islam does NOT encourage the targeting and killing of non-combats whatsoever, so I don’t understand why you blame Islam as though Islam teaches to kill children.


Whoever was responsible for that has totally gone against the spirit of what the true Jihad and fighting in the way of God Almighty is truly about.


At the moment I dont care Who did it, all I care about is that those hostage takers get the punishment they deserve in this life and the next insha'Allah for injuring and killing innocent children.


In a hadeeth <b>"The Prophet Muhammad</b> said, <b>'Do not kill women or children or non-combatants</b>


It is completely HARAM to deliberately target civilians, let alone innocent children. No Muslim should have any doubt or dispute about this issue. I greatly fear the wrath of Allah against those who kept those innocent children as hostages. In all the battles that the prophet and his companions fought, they never ever targeted women and children and elderly people.


<b>To our new Brother in islam</b>


I have nothing more to add, other then to advice you to take the advice of Dan and Umm Zachariah. Another advice is to make up a schedule for yourself and put away times solely for reading the Quran. One of the best times to do this is right after Fajr, that way you'll wake up for fajr prayer and also have time to read. As It clears your mind and you focus a lot better.


Everything has a beginning, start reading the quraan and slowly apply it to your life, and then slowly try to understand the sunnah of the prophet (ASW). The prophet said a muslim is a miror for another muslim, please if you haven't already go to the nearest mosque near by and meet some of your brothers in Islam. They'll be there for you through everything. Umm Zachariah has pretty much said this but I thought to repeat it since it's so important, sorry [Image: smile.gif]


Also, for any other questions that you might have, I know that the brothers and sisters here will help you the best way they can, but this site has Scholars, so if you ever need quick help and no one else is there just try to post the question and hopefully someone will answer your Call. InshaAllah.


this is the site: http://63.175.194.25/


Asalamalaykum

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#28

Sobhan Allah, they only appear when they find a new revert they are so threatened and so cheating. He was even unable to introduce himself in his reality coming under a Muslim name. At least someone like JohnDoe, Hazam or Peace dont cheat, for this I respect them.


la hawla wala qowata ila billah

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