Who Is Going To Save Her??

[Muslimah]

<b>First off jazaki Allah khairan abeer for expressing on our behalf..
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2. We are all fine Ibn how r u? i am quite puzzled guys universtiy now??? in the summe? well I am sure it works different where u all are.



<b>3. Shereen we should be happy when women simply accept their position according to Islam and not run after worldly glory just to prove to the West that Islam is open when it comes to women position. We know we have rules for us to function... We should be happy when we do abide by them.
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[Peace in Ireland]

another reason why i feel like crushing the skull of any muslim questioning the need for Jihad!!!!

Do you honestly think that Jihad would be plausable, let alone desireable? Now, I'm not just saying this because I was born in America, but think about it: If Islam declared "total war" on the U.S., can't you see that a U.S. response couldn't possibly be handled by the middle-east? The U.S. has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth a thousand times over, and they're all buried in Oregon waiting to be launched at someone. Also, it would help if you posted information as to the validity of those pictures. And perhaps those people in the cells really should be there. You can't assume something just by looking at a picture of it. Now, there most definatly is a bountifull body of evidence showing that Iraqis were detained wrongly, beaten, tortured, and killed by U.S. troops. That is deplorable. But where has fighting gotten Islam (or the U.S. for that matter) in the past? Was all of the waring beneficial to Islam? Look at most muslim countires today. If you are sick and you try a medicine, then it doesn't work, would you keep trying it over and over again with the disillusioned hope that one day it would work and you would be cured? Of course not. The same goes for war. Jihad, shan't be desireable because we all know where it will end up: where it always has.

[Feartheturtle]

Why are they going to cut her head off like your baby killer buddies? Funny, the US is the evil ones and you're the ones cutting heads off innocent people.


I used to take the side of Palestine. No longer...I don't like the things Jews do, but they're not trying to kill my family. Go Jews.

[Muslimah]

One very important point u missed Peace and i dont blame u, just like any other non Muslim. When Muslims go for Jihad, proper jihad as Allah Ordained in His Quran, they dont seek to be rescued. I mean they dont act as keen to go back home safe and sound. But they maintain an attitude as mentioned in Quran and I will just make a rough translation here, to earn either of the good conditions meaning either victory or martyrdon. So in other words what u see as a disaster which is loosing one's life is seen differently. We dont live our lives to be eternal here and enjoy. We live our life as a transit trip that Insh a Allah takes safely to the final destination.

[Muslimah]

Why are they going to cut her head off like your baby killer buddies? Funny, the US is the evil ones and you're the ones cutting heads off innocent people.
I used to take the side of Palestine. No longer...I don't like the things Jews do, but they're not trying to kill my family. Go Jews.

Hi Feartheturtle


As this is your first day on the forum I just cleaned after u, I deleted posts that u made. I didnt ban u on your first day. But u need to learn that this is an Islamic forum. No one called u in. If u like to stay just like many other non Muslims respected members who know how to talk sensibly good and well, if u coming just to act the way u r acting. Then I am afraid u will not be long here.


Again refrain from slandering Allah. Ok

[radiyah]

Alsalam 'alaykm


How are u brother Ibn, yes we really missed u, u werent around for a while , well studying in summer , well hope it wasn't tyring welcome back

Do you honestly think that Jihad would be plausable, let alone desireable? Now, I'm not just saying this because I was born in America, but think about it: If Islam declared "total war" on the U.S., can't you see that a U.S. response couldn't possibly be handled by the middle-east? The U.S. has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth a thousand times over, and they're all buried in Oregon waiting to be launched at someone.

Well Peace, if u look at it from our point of view it will be plausable, because the Jihad we are calling for is the same Jihad that was on the day of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), not like what it is now, the Jihad must be under one faithful Islamic leader and the muslims abide by the Quran and live with it, then that will be plausable, even if America had the most powerful nuclear weapon in the world, sorry to tell u it will do nothing in front of the muslim army, why?


Why did prophet Mohammad win in the battle of Bader when his army was only 1/3 in size of those of the Kuffar, why did the muslims win against the persians and romans, these two monarchies were stronger and had weapons greater than muslims, because the muslims then were true muslims, faithful and fear no1 but Allah, and they were sincere in their intentions. Praying to Allah the Almighty to aid them in every step they do, then Allah will assist them and they will win, no matter how strong or big the other oponent was.


Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem


249. Then when Talût (Saul) set out with the army, he said: "Verily! Allâh will try you by a river. So whoever drinks thereof, he is not of me, and whoever tastes it not, he is of me, except him who takes (thereof) in the hollow of his hand." Yet, they drank thereof, all, except a few of them. So when he had crossed it (the river), he and those who believed with him, they said: "We have no power this day against Jalût (Goliath) and his hosts." But those who knew with certainty that they were to meet their Lord, said: "How often a small group overcame a mighty host by Allâh's Leave?" And Allâh is with As-Sâbirin (the patient ones, etc.).



250. And when they advanced to meet Jalût (Goliath) and his forces, they invoked:<b> "Our Lord! Pour forth on us patience and make us victorious over the disbelieving people."</b>


251. So they routed them by Allâh's Leave and Dawûd (David) killed Jalût (Goliath), and Allâh gave him [Dawûd (David)] the kingdom [after the death of Talût (Saul) and Samuel] and Al­Hikmah (Prophethood), and taught him of that which He willed. And if Allâh did not check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief. But Allâh is full of Bounty to the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists).


252. These are the Verses of Allâh, We recite them to you (O Muhammad ) in truth, and surely, you are one of the Messengers (of Allâh). 2, Al-Baqara


This is the story of king Talut with what was left from the pious ones of the sons of Israel, how did they win against Goliath, by faith and asking Allah's aid.


Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem


7. And (remember) when Allâh promised you (Muslims) one of the two parties (of the enemy i.e. either the army or the caravan) that it should be yours, you wished that the one not armed (the caravan) should be yours, but Allâh willed to justify the truth by His Words and to cut off the roots of the disbelievers (i.e. in the battle of Badr).



8. That He might cause the truth to triumph and bring falsehood to nothing, even though the Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.) hate it.


9. (Remember) when you sought help of your Lord and He answered you (saying): "I will help you with a thousand of the angels each behind the other (following one another) in succession."


10. Allâh made it only as glad tidings, and that your hearts be at rest therewith. And there is no victory except from Allâh. Verily, Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.


11. (Remember) when He covered you with a slumber as a security from Him, and He caused water (rain) to descend on you from the sky, to clean you thereby and to remove from you the Rijz (whispering, evil-suggestions, etc.) of Shaitân (Satan), and to strengthen your hearts, and make your feet firm thereby.


12. <b>(Remember) when your Lord inspired the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes."</b>


8, Al-Anfal


And here in the battle of Bader these ayas explain how the Muslim army won being a few against a big strong army, The angels actually fought with the muslims, weather u beleive it or not, it is written in Quran, we beleive it because Allah Almighty said.


Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:


15. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve, in a battle-field, never turn your backs to them.



16. And whoever turns his back to them on such a day - unless it be a stratagem of war, or to retreat to a troop (of his own), - he indeed has drawn upon himself wrath from Allâh. And his abode is Hell, and worst indeed is that destination!


17. <b>You killed them not, but Allâh killed them. And you (Muhammad ) threw not when you did throw but Allâh threw, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower.</b>


18. This (is the fact) and surely, Allâh weakens the deceitful plots of the disbelievers. 8, Al-Anfal


So if muslims should fight and declare Jihad, their hearts and souls should be 100% with Allah sincere, faithfull, united. Then no1 will defeat them. Like <b>Salah Al-Deen</b>, when he threw the crusaders from Palestine, and the <b>Mamaleek</b> reigned in Egypt led by Qutuz ibn Abdullah, defeated the Genghis Khan army, and the Moguls reverted to Islam why?


http://www.islamweb.net/php/php_arabic/rea...lang=E&id=64374


Every other time some1 comes asking, how will u <b>MUSLIMS</b> defeat America, we will if Allah Almighty wills, and if we are like the early Muslims, not like now deviated from our relegion. This will not happen now, but it will happen near in the future because the Islamic awakening has started, Islam is spreading and growing all over the globe instead of all the fierce fighting and distortion from the enemies of Islam .


I am sorry for the long post, but I ask and hope from Allah that what I wrote will stop that Question. How Muslims will defeat America ?


I end with this Surrat Al-Feel


Bismillah Al-Rahman Al-Raheem:


1. Have you (O Muhammad ()) not seen how your Lord dealt with the Owners of the Elephant? [The elephant army which came from Yemen under the command of Abrahah Al-Ashram intending to destroy the Ka'bah at Makkah].



2. Did He not make their plot go astray?


3. And sent against them birds, in flocks,


4. Striking them with stones of Sijjîl.


5. And made them like an empty field of stalks (of which the corn has been eaten up by cattle).





And Allah knows best, if I am right by aid from Allah, if I am wrong is from my mistake and ignorance.


Wasalam

[Shereen]

<b>3. Shereen we should be happy when women simply accept their position according to Islam and not run after worldly glory just to prove to the West that Islam is open when it comes to women position. We know we have rules for us to function... We should be happy when we do abide by them.
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ofcourse, elhamdo lillah, we all should. Iam & will never deny that.....but if u think that the girl wearing sensible clothes & being in her restrictions IS gonig to compete in an innocent competetion, who are we to stop her?



We should rather accept the fact that some Arabian princesses go in USA or other countries & some even change their names & do every non Muslims thing !


So infront of this............taking part in Olypics is nothing

[Qutuz]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Qutuz" data-cite="Qutuz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="1817" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> another reason why i feel like crushing the skull of any muslim questioning the need for Jihad!!!!

Do you honestly think that Jihad would be plausable, let alone desireable? Now, I'm not just saying this because I was born in America, but think about it: If Islam declared "total war" on the U.S., can't you see that a U.S. response couldn't possibly be handled by the middle-east? The U.S. has enough nuclear weapons to destroy the earth a thousand times over, and they're all buried in Oregon waiting to be launched at someone. Also, it would help if you posted information as to the validity of those pictures. And perhaps those people in the cells really should be there. You can't assume something just by looking at a picture of it. Now, there most definatly is a bountifull body of evidence showing that Iraqis were detained wrongly, beaten, tortured, and killed by U.S. troops. That is deplorable. But where has fighting gotten Islam (or the U.S. for that matter) in the past? Was all of the waring beneficial to Islam? Look at most muslim countires today. If you are sick and you try a medicine, then it doesn't work, would you keep trying it over and over again with the disillusioned hope that one day it would work and you would be cured? Of course not. The same goes for war. Jihad, shan't be desireable because we all know where it will end up: where it always has.

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Jihad doesn't mean "All War"...Caliph Omar used to tell the armies as they are departing for Jihad "fear God and don't harm civillians" which simply means that our Jihad target is not the whole American people and it shouldn't be...i know Americans (personaly) who are fed up with the agression against Muslims which serve only the interests of jews..now these guys are Americans..should i rejoice when a Jihadi operation kill them with thousands of other people in America...sure not!!!


i mean Jihad against the American army in Iraq and whoever support it (triators)


as for the nuclear option i don't think so.....this land is the west Gold mine and the last thing the west want is vandalising it...its one ship...a stupid step will make us all sink together.

[Muslimah]

1 Mash a Allah jazaki Allah khairan Radiyah for this thorough explanation it is worth reading.


2. Shereen Why should we compare ( I know we r getting off topic but that is ok), to the lower level, why dont we compare to the higher one. Why would I accept passing the exam but failing a subject why dont I work to score an A. I am sure u r getting my point.


3. Qutuz just welcoming u back again and again and Ibn stay with us we do miss u...

[Ibn_Kumuna35]

I used to take the side of Palestine. No longer...I don't like the things Jews do, but they're not trying to kill my family. Go Jews.

Salaam Alaikum!


Does this make any sense ?


--Ibn