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#11

Bismillah


As Salam alaikum


I must say that I kinda disagree even though I definately understand your feelings (feel similar). The Prophet never stopped praying for people to be Guided so I think the least we can do is throw in an occassional "Let cc be Guided."


As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

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#12

Radiyah wrote:


> I think u will keep praying till the day you die CC,


> and we will never leave our religion.


During my time on the IslamMessage forum, I have witnessed two muslims who renounced their faith and announced that they are no longer Muslim. And there are perhaps other IslamMessage posters who made the same decision privately and didn't go public.


Radiyah wrote:


> Christ being killed on the cross for all humanity in order


> that this humanity can sin as much as it can


The belief that people no longer have to follow "the law", because of the death and resurrection of Jesus, is known as Antinomianism. Antinomianism is clearly condemned in the bible, for example:




Quote:What then? Are we to sin, because we are not under the law but under grace? Of course not! Romans 6:15

So I think we can conclude that you are incorrect when you claim that Christians believe they can sin all they want without suffering any consequences.


Puppet wrote:


> Lucky u din do wot yo Jesuit brotheren did to my native american


> people when u landed on this site!


I assume you likewise condemn the Arabs who invaded Africa and established Islamic dictatorships, against the wishes of the original inhabitants of the North African countries? I assume you condemn (for example) the Arab Sunni Muslims in Darfur (the Sudan) who are currently slaughtering non-Arab Sunni Muslims in the name of Allah the Compassionate, the Merciful? I assume you believe that all Arabs should be forced to leave Africa and return to Saudi Arabia where they belong?


Rock wrote:


> I will not pray for him


Interesting attitude. Let's see how it compares with the words of Jesus, as recorded in the bible:




Quote:"You have learned that they were told, 'Love your neighbour, hate your enemy.' But what I tell you is this: love your enemies and pray for your persecutors; only so you can be children of your heavenly Father, who makes his sun rise on good and bad alike, and sends the rain on the honest and the dishonest. If you love only those who love you, what reward can you expect? Surely the tax-gatherers do as much as that. And if you greet only your brothers, what is there extraordinary about that? Even the heathen do as much. There must be no limit to your goodness, as your heavenly Father's goodness knows no bounds." Matthew 5:43-48
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#13

During the Battle of Uhud, the Prophet’s incisor was broken, His lower lip was ruptured, and he had a bleeding wound on his forehead. He was constantly drying up the blood to keep it from falling upon the ground, saying, “If any of this blood falls on the ground, Divine Punishment would descend upon them [the Quraysh].”


The situation weighed on the Companions, and they implored, “Why do you not pray against them?” He replied, “I have not been sent to damn people. I have been sent as a caller and a mercy. O, God! Forgive my people for they know no better.”

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#14

Bismillah


Sobhan Allah peace and prayer be upon him.


Jazaki Allah khairan Jennifer for this reminder that came on time on the personal level.


Sorry to be off topic, but only today I was talking to myself saying how much the Messenger prayer and peace be upon him suffered and encoutered hardships which were initiated from the closest people to him, his uncles. Yet he continued to adopt a merciful and kind attitude.


May Allah Grant us all the ability to follow his footsteps we are only human.

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#15

Quote:I assume you likewise condemn the Arabs who invaded Africa and established Islamic dictatorships, against the wishes of the original inhabitants of the North African countries? I assume you condemn (for example) the Arab Sunni Muslims in Darfur (the Sudan) who are currently slaughtering non-Arab Sunni Muslims in the name of Allah the Compassionate, the Merciful? I assume you believe that all Arabs should be forced to leave Africa and return to Saudi Arabia where they belong?

Firstly Im muslim


Secondly im AFRICAN.


Yes I condemn the Arabs and those who wrongfully torture people.... Like the modern days judeo chritian armies.


Of course i do not support evil as you support the anglo goverments.


NO i dont believe Africa is for Africans , as the Jews do in a free land of palestine.


I assume you living in Canada, montral, vancouver or T-dot knows what is like to be african, just as i do to know what is like to be a white chrisitan male

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#16

Bismillah


dan,Reepi


Actually,when I say"I will not pray for CC"I did`nt mean that I did`nt want his guidance also I did`nt mean that I hate him,I never consider him or any non-muslim my enemy.


I mean that guidance is only given to those who want to know and follow the truth.


Any way, I will pray for him and for all the people to find the God guidance.


Reepi,it is not good to compare my attitude with Jesus words,He is a God prophet and I am just a human.


Quran and Muhamad`s words are full of verses push muslims to to be kind with non-muslims,if you want we can start.

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#17

Bismillah


As Salam alaikum


Did not mean any offense. I was only going by what you said. Thank you for the clarification. :)


As Salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu

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