salam all
This thread is really going no where, I was not going to make more comments but for the sake of Allah:
1. To brother Ibn and I care more about u as a Muslim brother. U r saying that we always blame things on others, O yes just a full army invading a country and destroying it totally, ripping its wealth, raping women, demolishing houses and more. Or war does not include civilians. I am not sure how u can not see the point in the correct order. Just look at it properly without falling into the Islam image issue u need to beautify for non Muslims.
2. U r after an Islamic condemnation for an aggressive act:
a. We can not condemn something we are not sure it happened the way we see it, I am trying to explain to u for the last time for the sake of Allah, u can not continue judging people without evidence as they are raping the religion and all that.
b. Had this incident happened we never know their reasons I am not over looking the ayah that translates as:"Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty - We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse) whether committed openly or secretly; <b>and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). </b>This He has commanded you that you may understand." (Quran 6:151). The Ayah did not specify a Muslim or non Muslim one both are the same in this case. How can u know the circumstances behind the incident if Muslims did do it. Ibn u r not seeing it. This is no conspiracy. U know that..
c. Ibn what we should worry more about is not to divert our attention from the core of interest, if u simply use your mind for a while, such incidents take place concurrently with other severly anti Islam or Palestine related crisis. cant u see it?
d. What we should cry over really is how Muslim nation is standing still only watching news from comfortable coutches acting like Couch warriors, we must cry how till now we are not sharing our brothers and sister their struggle, the most noble struggle in the name of Allah, this would be real jiha Ibn. How till now Muslim countries failed to form an army and fight.
Ibn this is a war against a muslim country, not an individual incident to pin our mistake upon. Again it is war?? planes and missiles u know??
Hope u got the point
Spider Insh aAllah we can all think and see how we can act. Till now I am trying my best first to be a Muslim, helping to clarify points here on the web, and more in real life, so we might as well consider the points I raised earlier and Insh a Allah put them in action.
abeer Ukhti I know how u feel for Islam, but really just calm your tone, it does not help much to get all steered up, they will answer back and insult our Allah remember
<b>Hazm Sobhan Allah Praise be to Allah u r a proof of what I always say that such incidents force u people to read quran, why r u quoting Quran if u dont believe in Allah to start with........... </b>
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