07-27-2004, 04:19 PM
Salaamun Lightuponlight
<b>***No, there is no such thing as a 'sunna' of Muhammad. Whoever wishes to accord Muhammad a sunna, then, they must open up the Reading, and produce the verse which clearly states the sunna of Muhammad. If not, then, they effectively make a liar out of The God by associating/ascribing something to Him which they cannot prove, via their OWN scripture, LOL!***</b>
I agree with you totally. What do you think of the following:
Because the vast majority of Muslims, have bought into the teachings of the ancients/their fathers, they have come to believe and accept that there is some sunnah of the Prophet to be followed and have taken a known quantity---the Messenger, and expanded it into an unknown area--a sunnah [that is what extrapolation means], which has now lead to a great deal of conjecture about exactly how to follow the Din of Allah.
Allah, according to the following ayat, only mentions two sunnahs in Al-Qur'an--The Book of Clear Proofs and Authority, the sunnah of Allah and the sunnah of the ancients.:
35:43. Istikbaran fee al-ardi wamakra alssayyi-i wala yaheequ almakru alssayyi-o illa bi-ahlihi fahal yanthuroona illa <b>sunnata al-awwaleena</b>
falan tajida <i><b>lisunnati Allahi </b></i>
tabdeelan walan tajida <b>lisunnati Allahi </b>
tahweelan
35:43 On account of their arrogance in the land and their plotting of Evil, but the plotting of Evil will hem in only the authors thereof. Now are they but looking for the <b>way the ancients</b>
were dealt with? But no change wilt thou find in <b>Allah.s way</b>
(of dealing): no turning off wilt thou find in <b>Allah's way</b>
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Allah, further says:
7:33. Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge.
Now, if there were a sunnah of the Prophet which we were required to follow, then, isn't it reasonable that, Allah, would have mentioned, along with the other two sunnahs, the sunnah of the Prophet, hence, obviating any controversy, questions/arguements of, any possible rejection of the sunnah of the Prophet? The majority of the Muslsim world emphatically states that, there is a SUNNAH OF THE PROPHET, therefore, they are required to find the ayat where Allah says, as they do/verbatim--SUNNAH OF THE PROPHET, otherwise, as you said earlier, they effectively make a liar of Allah and that will have extraordinarily severe consequences.
Their challenge is to the ayat where Allah says..."<i><b>the sunnah of the Prophet</b></i>" as He did with the..sunnah of Allah and the sunnah of the ancients. Once you do this, you would have brought your convincing proof. If you cannot do this, then, you are saying of Allah, that for which you have no authority/permission/proof.
<b>***Yes, of course, Muslims have the right to give their opinion on Al-Qur'an. Al-Quran is for ALL OF MANKIND to use as a guide to practice righteousness, gain eminence in this world, and paradise in the next life. ALL Muslims have the right to give their opinion***</b>
<b>***Yes, of course, Muslims have the right to give their opinion on Al-Qur'an. Al-Quran is for ALL OF MANKIND to use as a guide to practice righteousness, gain eminence in this world, and paradise in the next life. ALL Muslims have the right to give their opinion.***</b>
Main Entry: <b>OPINION</b>: belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge.
7:33. Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which <i><b>you have no knowledge</b></i>.
17.36 And follow not that of which you have not the knowledge; surely the hearing and the sight and the heart, all of these, shall be questioned about that.
From the definition of opinion and the above ayats, we [especially me not long ago] Muslims, have been duped into thinking we can give our opinion [less than fact/positive knowledge] about Allah, when He, empahtically, tells us not to <i><b>say anything of which we have no definite/positive knowledge of.</b></i>
What do you think about all this?